Indoor and outdoor perpetual harvests with seeds and clones

well I have decided to do a grow journal this time... make something to reflect on. Doing an outdoor grow this year, have done it a few times before, but this time I am actually fertilizing, and making a lot more of an effort. They sprouted after two days about 5 days ago, and right now they are on their third/fourth set of leaves growing. I started three, got sprouts June 7th. Forbidden Treasure, Skunk #4, and Cinderella #2. I am about to do there first and only transplant. I will post some pictures after I am done. FoxFarm Ocean Forest and Light Warrior high yield growing medium mixed with dirt, sand and with a layer of pebbles at the bottom. I will be getting some CO2 canisters and will start the slow release process where the pebbles are after the plants are thirty days old.

I need help!! I just got a clone and transported it to my garden... in my car it was hot as hell and the tops brushed on my super hot car, it was cramped, and even though he told me it was watered well in the morning I suspect it wasn't, and it is hot as hell out side with a strong hot dry sun that is burning the leaves... she is not happy at all (though the other three are very content). I watered right after I got home and gave her some nutes the next day... she is in a 12'' pot... what should I do????

I got a harvested plant, and since the trim wasn't that great I let it dry completely and am using it as a mulch and part of the drainage system for the clone I just got... should I have any worry of rot? The three are still doing very well and I am almost completely sure they are all three female. i trimmed some of the fan leaves off of the clone, its hairs are starting to come out... the top two main shoots got wind and sun burned, and I don't know how thats going to turn out or what to do about it, I set up some plywood around the garden to help keep out the wind, and tommorow I am going to put some black netting over them to reduce heat, as well as install a mist system (so that the mist just goes up about 6-10 inches, enough to cool the low air. With the larger clone not doing so well I am somewhat apprehensive to transplant tommorow, dosed her with fish emulsion today and prepared the place she is going... I know the new set up would be a lot better for her, lower to the ground (less wind), roots under the ground to help keep them cool, I will mulch it and it will also have a mister set up. I will probably only turn on the misters during the hottest parts of the day... My question is whether or not I should transplant her tommorow when she is not happy?

well, since those seedlings are doing so well... I thought that I might as well start some more. Two Don Juan seeds, and one Cinderella 99, one super skunk. Im hoping to get maybe a couple o....z...'s out of each of them. I talked to someone that knows a lot about gardening, and was told that transplanting now would be just perfect, that it might make it more potent, and am getting netting almost as I write. Next set up the loop mist system, see how the transplant goes, see how the seedlings go... veggies are doing great too. The wind problem is being solved by a fifty foot by 4 foot roll of sheet plastic. should be perfect... 92 degrees in the garden today... 99-104 every where else here, so it should be a perfect 84-87 degrees once every thing is all set up. also looking at a humidity flux between 15-30%. Carbonated water will be my preferred method of giving the extra CO2 boost. I added p.h. stabilizer today, everything seems to be going well... security measures are even almost finished. I will start taking pics as soon as everything is completely set up..... like tomorrow...

Can you give me some specifics on the grow? What kind of light, what kind of nutes, pot size etc etc..

Tom

its an outdoor grow, so the light is the sun, local Cali organic nutes (the garden store is close), windy here lately, and during the summers it gets to about 110 degrees outside. I just got the set up pretty much finished (I think). The three that I originally started are in ten gallon pots, they are buried under the ground to keep the roots nice and cool (at about 65-70 degrees). I used the dried trim from a recently harvested plant as mulch to increase the humidity and help keep the surface soil cool. I set up a mist system to keep the temp down to (hopefully) around 85-90. I water with nutes every other day (1 quart water, 1tblspn earth juice 0-1-1 for flowering, 1.25 tblspns of 2-1-1 to keep em vegging good) and with 1/2 gallon plain 6.8 ph water on the in between day. I also have landscaping netting up to keep the hot dry sun from burning them (and help with darkness for flowering). I transplanted the clone that I got today, the one that has not been happy. She is about 36 inches tall topped at about 18-20 inches and branching out. After the transplant I watered with 1 tspn superthrive mixed in with 2 gallons water to relieve some of the stresses she has been under lately. Her new pot is underground as you will see in the pics tomorrow, its about 20-30 gallons, with a 12'' hole in the bottom that goes into a little aerated compartment under the pot. In the compartment is some almost finished compost, some of the trim that I used to mulch the other three, and potting soil that was all soaked in together over a bunch of broken up brick (for drainage, and the brick was covered with a plastic bag with slits in it). Around my garden I have a 3 mm thick sheet of sheet plastic to block the strong winds. I will start adding carbonated water in two or three days. I am wondering lately about the outdoor flowering cycle here. I planted them in the beginning of June, always outside... the three are about the same size 10-14" and I will probably top them the day after tomorrow. I know its late in the season, but I think with the four seeds that I planted today, that I should get something decent (at least some cuttings to move indoors for the winter). Any ways my head is spinning, time to roll one up..... what do you guys think... any posters welcome, advice welcome.... peace all...

It sounds real good dragon. You seem to have an overall plan and that is always a good idea. Good luck with the topping, it should go great though. Keep us posted, I'll be following this. Psyched for the pics too hah

Tom

ok... so here are the pics I just took... at day 18 (from sprout), and they are all looking healthy to me. If you look at the top of the larger one, you will see the tops that got windburn (I have already removed the dead leaves). But she is coming back just fine! you can see the pots that i planted the seeds in around the base of the clone. also around the base of the clone (the larger one) is dirt piled up, because I didn't fill in around the pot at all, just put the soil around the top so it will slowly seep in and help keep things cool and aerated. What do you guys think about Fox Farm soils?

so I measured.... they are all actually in between 10-12 inches. The clone is 32 inches.turned the mist system on, but I am not sure if it is shaded enough to make a difference. Any one care to guess how much I could get out of them supposing they are all females? Is that a good amount of growth for eighteen days?

the clone was flowering when I transplanted her.... I think its kind of stopped. Purple veins have shown up on her stems (though she is GDP)... she took very well to the Fox Farm, and that makes it worth it to me... against a little bit of advice, I gave her some bloom nutes today with her regular feeding (2-6-3) Earth Juice, (1-1-1) Thrive alive... didn't top today... they need a couple more sets... I will probably wait until next week to do that, until they are 16-18 inches... probably just after I give them some fish fert (2 1/2 weeks after transplant, about a 1 1/2 weeks before I think they will show undeniable proof of sex, July 14th or so. I hope some one reads this that can answer a question that I have... I kind of just want to chop off a couple of the clones lower branches to focus a bit more on the larger ones in the middle and on top, the ones that are lowest to the ground, is that a good idea? And if I do that could I turn them into clones? I am thinking about getting an indoor set up to work with as well... thinking about putting some clones in there... what do you guys think... cheap practical set up that will produce super dank stinky beautiful budddds... I can make space! Show some love and support... drop your thoughts... please.

Damn loaded your grow looks awesome!

Tom

a little too much nitrogen in my feeding yesterday... otherwise, I am not watering them today, I am curious about the effects of an irregular watering/feeding schedule. so what about those bottom branches?.. I am leaning more towards just taking some of the shoots close to the main stem off and using them as clones to let the new growth form more flower/colas.

dragon great journal so far!! Im looking foward to watching this one evolve!! Best out door setup I have seen here so far. Rep+ welcome to riu!

Yeah for real dragon I am seeing some monster pot plants in your future. Keep up the great work

Tom

They look good, nice and bushy for 18 days, no real streching. One of the plants looked a bit strange, the one with the large offshoots , amost looked like it was a plant reveging. I think you are doing good! keep it going! and the more pics the better! Remember we here at riu are pic whores!

Pic whores to say the least LOL, but for real dragon keep it coming with the pics

Tom

....well... I do get very busy....... especially lately... well here's a couple cool pics... just what I am smokin on...... damn never mind, I can't get good pics with this camera... maybe some one else can.. I will see... there we go,... did the best I could... GDP, Ramulin, White Frost + Trainwreck. Good smokes , crappy pics sorry... enjoy

I will probably post pics of the garden once every one or two weeks until they are really flowering, and then either every or every other day. How long do you think until I can determine sex?

Yeah, the clone is revegging. She is really coming back from all the stress she has had, and I think she is very happy where she is (though I need to trim a tree to give them the morning light they should be getting). She was about a week into flower when I got her, and the transport/transplant/heat has stopped that and she is vegging again (thank God she is still alive), but my question is Will this hurt the quantity and/or the quality of the herbs I get out of her? you can see the obvious difference in where her normal growth is, and where she is recovering from the injuries, I think that those spots may be better off, stronger, and maybe better structured than before. She will go back into flower right? As you can see the other three are happy as can be (the paling of the leaves is actually purposefully done, I fed a little too many nutes, then let it all dry up nice and dry (to stretch the roots), and give em a good watering when the soil is "Thirsty" so the plants drink hungrily and still pull in the extra nutes... followed by another closer light watering to somewhat flush it out and re balance the p.h. I am having trouble with getting clear close ups... sorry... peace all

I was just wondering if I should tie the bottom most branches of the clone to the ground and kind of pull them out towards the edge of the garden area to maybe pull in a higher yield. I would very much appreciate some experienced advice on this as that is something that I have never done before. Its interesting because I see most other journals getting advice even when they don't ask for it... but advice is hard to come by for me... maybe the experts think Im helpless..... sigh