increase yield with short veg

YerpGodMarley

YerpGodMarley

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Looking for the best way to increase yield with a short 6-8 weeks

scrogg, top or fim?

Strain hunting for a fovorite right now so looking for a solid way to get a decent yield with a 7 week veg
 
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In my opinion there is only one way of getting a decent yeild ,with little veg time and that is to sog the grow full the room too the brim ,with a boarded floor scaffold boards and pond liner,and just fill the space in with has many plants has possible.

Dude you will have to give the plants chance to flower 8 week min,I been strain hunting for 16 year properly,by that I mean dedicated traveling for seeds,and I'm yet to find a plant that will e done in 6 week.
 
YerpGodMarley said:
Looking for the best way to increase yield with a short 6-8 weeks

scrogg, top or fim?

Strain hunting for a fovorite right now so looking for a solid way to get a decent yield with a 7 week veg
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ok, so what I am curious about is...you are looking to complete the cycle in 13-14 weeks? You say a 7 week veg....any plant is going to take 6 weeks minimum to finish flowering.

Anyway, to maximize crop with ScroG you need a good long veg period to create tops and train them. Topping and Fimming will increase yield. In my current grow I have topped and fimmed both of my gurlz multiple times and have done a good bit of super cropping as well.
 
YerpGodMarley said:
Looking for the best way to increase yield with a short 6-8 weeks

scrogg, top or fim?

Strain hunting for a fovorite right now so looking for a solid way to get a decent yield with a 7 week veg
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7 weeks veg is a monster veg really, topped 3 times in 6 weeks and let grow out the last 1 week of veg. Then into flower. Any strain would produce monster yields being the garden is correct. Good luck bro, sounds like exciting times!!!!
 
tyke1973 said:
In my opinion there is only one way of getting a decent yeild ,with little veg time and that is to sog the grow full the room too the brim ,with a boarded floor scaffold boards and pond liner,and just fill the space in with has many plants has possible.

Dude you will have to give the plants chance to flower 8 week min,I been strain hunting for 16 year properly,by that I mean dedicated traveling for seeds,and I'm yet to find a plant that will e done in 6 week.
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A 7 week veg is not a little veg time IMO but I guess it depends on a few factors like medium. If I let my plants go for seven weeks from cutting they would be huge. I don't train much unless needed for height and do a kind of SOG I guess if that means to many plants in a small area lol. I would assume a 7 week veg would be long enough for a scrog but never tried one so know shit.
 
Starting at first transplant to soil for me. I start veging when I start to flower and it takes 12 week veg time to fill out the net properly but to cut out a week or two is to miss out on major weight. They pack on a lot of bulk at that time. I highly recommend not flowering for any particular length of time. The plant is ready when it is ready and the trichromes will tell u. Just be patient. No point in even growing a crop if u don't let them finish honestly. I strive for 1.5g per watt always.
 
The key to getting yields is training your plants. That could be done in 7-8 weeks from seed but that depends upon methods used, wattage, and grower exp. You do not have to use a scrog net but that is how alotta peeps max out their yields. Wattage is the chief factor governing yields; if you have a 600w or equivalent that is the baseline IMO. Not to say you can't get decent pull from a 400w if done right it's just harder to get there. Hydro is always faster growth and could easily be higher yielding than soil but soil allows for a more exotic tasting product with less effort. I strive for quality over quantity because I grow only for me & mine.
One easy trick I've learned that will increase yields is to lower the amount of light they get by one hour a week or 2 before flipping to bloom. If say you veg at 18/6 from seed and the plant which you have LST-ed, supercropped, and topped several times is now getting bushy and will be ready for flowering in the coming weeks. Just lower your light hours to 17/7 and this will trigger the plant to begin stretching but the nodes will be tighter than if you went right to 12/12. This simulates the natural transition of the sun in the summertime after June 21st which promotes slow upward growth and fatter stems resulting in slightly larger flowers. You can even lower gradually by an hour every week until you get to 12/12 which maximizes this effect. I understand your goal is to get weed in the least amount of time as possible but veg time is relative to your end yield. You do not have to go 12 weeks but any training you do will slow them down a bit; finding the happy medium between an acceptable veg time and decent yields is where grower exp comes in. Don't be afraid to cut, bend, and tie them down; it's almost always for the better.
 
Idk 3 lbs per light is always a workout for your but doable from my personal experience just takes time and some TLC. I prob should t have said 12 weeks. The clones I take generally are taken a little bit before. I may not actually plant the clones for a few weeks so by most measures it would be more in the neighborhood of 8-9 weeks depending on how long the last flower took. I of course LST along with topping around 8-10 times whatever it takes.
 
Best way I know to get more with less time is to carefully time each transplanting. New seedlings will grow roots for the first couple weeks until the roots reach the inside of the pot (first pot should be a solo-type cup 8-12 oz. If your solo cup is 4 inches tall, transplant from the cup when the s'ling gets much over 5 inches tall. I use 7 inch square berry pots for the second TP. When they get 9-12 inches they go into their finishing pot @ 3 gals.

By TP'ing early and often you won't be losing weeks waiting for roots to fill out a pot that is way too big.

Good luck, BigSteve.
 
6-8 weeks i would use the LST method and clean up the bottom, Gives you less repair time in veg OR sog that shit. Imo, i consider 3-4 weeks short veg
 
Budley Doright said:
A 7 week veg is not a little veg time IMO but I guess it depends on a few factors like medium. If I let my plants go for seven weeks from cutting they would be huge. I don't train much unless needed for height and do a kind of SOG I guess if that means to many plants in a small area lol. I would assume a 7 week veg would be long enough for a scrog but never tried one so know shit.
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7 weeks from seed in just tryna get the best yield I can get with a reasonable veg. Time
 
questiondj42 said:
At what point from seed are you guys calling it vegetative growth?
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bigsteve said:
Best way I know to get more with less time is to carefully time each transplanting. New seedlings will grow roots for the first couple weeks until the roots reach the inside of the pot (first pot should be a solo-type cup 8-12 oz. If your solo cup is 4 inches tall, transplant from the cup when the s'ling gets much over 5 inches tall. I use 7 inch square berry pots for the second TP. When they get 9-12 inches they go into their finishing pot @ 3 gals.

By TP'ing early and often you won't be losing weeks waiting for roots to fill out a pot that is way too big.

Good luck, BigSteve.
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I also consider the first 2 weeks as seedling stage. All weeks thereafter until I flip are vegetative. Sometimes 6 weeks sometimes 8 depending on my training method and medicine on hand. I have gone as short as 4 weeks with 250w HID...was like my 1st grow. I still pulled almost a QP.
 
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