Income and Wealth Inequality: Crash Course Economics
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ttystikk
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Not sure if this is directly relevant, but I believe wealth inequality is nothing less than civilization's adolescent temper tantrum against the childish impulse of greed. We need to grow up as a species and simply not tolerate anyone being so profligately, abusively wasteful of resources we all depend on, no matter how cool, royal, smart, connected or anything else they are.
When some are allowed to play God with the lives of others, the end of civilization follows. It's the test. The Egyptians almost succeeded, the Romans failed, many more have failed throughout history. We are, as a species, out of time. It's now a make or break situation. We either work together to get off this rock and learn to live with each other- or we'll be doomed to throwing rocks at each other for the rest of history... which will itself be brutally short.
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What others think on the same subject;
http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/20...s-end-the-planetary-meaning-of-climate-change
When some are allowed to play God with the lives of others, the end of civilization follows. It's the test. The Egyptians almost succeeded, the Romans failed, many more have failed throughout history. We are, as a species, out of time. It's now a make or break situation. We either work together to get off this rock and learn to live with each other- or we'll be doomed to throwing rocks at each other for the rest of history... which will itself be brutally short.
EDIT;
What others think on the same subject;
http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/20...s-end-the-planetary-meaning-of-climate-change
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Padawanbater2
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If this forum is a fair representation of society at large, I'm certainly not optimistic about it
I'm not really sure how - what was it, 178 people in the other thread? - can justify having a personal fortune larger than 6 billion other's combined at everyone's expense, but I especially can't understand the viewpoint of one of those 6 billion who support it...
Padawanbater2
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What is it with conservatives, are they incapable of staying on one topic and discussing that?
You bring up economics > they shift it to climate change, you bring up the deficit > they shift it to Hillary Clinton.. You talk about Christianity > they shift it to Islam..
I guess they wouldn't be a conservative if they could though, right..
You bring up economics > they shift it to climate change, you bring up the deficit > they shift it to Hillary Clinton.. You talk about Christianity > they shift it to Islam..
I guess they wouldn't be a conservative if they could though, right..
On topic ...
Here's your hero's own words:
“The irony, of course, is few things will disrupt our lives as profoundly as climate change,” the President said. “Few things can have as negative an impact on our economy as climate change.”
OddBall1st
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So who did he write the check out to ?
Padawanbater2
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Income and wealth inequality - that's the topic, you can tell because the title of the thread says "Income and Wealth Inequality"
And of course in your little mind "income" and the "economy" are mutually exclusive?
I know it's difficult, but try and connect the dots.
It's kind of early for you to be purposely obtuse isn't it?
Padawanbater2
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The president and climate change are irrelevant to the conversation
Hiliarious --- you friggin dumb, it's about the economy. Your messiah has already set precedent. Unless you're saying you don't believe or trust him?????
Hey, it's been fun playing, but I have to go. Have a good one.
Padawanbater2
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...Bro, you weren't even on the board...
ttystikk
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Nice lil cliff notes version of the economic fundamentals of the issue.
I'm not confused. TAX THE RICH. Under no circumstances should wages or salaries be taxed at higher rates than investment capital, else the rich run away with all the money and the system collapses.
I'm also firmly with the founding fathers in that inheritance taxes are there specifically to stop money from following families through the generations, again creating aristocratic dynasties.
It's time the system works for We the People, our it won't work for the ultra rich any better than it for the rest of us very soon. They like to forget just how completely dependent they are on the rest of us for their glittering lifestyles...
Needs reworked from both sides. Removing some red tape for job creators and taxing the top earners more would be a start. I also agree that inheritance tax needs another take. Just because daddy made a killing in capitalism shouldn't automatically mean his kids get to buy a world leader wand and point it at whatever they please.
Uncle Ben
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Might wanna start preaching to folks like Advanced Shysters and the rest of the cannabis biz. Greediest and cheesiest bunch of people I've ever seen.
ricky1lung
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We all benefit if everyone can afford to live and enjoy some luxury.
Uncle Ben
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That is the biggest crock of shit I've read from you. You're not only confused, you're seriously twisted.
Inheritance tax? Look....it is not of your damn business what my parents gave to me or what I choose to give to to any one regarding an inheritance. An inheritance tax is nothing more than legalized thievery....just another tax and is not fair. It's not YOUR fuckin' money as a recipient of some asshole's re-distribution plan.
Dependent on YOU? For what? Who in the hell are you and how did you make my (self made) life "glittering? I'd tax your lazy ass using a fair tax, or flat tax. I really hope that happens with a smart conservative president. This "have not" bunch of lies and entitlement shit has gone on far too long.
You're just a spoiled, undisciplined military brat that needed a good spanking when he was young, and you've just been schooled by an elder.
....and perhaps it's time to get off the dope, get straight, and get a life.
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That's exactly right. When the economy is booming, everybody get's theirs and people feel better. Putting everybody to work at burger flipping jobs isn't the definition of a booming economy.
Uncle Ben
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Right. And what is your solution?
Working hard, investing, saving and making sound financial choices seems to work. Thousands have lifted themselves out of poverty like Dr. Ben Carson.
ttystikk
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The poverty class is a drag on society, economics is only one way they hold back a nation. The answer isn't to finish marginalizing them and criminalizing poverty itself- a 'final solution' hovering out there, unspoken, but daring anyone to question their 'charity' when throwing the poorest a meagre bone... no, it isn't working, we just tried it.
Short of exterminating people for being winos, I think it's time to grow up as a country and recognize our collective responsibility to everyone who's a part of it. NO MATTER WHO, NO MATTER WHERE, NO MATTER WHY, we as a country owe an obligation to every one of our citizens to provide for them if they cannot help themselves and to provide a hand up for those who are slipping or have fallen.
Soooooo... time to tax the rich. They have plenty and they've already made clear that they think it's ALL theirs and they needn't share if they don't feel like it.
Show me just one of those billionaires who ACTUALLY 'did it allllllll by himself' without the assistance of American infrastructure, security, business climate... and last but MOST IMPORTANT; EMPLOYEES! To suggest otherwise is the very height of narcissistic hubris. Yeah, I'm taking about Donald the Chump, but not juuuuust him- he's actually the norm in that twisted subset of society, the same 'society' that applauded when Mitt Romney talked about the forty some odd percent of all Americans who are 'freeloaders on the system' because they supposedly didn't earn as much as they cost in government benefits. You don't think The Hair is talking to you on his stump speeches, do you? Noooooo, he's talking to his ultra wealthy friends- and as many others as he can sucker to come along.
So yes, I agree that everyone benefits from the economy if everyone can participate in it. Let us bring the poor into the middle class and watch the economic ship of America right herself and sail right into new seas of prosperity for ALL.
Who pays? The ten percent who are currently over making over half of all the money, of course. Proportionately to their income and wealth. This means those in the top hundredth of one percent, those dozen richest people in America, are going to see some eyebrow raising tax bills.
This is precisely as it should be, to reflect the effort expended by EVERYONE ELSE in our nation in order to allow them the opportunity to amass that fortune to begin with.
Or... Let them continue to play our political system like their own personal pachinko game, just spending more coins that only they have if at first they don't get what they want. It's hard to see how anything good can come of that system for me, my fellows or my progeny. How about you?
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