Im done with ff, whats next?
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Dribbles
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I would never buy let alone order and wait for, designer farty-wank-ass soil no matter how good the marketing is.
My plants don't give a caterpillers cock what *brand* of soil they're in, and what's more, I like the complete control I have over my own mixes. Mixes, I'll add, that always use common, cheap, $5/bag garden potting mix.
My plants don't give a caterpillers cock what *brand* of soil they're in, and what's more, I like the complete control I have over my own mixes. Mixes, I'll add, that always use common, cheap, $5/bag garden potting mix.
Bugeye
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I've ruined a crop or two with Fox Farm nutes in earlier days because I used their feeding schedule. Did much better when I learned about ppm and mixed it at a sane level. Ultimately got sick of worrying about getting all that overpriced shit cleared from the soil for harvest so moved to all organics. Went through a learning curve on organics as well (still learning!) but in short order had plants that were far healthier and easy to finish. Should you go this direction, give yourself a good 2 months to get your dirt ingredients purchased and soil composted. Once you have your soil prepared, the grow is actually really easy. I just do an organic tea every two weeks and water the rest of the time.
Doer
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Anything but special ganja nutes will grow any plant.
R-I-P-O-F-F
But, I also belive this plant can grow in most anything....we are concern with yield.
You fail because of over watering? That is a raw guess but stats will back me up, along with my personal experiences. No? Then you are overfeeding, following their "push product" instructions.
Over watering is along the lines of DO SOMETHING, for most of us.
So, I spray RO water. I'm doing something.
If you don't make an effort to being a root ball as your first exercise, no matter what you grow in it won't work well.
We want to feed them for yield, but without that root mass they can't be feed. Roots first.
I do two transplants within the first 18 days, with clones. Start in a small cup and work up. Roots can be feed by the FF easily enough.
This is botany. This is how you raise any plant. Roots first.
So, please state the nature of your failure. Maybe it has nothing to do with the FF.
R-I-P-O-F-F
But, I also belive this plant can grow in most anything....we are concern with yield.
You fail because of over watering? That is a raw guess but stats will back me up, along with my personal experiences. No? Then you are overfeeding, following their "push product" instructions.
Over watering is along the lines of DO SOMETHING, for most of us.
So, I spray RO water. I'm doing something.If you don't make an effort to being a root ball as your first exercise, no matter what you grow in it won't work well.
We want to feed them for yield, but without that root mass they can't be feed. Roots first.
I do two transplants within the first 18 days, with clones. Start in a small cup and work up. Roots can be feed by the FF easily enough.
This is botany. This is how you raise any plant. Roots first.
So, please state the nature of your failure. Maybe it has nothing to do with the FF.
DrOctopus
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The roots are nice and white and tight I started in a six pack starter tray then to half gallon then 1.5 then five gallons I feel like I kept them in the 1.5 for a long time and the dirt got really hard and compact I hope they expand into the new bucket and that solves the slow growth it is a good chance that I am over watering because im not over feeding Ill try to let them thrive a little longer before I water and see but organics is the route I think im heading Ill do some research and studying thanks for the input
briccksquad
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damn man incredible root system you got goin thereAnything but special ganja nutes will grow any plant.
R-I-P-O-F-F
But, I also belive this plant can grow in most anything....we are concern with yield.
You fail because of over watering? That is a raw guess but stats will back me up, along with my personal experiences. No? Then you are overfeeding, following their "push product" instructions.
Over watering is along the lines of DO SOMETHING, for most of us.
If you don't make an effort to being a root ball as your first exercise, no matter what you grow in it won't work well.
We want to feed them for yield, but without that root mass they can't be feed. Roots first.
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I do two transplants within the first 18 days, with clones. Start in a small cup and work up. Roots can be feed by the FF easily enough.
This is botany. This is how you raise any plant. Roots first.
So, please state the nature of your failure. Maybe it has nothing to do with the FF.
Cobnobuler
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I dont think the FF Trio is a rip-off at all. Now maybe if you go for all those other add ons they have in that line but the basic 3 ? One sure could make worse decisions. Sure I know if you have the wherewithal to properly source and mix the correct minerals yourself you can attain the same thing much cheaper but I sure dont.
I dunno, I'm using Dyna-Gro currently but I've used the FF as well. I go lightly on the application and I think they're both fine.
And neither of these are over priced in comparison to say the AN line.
I dunno, I'm using Dyna-Gro currently but I've used the FF as well. I go lightly on the application and I think they're both fine.
And neither of these are over priced in comparison to say the AN line.
Doer
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Well, it has taken over 2 years to do something very simple, but I am a hard head tend to over-spin everything.
Thanks for the hat tip, sir.
Doer
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It is all a rip off. But, sure, if you work with any of it, first you need to know what you are doing. I have no idea about FF directly.
But, I do know if you add all the recommended goodies, you can end up with 2000 ppm for the nute concentrations.
For me to get these roots, I did NOTHING. They barely got any water, much less food.
So, one thing I struggled with, not FF, but in general was over feeding, big time. We have to start low and work up.
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