Yeah I am sorry. I am a facts guy and I read ALOT!! I have a hard time with opinions on here because half the people on here have either never grown, have killed plants (easiest thing in the world to grow) or just read a thread and stand behind it without any further research. I read alot of stuff from some of the old school guys (Cerventes, Rosenthal, Sam the Skunkman etc..) and the popular opinion is that MH is an adequate light source but if you have or can get an HPS then MH is completely inferior overall. Yes it will grow a great plant. I will even swallow my personal opinion and say maybe it is equal to or slightly better than an HPS for vegging but if you use both together you will have a wave in your growth (bad for SOG) and evn though your plants will finish slightly faster the buds will be inferior vs. HPS start to finish and there is a guy in Iceland doing a study now and he is lening towards saying that t5's are even better than MH both alone and in combinatin with HPS. I feel that if I was gonna spend money on a second light I wouldn't waste my time and money on an MH when I am certain what the results will be with 2 HPS which will be a better finished product. Isn't the finished product what we are after?