Hows my grow going

ownage al

Active Member
Here are some pics... The two biggest are around day 21 (slight overwatering problems... now nutrient probs, which should be fine soon)

They started under a few cfls, now under 400w mh...

#1




#2





The rest, the two in sprouted are about a week old? maybe less,

 

ownage al

Active Member
Hmm, well they are def. not almost dead i can tell you that for sure



Because you can just look at the new growth they have... They are just growing pretty slow.



The burned leaves are from them prolly sucking nutes out from themselves.



The other 2... are still young.


watering has been an iffy thing for me but im kinda gettin a hang of it.. Should the soil be completely dry like 2 inches down/ i have a moisture meter now so it should be okay, today i had to blast em with some 2-3-1 nutes seaweed and fish organic... which ive used 1/8th for my full spray bottle evne tohugh i know i should use a higher nitro then phos... next weeks will have that.


Should be okay


Heres a macro

 

DudeLebowski

New Member
someone please stop me if im entirely in the wrong, but you should NOT be giving them nutes this early on...they look at most 10 days old(despite the fact you say 21...[not calling you a liar, just saying they look well undermature for 21 days veg]) and burned to hell...hight temps perhaps, raise the light....
they look crispy as hell, despite new growth...


no offense intended, just advice offered.
 

longflight420

Well-Known Member
did u just transplant to those pots, and hows your watering schedule if you are feeding nutes use half of the concentration for the mix thats info someone else help me with on this site
 

ownage al

Active Member
Eh no, but see... the thing you guys really don't understand is the fact that...



early on both of the two big plants were only under a 60 watt, 300 watt equiv ~4200 lumens @ 4000k color temp and a 6500k 26w ~100 equiv bulb.

They were overwatered for a little bit, and still am getting the hang of watering and the changing of my basement to upstairs and humidity changes it makes it tough, and that i'm still new to growing.


Even though i realize i said hows my grow going... I should have said "Check out my first grow" or something like that ;)



The soil ive learned should really have more airating shit, such as some more perlite and better nutes.

I think the key is i need to let the pots dry to about 3-4 inches down in the pot, like almost completely dry... I have a thing for always wanting to keep the babies dry.



For those wondering, the plants looked bad, if not worse than when the pics were taken... its not like i nuted the hell out of them and they turned like this, They were in my Cfl chamber downstairs where they started to such there nutes from lower leaves.


It's common growing sense and now that I have realized this mistake... it's not EVER going to happen again (to be honest, indoor soil is nice... but I have confidence an aero or hydro system would fit me better as a person who likes to watch over things very carefully)


And those sytems require a basic knowledge of ability to maintain your water, nutes ect.



Thanks for looking for anyone who might stop by.


Mainly I just need some insight on the soil. I think im just going to use the water one day, off a day, then water the next day.


:blsmoke:

EDIT: Obviously there not burned... because the new growth, would be affected the most, and I know for a FACT my cfl's will not burn any of my plants... let alone raise the temps in my cfl growroom around 72-75, there all around 2-3 inches away from plants.


My 400 watt metal halide is 22" above the plants about... from bottom of bulb, and they recieve sunlight when the southern sky is clear and the sun is blaring ;)
 

ownage al

Active Member
Okay, First of all... The picture you see of all the plants under the light...


All of those red cups (other than the 1 with plant and the green plant pot) the rest were just potted...


And that is def. not my CFL room, that is where my 400w mh is hanging above them ~22 Inches... If you want to see some pic's of the cfl room, I will show you in a couple hours because to be honest, i'm still waking up.


Obviously you guy's dont need to keep telling me that same thing over and over... I just would like a little help on the watering shit.


So if i watered yesterday, and the soil about 1-2 inches is on the 3-5 "moist" level on my moisture meter stick, and if i put them way far down in my pots... the big ones, its at like 6 which is wet... 9 would be the max.


I always wanted to keep them watered... but im going to hold off til tomarrow to water them. Maybe just a little misting today.
 

Skunky_Monkey

Active Member
For 21 days old they should be much bigger than that even under the cfl lights u had on them and with the overwatering, i have some skunk special which is 21 days from seed under 6 20watt cfls and they are 10 times the size of your, maybe u should lay of the nutes for a while and let them recover, i wouldnt say they were dead yet.....
 

ownage al

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Here are some updated pics... cus it's kinda silly for you guys still to be thinking the 'new growth' looks dead... but whatever




I took some today about 10 minutes ago, and those pics were from about 12 hours ago.


And heres a picture of the room at the moment. Under P.L lighting systems.

The closet




plant #1



plant #2


plant #1 - macro




All my pics are resized from 1.8 gigs to 25% using iresize.
 

ownage al

Active Member
Yeah, to be honest... It's not a nute problem..

My last nutes were almost two whole weeeks ago!


They were purpling on the leaves, almost all of them... I blame my problems SEVERLY to overwatering.. I had a thing to just mist mist mist, or water a little bit, which was kinda dumb. I now will let them chill for a day between waterings... maybe a few mists on just the foliage.


Thanks superskunk man, I know....


They were basically sucking life from the bottom up, but now there not ;)
 

aztecline

Active Member
what i found with little ones is to water in moderation. never drench the entire soil as the root system still needs to be developed (esp if the plant is in a large pot). i water now without even checking the moisture meter. i give enough to keep it moist (moisture meter in the 5-6 region). my last seedling looked like yours. i had a slight over nute problem, and a huge overwatering problem due to the large pot i used for flushing. the plant never had the typical dark green color; in the end, i got frustrated after 3 weeks and just tossed it out. it would yellow from bottom and work its way up. since then, i started a new grow and i'm very happy with how it looks. same bagseed, and looks 100x better. no yellowing as of yet; i'm on my third week too.
 

ownage al

Active Member
Yeah, thanks aztec.


The one who doesn't have the left lower leaf... had some problems in root development and when i had to switch pots, and overwatering probs... but thats why i got those new 7 in the cups... Live and learn, I learned from the old... now i make better on the new :joint:


Its amazing to watch the leaves develop under this 400w mh...


I'm currently running lights 24/7..
 

macab24

Active Member
dude is that a ladybird one the bottom one. that cant be good. not dissing your grow or anything just dont think having bugs on plants is very good for them.
 

winstoner

Active Member
I know that you are asking about the watering situation and i say that you should water less and less often. If the plant's roots stay saturated in water all the time then the roots start to lack the ability to receive water. Many growers with similar problems start using a little hydrogen peroxide mixed in their water so that the roots can absorb more oxygen which will allow them to grow more rapidly and healthier. also people do water by misting the leaves so that would be a good idea for you to do. Lastly it also looks like a nitrogen deficiency which can be fixed by mixing i think fish emulsion or something like that with the soil if you try to water and that dosn't work that is another thing to try. good luck dude tell us how it goes
 

ownage al

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Lol.... actually lady bugs are very good for your plants, to keep away bugs ect.


But that one was murdered by me after the picture... I didn't even see him there at first, Tricky bastard!!


Yeah i realized it was a nitrogen problem a couple days ago... and since then i fed about 3 days ago an ~ 1/4th strength
 

Cheemp

Active Member
Yeah i realized it was a nitrogen problem a couple days ago... and since then i fed about 3 days ago an ~ 1/4th strength
Dude, are u using a soiless mix? If not, you shouldn`t use nutrients at this stage, I bet they are part of the problem in the first place. Just use plain, ph`d water untill the plants have at least 4 internodes, and don`t mist them to much. I don`t think watering everyday is a good idea either, let them drink up a bit in between.

Best of luck:peace:
 
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