How long should I bed for?

hey guys new grower here was wondering how long I should bed my plants for I've got them June 3 ( I had a problem with the heat in my tent a few days ago so it messed with 2 of my plants) how much bigger are they suppose to get befor I switch to flower?? Any help would be great!!

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fixed the title for you op, lol..

Zeeek420 said:

hey guys new grower here was wondering how long I should bed my plants for I've got them June 3 ( I had a problem with the heat in my tent a few days ago so it messed with 2 of my plants) how much bigger are they suppose to get befor I switch to flower?? Any help would be great!!

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i always like to wait for one of two things, if not both, before i switch to flower..
the first is alternating nodes.. as a new plants grows, it will grow it's branches evenly, one spaced directly across from the next on the main stem, but as it gets older, it will go to what is called alternating nodes, where there's a bit of space on the main stem from each new branch..
the second thing is preflowers.. once a plant is about 6 to 8 weeks or so from seed, you will start to notice preflowers, this is a good sign that the plant is sexually mature, and ready to flower..
of course you can flower before, but i've read that plants that are able to reach sexual maturity before flowering have a better chance of reaching their full potential vs. plants that were flowered before reaching sexual maturity.. made sense to me at the time, so it's a practice i try to keep..
saying all of that, you have to keep in mind that once you put a plant into flower, it can double or even triple in height from the time that you began flowering.. so, if you have any kind of height restrictions, keep this rule of thumb in mind as to when to flower..

seems like i never see you post anymore racer
i normally just bullshit these days.

racerboy71 said:

i always like to wait for one of two things, if not both, before i switch to flower..
the first is alternating nodes.. as a new plants grows, it will grow it's branches evenly, one spaced directly across from the next on the main stem, but as it gets older, it will go to what is called alternating nodes, where there's a bit of space on the main stem from each new branch..
the second thing is preflowers.. once a plant is about 6 to 8 weeks or so from seed, you will start to notice preflowers, this is a good sign that the plant is sexually mature, and ready to flower..
of course you can flower before, but i've read that plants that are able to reach sexual maturity before flowering have a better chance of reaching their full potential vs. plants that were flowered before reaching sexual maturity.. made sense to me at the time, so it's a practice i try to keep..
saying all of that, you have to keep in mind that once you put a plant into flower, it can double or even triple in height from the time that you began flowering.. so, if you have any kind of height restrictions, keep this rule of thumb in mind as to when to flower..

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not to argue, but i do disagree.. depending what you mean by potential, yields can be lackluster. but potency and flavor is the same. when flowering say 12/12 from seed it wont flower until mature.. if you harvest some and reveg for another say 2 years and take cuttings, there are no developmental changes. the bud formation is the same the individual trichs that form ....
well hee read this if you want. it wasnt aimed towards you, and i realize it has a harsh tone. perhaos some of it youve read before but i was talking about this same subject recently..hope it makes sense

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qwizokingWell-Known Member
alright my knowledge of botany and cannabis aside....remember this post?
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not necessarily your lack of understanding the production of thc and other compounds within the vesicle etc and well im sure ill get to that after your next response

that would seem to go over your head.

anecdotal evidence would ALSO suggest nothing is changing.. to expand on what has been said, i can grow a landrace sativa (love em) if i put it on 12/12 from seed it will not flower until it's "mature"

There are three physiologicaldevelopments that must occur in order for "flowering" to take place: firstly, the plant must pass from sexual immaturity into a sexually mature state (i.e. a transition towards flowering); secondly, thetransformation of the apical meristem function from a vegetative meristem into a floral meristem or inflorescence, this is all visible once you can see sex appear on the plant.. An external stimulus is then required in order to trigger the differentiation of the meristem into a flower. This stimulus will activate mitotic cell division in the meristem, particularly on its sides where new primordia are formed. This same stimulus will also cause the meristem to follow adevelopmental pattern that will lead to the floral growth..bud begins to form

ill try and keep it simple.

so now that the plant is old enough it begins to flower and form buds. this formation is the same on an 8 month old plant,

the buds off that harvest will be the same, say i like that landrace from seed and i choose to leave some foliage after harvest and reveg ie i decrease darkness below the critical night length (back to 18/6 or whatever) and veg for another 2 years. there are no developmental changes and the bud is just as good. this is known by any grower who has done 12/12 from seed to burn through stock and select mothers...,


back to my quote, thc production

thc is produced...
inside the trichomes
Geranyl pyrophosphate and a precursor to olivetolic acid react, a c12 (for pentyl) c10(for propyl)polyketide,then through cyclization yielding olivetolic acid..

then catalyzed by an enzyme to produce cannabigerolic acid along with alkylation .. The production of Thc (and propyl)thcv cbd cbdv and cbc cbcv are controlled by 3 different enzymes Thca synthase being the enzyme converting cbga to thca through an oxidative cyclization of the geranyl group on cbga(of course this is all a bit, well really simplified for y'all) geranyldiphosphate + olivetolate =cannabigerolate + diphosphate.. cannabigerolate + O(2) = Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinolate + H(2)O(2)




these precursors and enzymes can be altered slightly through environmental factors say through uv and the corresponding photoreceptor (uvr8 )
but overall this is predetermined by genetics in the seed.. age of the plant WILL NOT affect what the individual trichome is doing, they are formed on the bud which forms during flower in both cases

qwizoking said:

seems like i never see you post anymore racer
i normally just bullshit these days.





not to argue, but i do disagree.. depending what you mean by potential, yields can be lackluster. but potency and flavor is the same. when flowering say 12/12 from seed it wont flower until mature.. if you harvest some and reveg for another say 2 years and take cuttings, there are no developmental changes. the bud formation is the same the individual trichs that form ....
well hee read this if you want. it wasnt aimed towards you, and i realize it has a harsh tone. perhaos some of it youve read before but i was talking about this same subject recently..hope it makes sense

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i'm still around qwizo, i'm always lurking in the shadows, lol..

i don't usually post too much in tnt though, maybe that's why..

All these are clones.. Not seeds do clones grow much different from seeds?