Homemade Rooting Booster Formula

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    Kami Samurai

    Kami Samurai Well-Known Member

    Im looking for a DIY Rooting booster that will work for DWC [Heavy 16 Roots or GH RapidStart for example]. I have found this one but I have found contradictory things about running humic in hydroponics.

    https://www.rollitup.org/t/make-your-own-natural-pgr-veg-root-booster.875628/

    I have recipes I’ll be using with jacks hydroponic formula and all the ingredients to make 3 products are;
    magnesium sulfate, monoammonium phosphate, Monopotassium phosphate, potassium sulfate, calcium nitrate, & Dark Brown Sugar. (Terpinator, MOAB, Hammerhead.) I can post links if anyone is interested, as well as the link on using the MOAB/ Hammerhead combo for bloom boosters.

    Was going to use a sweet raw recipe but my buddy uses terpinator so I’m going to try it. Sweet raw is just cane sugar instead of dark brown and you’d drop the potassium sulfate.

    I’ll be breeding bennies (Heisenberg Tea) & using a Silicate alt. Too

    Just need a rooting booster if anyone has one worth testing I’d appreciate it.
     
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    Kami Samurai

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    Kami Samurai

    Kami Samurai Well-Known Member

    The ingredients for RapidStart are:
    Ammonium molybdate, ammonium nitrate, monopotassium phosphate and potassium nitrate.

    You can buy them all on amazon.

    Going to do the math once I find the ratio and test it out.
     
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    projectinfo

    projectinfo Well-Known Member

    Is there any specific mixing or lab equipment or fermintation process that might hinder the efficiency and shelf life or these diy products ? Just wandering .
     
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    Kami Samurai

    Kami Samurai Well-Known Member

    I’m going to have to learn if there’s a specific order I should mix these ingredients and how much of each chemical required. Some chemicals react differently to eachother.

    http://gh.growgh.com/docs/MSDS/RapidStart.pdf

    This has the information about the product. But as far as I can tell all the components of RapidStart are non-organic and can be bought in their crystal form on amazon except for the ammonium nitrate but you can get it online.
     
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    projectinfo

    projectinfo Well-Known Member

    Yeah something tells me there is a specific fermintation process.

    And even tho you have an ingredient list. It doesnt mean that they used that in crystal form.

    Im not sure on this but id say they use raw products like kelp in the ferment , rather than a concentrate crystal form.

    Do they just list the the the chemical names for the ingredients or do they just mix up some concentrates and bottle it?
     
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    Kami Samurai

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    Right it looks like it has organic components but that link says all components were synthetic.
    I can’t find a single recipe for a root booster anywhere.
     
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    projectinfo

    projectinfo Well-Known Member

    Boil some banana peels . I think.

    Or bubble Aact some kelp

    Might give you a start
     
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    Kami Samurai

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    projectinfo

    projectinfo Well-Known Member

    Make sure to post your results good and bad. Or its all for nothing
     
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    Kami Samurai

    Kami Samurai Well-Known Member

    Roger, I definitely will bud. Spread the knowledge. It should be available for people who want it. Hopefully someone who knows more about chemistry will stop by. I just returned to school to learn this stuff so it’s still all pretty new to me.
     
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    Kami Samurai

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    Further research list;
    • Nitrozyme
    • Fulvic
    • Humates
    • Cytokins
    • North Alaskan Sea Kelp (Making cytokins)
    • Different types of kelps
    • Humates
    • Fulvic Acid Fossil Fuel derived from Humic Acid
    • Diamond Nectar (Fulvic/ Leonardite source)
    • leonardite sources
    • making fulvic
    • Indole3butyric acid
    •indole acetic acid
     
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    Kami Samurai

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    This video says GH is made from;
    - Plant extracts
    - amino acids
    -purified mineral nutrients so?
    - kelp blend extract
    - the crystals
    - the amino acids would be the difficult part. Another article I read says it sources it’s leonardites from over 300 sources.
     
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    Kami Samurai

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    Kami Samurai

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    Check Product Log:
    Kelp4less.com

    IBA Test Recipes (Roots Excel & IBA Clonex):
    https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/iba-in-veg-with-uc-roots.55783/page-2

    Every time I get on this post I go down a rabbit hole of information and forget to check in here. The kelp fermentation process that I fell makes a lot of these products is particularly difficult. And seems you need a specific equipment setup.
    https://gardenculturemagazine.com/garden-inputs/nutrients/diy-seaweed-fertilizer/

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.re...make_seaweed_extract_by_cold_press_method/amp

    Looking into enzyme extraction specifically.
     
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    cincity420

    cincity420 Well-Known Member

    Just wanted to add that I was told by some old guys to use shoots off a willow tree. Apparently willow trees have some kind of hormone that induces rooting. Can't remember if they said to use the new or old shoots. Try googling willow tree rooting
     
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    Kami Samurai

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    One of the links I’ve posted went over that as well.
    I ordered several things from chemicals to kelp extracts and seaweeds.
    I have a few recipes to test out and extraction methods (fermentation, enzyme extraction etc.) it’s going to be a long journey trying to remake any effective Rooting compound
     
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    Skybound420

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    There's plenty of content on YouTube for making "Willow water". The link you shared above for MaxYield suggests that fulvic/humic acids mixed with kelp makes a great foliar spray to speed up rooting of clones. I'll experiment with that right away as my fulvic/humic/kelp blend arrives Thursday and I just happen to have a pair of cuttings dragging ass for a week now, and since I grabbed them as a redundancy, their lives will be short anyways.

    I'm very interested in your findings regarding a foliar spray with auxins. My two veg plants have also hit a lengthy stall and I would've been much better off if I were able to isolate a branch I'd want to grow quicker. I wonder if this can be used like that, to promote growth of specific branches? That would be dope. I'd be able to build out a wide canopy quicker in veg which would be more helpful for managing my bloom sites. I have 2 now, but will soon have a 3rd, so I'll need a large plant form veg every 3 weeks or so.
     
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    waxman420

    waxman420 Well-Known Member

    Aloe is organic
     
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    Kami Samurai

    Kami Samurai Well-Known Member

    From what I understand auxins promote lateral root growth so I could understand a larger root zone should help encourage plant growth. Light intensity will still win out to help plant growth though. Uncle ben’s topping Guide has specifics on moving growth hormones through plants through manipulation of the plant. Your theory still sounds solid though bud, How were the results of your spray?
     

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