Homemade oil for my vape pen

Go go n chill said:

What I call my RSO is actually QWET... I just leave it in the sub zero Everclear much longer than normal.... almost 10 minutes and I do shake it. Then I filter through coffee filters severs times... after that I evaporate it off with an electric griddle until it is goey.... it is green but that to me is WHOLE PLANT medicine. Then I take that and cut it with coconut oil...... if I have 10g of extract I add 20 ml of coconut oil.....
One drop is potent....strictly night time meds. I give people warnings.... I mix one drop into a 00 pill capsule and fill the rest with straight oil

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Interesting you mention whole plant therapy, which was my concern; losing terpines for patients being treated for specific ailments.
And I can see this will take some tweaking, as you have done.
Our market is flooded with vaping cartridges, and not just my state.
However, users have been reporting effects last only an hour; so have to wonder exactly what the corporations are using.
Only THC etc. I ever had that lasted only an hour was prematurely harvested.
TY for the additional tips.

Sunbiz1 said:

Interesting you mention whole plant therapy, which was my concern; losing terpines for patients being treated for specific ailments.
And I can see this will take some tweaking, as you have done.
Our market is flooded with vaping cartridges, and not just my state.
However, users have been reporting effects last only an hour; so have to wonder exactly what the corporations are using.
Only THC etc. I ever had that lasted only an hour was prematurely harvested.
TY for the additional tips.

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I’ll send you a private message I don’t want to muddle up this thread with another topic

Sunbiz1 said:

Interesting you mention whole plant therapy, which was my concern; losing terpines for patients being treated for specific ailments.
And I can see this will take some tweaking, as you have done.
Our market is flooded with vaping cartridges, and not just my state.
However, users have been reporting effects last only an hour; so have to wonder exactly what the corporations are using.
Only THC etc. I ever had that lasted only an hour was prematurely harvested.
TY for the additional tips.

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It’s just hitting here....

Sunbiz1 said:

However, users have been reporting effects last only an hour; so have to wonder exactly what the corporations are using.
Only THC etc. I ever had that lasted only an hour was prematurely harvested.
TY for the additional tips.

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This is my experience as well. To be fair I am a heavy smoker and a fat joint of top shelf only lasts an hour if I'm lucky. However, even so, vape pens to me are rather fleeting. About 20 min and I'm sober again. I'm talking about carts I make myself. The ones off the street don't get me high at all.

If I make my cart 50/50 dilute it gets me really stoned but still only lasts a short time. I've yet to try stronger bcz vaping isn't my fav thing either.

Heisenberg said:

This is my experience as well. To be fair I am a heavy smoker and a fat joint of top shelf only lasts an hour if I'm lucky. However, even so, vape pens to me are rather fleeting. About 20 min and I'm sober again. I'm talking about carts I make myself. The ones off the street don't get me high at all.

If I make my cart 50/50 dilute it gets me really stoned but still only lasts a short time. I've yet to try stronger bcz vaping isn't my fav thing either.

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Me too,,,, the buzz no matter how intense does not last but an hour or so... and that is perfect for me. I like to micro dose by vaping. I really enjoy MY carts. I have carts that make you race around and I have other carts that meme you quite emotional, those are the best...... better than ANY big pharmaceutical med. but man I love smoking a joint

Forget the vaping oil then, a passing fad to inhale on the bus or a baseball game imho.
Since the RSO process de-carbs, why not make capsules?.
Like the other thread I just noticed, which gave me the idea.
I've had edibles made w/kief that kicked my ass for hours, only they were much stronger than dispensary grade.
Would not the oil in high doses do the same?

Sunbiz1 said:

Forget the vaping oil then, a passing fad to inhale on the bus or a baseball game imho.
Since the RSO process de-carbs, why not make capsules?.
Like the other thread I just noticed, which gave me the idea.
I've had edibles made w/kief that kicked my ass for hours, only they were much stronger than dispensary grade.
Would not the oil in high doses do the same?

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Capsules melt and you can’t microdose with them. They are great if you need to truly medicate. But the vaping is just absolutely convenient especially when you are in a prohibition state or around people who do not care for the smell of cannabis

Go go n chill said:

Capsules melt and you can’t microdose with them. They are great if you need to truly medicate. But the vaping is just absolutely convenient especially when you are in a prohibition state or around people who do not care for the smell of cannabis

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oh homie we need to start a new thread for that. I got the capsule game on lock. I have some that have been in my fridge over a year and dont leak. You gotta use the gel caps, you cannot overfill them (it wont allow them to seal fully and they will leak), and the oils gotta be pretty cool when you put it in.

edibles are pretty much my bread and butter.

reallybigjesusfreak said:

oh homie we need to start a new thread for that. I got the capsule game on lock. I have some that have been in my fridge over a year and dont leak. You gotta use the gel caps, you cannot overfill them (it wont allow them to seal fully and they will leak), and the oils gotta be pretty cool when you put it in.

edibles are pretty much my bread and butter.

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You misunderstood me Jesus.... I use caps too but I wouldn’t leave them in my car ya know? I give them to cancer patients. I won’t take them, like I said the ones I make aren’t any fun they are way to potent and I’m not a functional person on them. But yes a different thread for that

Go go n chill said:

Capsules melt and you can’t microdose with them. They are great if you need to truly medicate. But the vaping is just absolutely convenient especially when you are in a prohibition state or around people who do not care for the smell of cannabis

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I can microdose right out of the syringes, a bit tough tough to see the measurement markings though.
Also have found a better means of producing the tincture without heating flammable liquids.
It's the shake and bake method, 2 weeks in a canning jar w/grain alcohol...shaken once daily.
Then strain, and add your glycerin.

Could you guys report your fav terps and also what you consider duds?

I haven't tried many but so far but the only ones that have seemed crap to me is a company called Liquid Nugz selling on ebay. I tried their Golden Goat and it just tastes like grass/chlorophyll.

Tried zkittles and grape ape from vapor terp. Zkittles is very nice but not as candy-like as I expected. Grape ape is tasty but a little subtle.

Then I discovered perfumers apprentice who has very reasonable prices. I tried Trainwreck, Sunset Sherbert and Sugar Punch. When I tasted trainwreck I was like wow, this is actually trainwreck. I've grown trainwreck twice and absolutely hated the flavor. I honestly just thought I got bad seeds both times because who wants weed that tastes like that? Anyway if you like it those terps are a decent recreation.

Sunset Sherbert str8 up tastes like minty pine floor cleaner, but possibly gets better at less concentration. 10% is way too much. Sugar punch is described as skunky and berry, but the flavor is just fruit punch koolade on the inhale and a generic earthy on the exhale. No skunk to be found. Still, it's very nice and when combined with zkittles it gives you a punch flavor on the inhale and a candy flavor on the exhale. Terrific.

I plan to try some samples from Mr Extractor next because his terps are supposed to be excellent when it comes to tasting like weed.

Anyway I'd appreciate some suggestions and cautions.

I use raw individual terps and much prefer that. Myrcine, Linalool, A and B pinene, etc etc.

Sunbiz1 said:

I can microdose right out of the syringes, a bit tough tough to see the measurement markings though.
Also have found a better means of producing the tincture without heating flammable liquids.
It's the shake and bake method, 2 weeks in a canning jar w/grain alcohol...shaken once daily.
Then strain, and add your glycerin.

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Glycerin?

Schmarmpit said:

Soooo sooo lonely in here.....

I just wanted to thank everyone here for their help and knowledge to get me going on these. I now have a superb product that I can't seem to make enough of. Funny, because I don't really enjoy the end product nearly as much as just the straight resin dabs, but nobody wants to buy resin and everyone and their mom wants a damn cart. Oh well, whatever!

Here is my process that has been working great for many runs now. Feel free to pick it apart or offer any suggestions as you see fit.

1. I start with resin from a press. I use 220F for ~2 mins and 160um filter bags. Easily get around 25% return. Color of end product directly relates to strain I am pressing. My mother's milk ends up a nice light shade while a hashplant ends up with a much darker shade. I find color doesn't matter too much as far as quality goes.
2. I dissolve the dabs in ethanol and set in the freezer for a few days, usually around 50mL ethanol to 14g of dabs (starting 2oz bud).
3. After winterization separates all the junk, I strain the solution through a coffee filter. (I really enjoy the smell and texture of the remaining waxes left in the filter. Maybe I'll find a use for that too. Moisturizer maybe?).
4. I re-freeze the filtered solution.
5. I then polish the solution a final time using a 0.22um syringe filter.
6. The result is then purged on a coffee warmer with flat-bottom beaker and PC fan to lift the vapors. I really like the fan on top of the beaker because it also creates a swirling movement in the oil. My coffee warmer gets up to about 200F, so the max temp of the oil hovers right around 170F (alcohol boiling temp). Starting with 50mL will usually take about 2-3 hours to purge everything out. Extra attention is definitely needed toward the end. I find my nose to be the best tell if there is any alcohol left. Take a deep huff of warm oil and you will surely know if any alcohol is in there. I like to agitate the solution a lot in this stage. I mostly just shake it up and swirl a lot. Keep whiffing the bubbles until there is absolutely no scent of alcohol. Sometimes I'll even taste a little to make sure.
7. Once it's all purged I mix in just a few drops of terpenes for flavor, but depending on strain sometimes not.
8. I let the mixture cool to room temp before filling any carts. By this point the oil is extremely thick. I have thought about using dillutents or 'thickeners' to get more mileage, but I prefer having these really potent carts that use minimal additives. People really like them. It took me many tries before I found a reputable source for legit CCELL carts. Most of the eBay knock-offs would clog and leak pretty quick, almost gave up. But the real deals work like a charm, phew! My favorite are the glass TH2 series.

I always wonder if I should be vacuum purging, but the carts smoke great and are not harsh at all using the above method. I'm not so sure a vac purge would end up with a much better product. I'd love to hear how others purge who don't have fancy equipment. I could air purge but that seems like more of a hassle to me, though I bet more terpenes would be preserved using low temp.

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I did a small test run using your recipe and came out super nice and didn't need to use any liquifier or terp additives in the carts. I started with 2x more rosin then I got back roughly after all the steps, is this normal for you? So if you start with 14g of rosin after it's all cleaned up with the ethanol/filter and the .22u filter how much oil do you end up for carts? Now I'm just waiting on some real TH2 ccells since the ones I've been using are junk. Thanks for recipe!

booms111 said:

I did a small test run using your recipe and came out super nice and didn't need to use any liquifier or terp additives in the carts. I started with 2x more rosin then I got back roughly after all the steps, is this normal for you? So if you start with 14g of rosin after it's all cleaned up with the ethanol/filter and the .22u filter how much oil do you end up for carts? Now I'm just waiting on some real TH2 ccells since the ones I've been using are junk. Thanks for recipe!

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Awesome! Yes I get roughly half back from what I put in with resin. Outs amazing how much weight in those leftovers.

I have the same result using bubble hash. I use everything under 160 microns and if I winterize 10 grams I will end up with about 5 grams oil.

reallybigjesusfreak said:

I use raw individual terps and much prefer that. Myrcine, Linalool, A and B pinene, etc etc.

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Very interesting. Would you mind elaborating on why you prefer that?

Heisenberg said:

Very interesting. Would you mind elaborating on why you prefer that?

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because i can make my own flavor profiles that generally taste better and way less chemically tasting

Go go n chill said:

Glycerin?

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After decarbing:
INGREDIENTS:

• 5 grams of pure, blonde, powdered hash or 7 grams of high-quality bud (ground by hand)
• 2-4 ounces of high proof alcohol (180 proof or higher; must be drinkable alcohol; 100 proof is the absolute minimum) — vodka is preferable, for its flavor neutrality
• 2-4 ounces of 100% USP-food grade vegetable glycerin
• 2 sterile canning jars and lids
• 1 cheesecloth

DIRECTIONS:

1. Put the marijuana into the sterile canning jar. Add alcohol until it covers marijuana by at least one-quarter inch. Place lid on the jar and shake vigorously. If the plant matter absorbs the alcohol and increases in size, add more alcohol.
2. Place the jar (still tightly closed) in a dark location for 10-14 days. At least once per day, shake it up vigorously.
3. After 10-14 days, strain the mixture through the cheesecloth, and pour it into the second sterile canning jar. Mix in your 100% USP-food grade vegetable glycerin. Put the lid on and shake vigorously for a minimum of two minutes.

If you want to remove more of the alcohol, this can be done by straining the mixture more or simply adding more vegetable glycerin to make the mixture thinner. Keep in mind, some of that alcohol will naturally evaporate.

Adding flavor to your vape juice
The key to safely adding your preferred flavor is never to use artificial coloring. It will likely change color anyway, because of the natural plant coloring, so just leave it as is so that you will not be inhaling any dangerous chemicals.

You should also avoid any store-bought flavorings because they also will contain harmful chemicals — including non-food grade propylene glycol, which you just spent so much effort keeping out of your mixture. Don’t ruin it now by adding these harmful ingredients. One big health risk of inhaling oils that have been improperly cured and vaporized is lipid pneumonia, so be very careful.

Sunbiz1 said:

After decarbing:
INGREDIENTS:

• 5 grams of pure, blonde, powdered hash or 7 grams of high-quality bud (ground by hand)
• 2-4 ounces of high proof alcohol (180 proof or higher; must be drinkable alcohol; 100 proof is the absolute minimum) — vodka is preferable, for its flavor neutrality
• 2-4 ounces of 100% USP-food grade vegetable glycerin
• 2 sterile canning jars and lids
• 1 cheesecloth

DIRECTIONS:

1. Put the marijuana into the sterile canning jar. Add alcohol until it covers marijuana by at least one-quarter inch. Place lid on the jar and shake vigorously. If the plant matter absorbs the alcohol and increases in size, add more alcohol.
2. Place the jar (still tightly closed) in a dark location for 10-14 days. At least once per day, shake it up vigorously.
3. After 10-14 days, strain the mixture through the cheesecloth, and pour it into the second sterile canning jar. Mix in your 100% USP-food grade vegetable glycerin. Put the lid on and shake vigorously for a minimum of two minutes.

If you want to remove more of the alcohol, this can be done by straining the mixture more or simply adding more vegetable glycerin to make the mixture thinner. Keep in mind, some of that alcohol will naturally evaporate.

Adding flavor to your vape juice
The key to safely adding your preferred flavor is never to use artificial coloring. It will likely change color anyway, because of the natural plant coloring, so just leave it as is so that you will not be inhaling any dangerous chemicals.

You should also avoid any store-bought flavorings because they also will contain harmful chemicals — including non-food grade propylene glycol, which you just spent so much effort keeping out of your mixture. Don’t ruin it now by adding these harmful ingredients. One big health risk of inhaling oils that have been improperly cured and vaporized is lipid pneumonia, so be very careful.

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Thx, I’m good with my recipe