Homemade oil for my vape pen

NugHeuser

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Which would be best for QWET, fresh frozen trim or dried and frozen?
My guess would be fresh, should be the same concept as live resin, a fresh plant that's extracted holds more terpenes than a dried plant.
 
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Chjoiner

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You want to look for a Quick Wash Ethanol extraction (QWET) method. skunkpharms research has a good TEK that many are following with success. I've just done a run to make into ejuice.

You want to get all your materials extremely cold--freeze everything at least 24 hours, or even better, pack everything into a small cooler with dry ice (put your herb in a ziploc, but your ethanol in a jar, and place them in the small cooler with dry ice for 2 hours or so, coffee filters or mesh strainer. i use a 25 micron extract bag). put an empty jar with lid in there too.

once everything is cold as balls, put your herb in the cold empty jar and then pour your cold ethanol over it. seal it up and give it a shake. If you're using bud, you can give it an aggressive shake, if trim it can be gentler. For dry ice, because it gets everything so cold, you can do a 20 minute wash (agitate every 2-5 minutes) without too much concern about chlorophyll and fats. For a freezer, keep it to a 3-4 minute wash with agitation every minute.

If you went with the dry ice, just strain through your strainer into a pyrex or silicon dish that is as wide and flat as you can get. cover with micron mesh, a splatter guard or a light piece of wax paper. sit it on a seedling mat with a gentle fan blowing on it. the ethanol will evaporate in 24-36 hours (if you're doing a quart to half gallon amount). scrape up your remains with a razor blade and put into your preferred blend of propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin--i've used 50:50 PG:VG successfully.

If you're going with the freezer method, you'll want to strain the mixture after the 3 minute wash into a jar and place that jar in the freezer overnight to winterize the solution. this will bind up some of the chlorophyll and fats. strain this through a coffee filter into your dish and evaporate, again with seedling mat underneath the dish, a screen to prevent dust etc. getting in there, and a small fan to help it along. scrape up the hash and mix it into your PG:VG mix.

To help the PG:VG mix dissolve the hash, you will want to put your vessel into a double boiler and stir until dissolved. After it's mostly dissolved, whip the mixture to emulsify it. I use a rotary tool with a nylon buffing disc to stir the mixture at ultrahigh speed so as to create an emulsion that won't separate in your tank.

5-7g QWET/ 30mL PG:VG is pretty good strength for me.

:peace:


Well said!
 

reallybigjesusfreak

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Yep, that's what I do.

There's other products out there besides wax liquidizer btw. Holy terps is one that comes to mind. Some people use MCT oil.

But yeah, rosin press is what I use.
Been looking into this a lot today. So, I can cut my wax with a 2:1 ratio of MCT oil? I have a lot of that on hand, didnt know I could vape it along with eating it. Really is the best of the oils.
 

rkymtnman

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Been looking into this a lot today. So, I can cut my wax with a 2:1 ratio of MCT oil? I have a lot of that on hand, didnt know I could vape it along with eating it. Really is the best of the oils.
so what do you do? do you decarb what you plan on eating and skip that step for what you plan on vaping?
 

charface

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so what do you do? do you decarb what you plan on eating and skip that step for what you plan on vaping?
I have often considered decarbing a batch vape juice just to see if it is different.
I know its not needed but thats not the point of trying it.
 

reallybigjesusfreak

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so what do you do? do you decarb what you plan on eating and skip that step for what you plan on vaping?
OH I make a lot of edibles. So I'll decarb like a quarter oz of shatter, then make a big batch of canna caps, peanut butter cups, peppermint patties, hard candy, whatever the fuck I feel like making. I dont eat it straight lol. I am just looking for something else to do with shatter. I want to cut it down to a liqued and fill my own carts, because I got a bunch of people asking me for carts.
 

rkymtnman

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OH I make a lot of edibles. So I'll decarb like a quarter oz of shatter, then make a big batch of canna caps, peanut butter cups, peppermint patties, hard candy, whatever the fuck I feel like making. I dont eat it straight lol. I am just looking for something else to do with shatter. I want to cut it down to a liqued and fill my own carts, because I got a bunch of people asking me for carts.
gotcha. i just got my refillable vape pens in the mail. gonna make a bit of qwet tomorrow and try out the wax liquidizer.
 

reallybigjesusfreak

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gotcha. i just got my refillable vape pens in the mail. gonna make a bit of qwet tomorrow and try out the wax liquidizer.
lemme know how that goes! still figuring out what I want to buy and what method I want to go. I keep hearing conflicting info on X product is great, Y product is gross, and so on. Gotta keep researching!
 

rkymtnman

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lemme know how that goes! still figuring out what I want to buy and what method I want to go. I keep hearing conflicting info on X product is great, Y product is gross, and so on. Gotta keep researching!
i'm gonna stay legal here in CO and qwet or qwiso are my 2 options since too many people have blown shit up with bho. and co2 is too expensive. wax liquidizer is made in CO so stuck with the hometown producer (for now)

i just want a vape pen to take to concerts and such but also don't want to step foot in a dispensary to buy anything either.

i should have some vape-able stuff by tues or wed i hope!
 

Chjoiner

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OH I make a lot of edibles. So I'll decarb like a quarter oz of shatter, then make a big batch of canna caps, peanut butter cups, peppermint patties, hard candy, whatever the fuck I feel like making. I dont eat it straight lol. I am just looking for something else to do with shatter. I want to cut it down to a liqued and fill my own carts, because I got a bunch of people asking me for carts.

What caps R U using?
 

reallybigjesusfreak

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MCT oil is the best for pills and getting absorbed in digestive system
I use gel caps. I like them a lot because I can leave a pack of them in my car while I'm working, and they havent leaked at all by the time I get back. and Yes I use MCT oil in my capsules and all edibles.
 

Chjoiner

Member
You want to look for a Quick Wash Ethanol extraction (QWET) method. skunkpharms research has a good TEK that many are following with success. I've just done a run to make into ejuice.

You want to get all your materials extremely cold--freeze everything at least 24 hours, or even better, pack everything into a small cooler with dry ice (put your herb in a ziploc, but your ethanol in a jar, and place them in the small cooler with dry ice for 2 hours or so, coffee filters or mesh strainer. i use a 25 micron extract bag). put an empty jar with lid in there too.

once everything is cold as balls, put your herb in the cold empty jar and then pour your cold ethanol over it. seal it up and give it a shake. If you're using bud, you can give it an aggressive shake, if trim it can be gentler. For dry ice, because it gets everything so cold, you can do a 20 minute wash (agitate every 2-5 minutes) without too much concern about chlorophyll and fats. For a freezer, keep it to a 3-4 minute wash with agitation every minute.

If you went with the dry ice, just strain through your strainer into a pyrex or silicon dish that is as wide and flat as you can get. cover with micron mesh, a splatter guard or a light piece of wax paper. sit it on a seedling mat with a gentle fan blowing on it. the ethanol will evaporate in 24-36 hours (if you're doing a quart to half gallon amount). scrape up your remains with a razor blade and put into your preferred blend of propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin--i've used 50:50 PG:VG successfully.

If you're going with the freezer method, you'll want to strain the mixture after the 3 minute wash into a jar and place that jar in the freezer overnight to winterize the solution. this will bind up some of the chlorophyll and fats. strain this through a coffee filter into your dish and evaporate, again with seedling mat underneath the dish, a screen to prevent dust etc. getting in there, and a small fan to help it along. scrape up the hash and mix it into your PG:VG mix.

To help the PG:VG mix dissolve the hash, you will want to put your vessel into a double boiler and stir until dissolved. After it's mostly dissolved, whip the mixture to emulsify it. I use a rotary tool with a nylon buffing disc to stir the mixture at ultrahigh speed so as to create an emulsion that won't separate in your tank.

5-7g QWET/ 30mL PG:VG is pretty good strength for me.

:peace:
 
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