Holder announces Roll Back in the "war on drugs" damn liberals

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Washington (CNN) -- The Justice Department will no longer pursue mandatory minimum sentences for certain low-level, nonviolent drug offenders, Attorney General Eric Holder said Monday, noting the nation is "coldly efficient in jailing criminals," but that it "cannot prosecute or incarcerate" its way to becoming safer.
"Too many Americans go to too many prisons for far too long, and for no truly good law enforcement reason," Holder told the American Bar Association's House of Delegates in San Francisco.
He questioned some assumptions about the criminal justice system's approach to the "war on drugs," saying that excessive incarceration has been an "ineffective and unsustainable" part of it.
Although he said the United States should not abandon being tough on crime, Holder embraced steps to address "shameful" racial disparities in sentencing, the budgetary strains of overpopulated prisons and policies for incarceration that punish and rehabilitate, "not merely to warehouse and forget."
Holder invoked President Barack Obama, saying the two had been talking about the issues and agreed to try to "strike a balance" that clears the way for a "pragmatic" and "commonsense" solutions to enhance public safety and the "public good."
The centerpiece of Holder's plan is to scale back prosecution for certain drug offenders -- those with no ties to large-scale organizations, gangs or cartels. He said they would no longer be charged with offenses that "impose draconian mandatory minimum sentences."
They now "will be charged with offenses for which the accompanying sentences are better suited to their individual conduct, rather than excessive prison terms more appropriate for violent criminals or drug kingpins."
The changes are effective immediately.
Lessening the use of mandatory minimums -- sentences that require a "one-size-fits-all" punishment for those convicted of federal and state crimes -- could mark the end of the tough-on-crime era that began with strict anti-drug laws in the 1970s and accelerated with mandatory minimum prison sentences and so-called three-strikes laws.
 
Yes!!

They should read something like the 10th amendment and defer to states rights like he did for gay marriage.

I heard this today on the drive home. It's seriously good news, the winds of change and all that.
 
Rand Paul has been working on reducing or eliminating mandatory minimum sentences for some time, long before Holder made his announcement. Rand Paul was the catalyst for this.
Holder jumped on the bandwagon for political reasons: Dems see RP as a probable Republican 2016 presidential nominee and they want to position the Dems to counter RP's successes . I know this is hard for you Obamaphiles to hear, life is hard that way. If you want to credit anybody for this move, credit Paul.

Never the less, this is good news because it means that backing down from this fucking moronic drug war is becoming mainstream thinking. Sanjay Gupta's recent CNN special about medical uses of cannabis is also very good news, and it will bring a tear to your eye unless you are a sociopath.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ve-on-mandatory-minimums-a-boon-to-rand-paul/


Reforming mandatory minimums is an issue that Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has been pushing (no pun intended) for a while now — including during an appearance at historically black Howard University earlier this year.


A Paul staffer said the potential 2016 presidential candidate, who has already proposed a bill giving judges more leeway in sentencing drug offenders below the mandatory minimums, will work with the Obama administration on the issue.


“This is already a bipartisan issue, led in the Senate by Sens. Paul, [Patrick] Leahy, [Mike] Lee and [Richard] Durbin,” said the staffer, granted anonymity to discuss strategy. “Senator Paul believes strongly in this issue and that we must find a solution. He is pleased to work with all who agree and want to push forward.”


The aide also said that there has been contact between Paul and the administration.

Update 1:17 p.m.: Paul has released the following statement: “I look forward to working with them to advance my bipartisan legislation, the Justice Safety Valve Act, to permanently restore justice and preserve judicial discretion in federal cases. … The Administration’s involvement in this bipartisan issue is a welcome development. Now the hard work begins to change the law to permanently address this injustice.”
 
I have seen this last night, I was wanting to hear the speech but was swamped this morning so missed it. What I have taken from the context of Holder is.

We're still coming after growers.
We're still coming after dispensaries.
We're still coming after blacks and Latinos
We're going to give get out of jail free cards for suburban rich kids that like to peddle in drugs.

for certain low-level, nonviolent drug offenders


no ties to large-scale organizations, gangs or cartels

This sounds way too much like, Blacks, Latinos, anyone that rides a motorcycle to me. I could be wrong only time will tell but I think we're being duped again. Since it's still illegal, it doesn't protect us from state, city, and county that do the most charging of small time drug offenses anyway.
 
Rand Paul has been working on reducing or eliminating mandatory minimum sentences for some time, long before Holder made his announcement. Rand Paul was the catalyst for this.
Holder jumped on the bandwagon for political reasons: Dems see RP as a probable Republican 2016 presidential nominee and they want to position the Dems to counter RP's successes . I know this is hard for you Obamaphiles to hear, life is hard that way. If you want to credit anybody for this move, credit Paul.

Never the less, this is good news because it means that backing down from this fucking moronic drug war is becoming mainstream thinking. Sanjay Gupta's recent CNN special about medical uses of cannabis is also very good news, and it will bring a tear to your eye unless you are a sociopath.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ve-on-mandatory-minimums-a-boon-to-rand-paul/


Reforming mandatory minimums is an issue that Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has been pushing (no pun intended) for a while now — including during an appearance at historically black Howard University earlier this year.


A Paul staffer said the potential 2016 presidential candidate, who has already proposed a bill giving judges more leeway in sentencing drug offenders below the mandatory minimums, will work with the Obama administration on the issue.


“This is already a bipartisan issue, led in the Senate by Sens. Paul, [Patrick] Leahy, [Mike] Lee and [Richard] Durbin,” said the staffer, granted anonymity to discuss strategy. “Senator Paul believes strongly in this issue and that we must find a solution. He is pleased to work with all who agree and want to push forward.”


The aide also said that there has been contact between Paul and the administration.

Update 1:17 p.m.: Paul has released the following statement: “I look forward to working with them to advance my bipartisan legislation, the Justice Safety Valve Act, to permanently restore justice and preserve judicial discretion in federal cases. … The Administration’s involvement in this bipartisan issue is a welcome development. Now the hard work begins to change the law to permanently address this injustice.”

not surprising that you flock like a mindless sheep to the latest racist.

your rand paul pipe dreams will go down in flames of bitter disappointment just like they did for his similarly racist daddy.
 
Population increase since 1980 30% Prison population increase since 1980 800% Nuff Said"

I don't believe this bullshit either. We have the highest rate of incarcerated population. So that must mean our country is the most wicked of all nations? If so, how can we be the world police?
 
I am actually not a fan of this. We are a nation that is supposedly all about the rule of law. I would like for this law to be changed, what I am not a fan of is the administration, by way of the AG deciding which laws to enforce and which laws not to enforce, and which laws to simply ignore. Just because this particular instance might benefit a hobby that most of us here share, it does nothing but undermine the separation of powers set up by the Constitution.
 
I am actually not a fan of this. We are a nation that is supposedly all about the rule of law. I would like for this law to be changed, what I am not a fan of is the administration, by way of the AG deciding which laws to enforce and which laws not to enforce, and which laws to simply ignore. Just because this particular instance might benefit a hobby that most of us here share, it does nothing but undermine the separation of powers set up by the Constitution.

I respect your concern, but that horse left the barn years ago.

The separation of powers? That's a nice fantasy. If the constitution was effective in protecting individual rights, there NEVER would have been a pot prohibition in the first place.

There is no real separation of powers. Most of the power resides in the INSTITUTION of government itself. Government is monolithic and wants you to think that it has "checks and balances" that will magically protect you. IT'S A LIE. Why does the DEA hold the keys to how pot is scheduled? There are any number of examples of government colluding with itself and all the supposedly separate branches uniting to deny freedom. Please consider reading some Lysander Spooner essays on the constitution. His logic is pretty tight.
 
prohibition didnt end overnight
it started with judges handing down penaltys so trivial cops stopped arresting people for prohibition laws and prosecutors stopped indicting people

But we are not in the same situation or system as they were. The money involved is so vast that many are bought off and will be for the duration of their careers. Alcohol prohibition didn't have near 80 years to dig its' claws in like marijuana prohibition has. There is some evil shit going on surrounding marijuana within our legal system, and its going to take more than a few judges handing out minimal sentencing to change it.
 
not surprising that you flock like a mindless sheep to the latest racist.

your rand paul pipe dreams will go down in flames of bitter disappointment just like they did for his similarly racist daddy.


Funny that a "racist" like Ron Paul tried to end a racist drug war and the former choom gang guy Obama has kept it going.
 
Funny that a "racist" like Ron Paul tried to end a racist drug war and the former choom gang guy Obama has kept it going.

Chesus's Ron Paul shit has deflated, all it took was someone looking into the matter. Maybe he will go back into hiding for a few months, can we be so lucky?
 
Funny that a "racist" like Ron Paul tried to end a racist drug war

doesn't change the newsletters he wrote, or white supremacists he worked with last year, or took money from over the years, or made money off of over the years by catering to their racist fears.

and the former choom gang guy Obama has kept it going.

i've got more worries about getting struck by lightning than busted for growing, statistically speaking.

name another time in recent history when we've had as many dispensaries, medical states, or legal states as we do now.
 
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