HLG Scorpion

HLG's new light isn't on their site yet, but I've found some pics and info. There are two versions, a RSpec version and a Diablo version.

Here's the RSpec version:



Specifications


Here's the Diablo version:



Specifications

Not sure why ppf efficiency isn't listed, but Steven mentioned on the GML show, it's 2.93 μmol/joule.

I bet I can't afford it.

Gorillabilly said:

I bet I can't afford it.

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Sure you can. Just get a part time job after your regular job. Everyones hiring.

I'm retired.... dont even have a 1st job let alone a 2nd....lol

Gorillabilly said:

I'm retired.... dont even have a 1st job let alone a 2nd....lol

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Oh shit my bad. Nice on the retirement though!!! How many years you have to work? If I'm 40 how many more years do i have to do this fucking shit for?

a mongo frog said:

Oh shit my bad. Nice on the retirement though!!! How many years you have to work? If I'm 40 how many more years do i have to do this fucking shit for?

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Depends on your situation. I retired from the military in 2004, then did 2 years as a pmc. Then went to work in factories. Lost factory job last year and just said fuck it. Cars, house paid for, wife works and she's 10 years younger than me. Im 50 last may. I could work and fatten up 401k, or save, or blow it.... but just enjoying smoking late and sleeping in for now. World is a dumpster fire rite now, best stay below radar.

Gorillabilly said:

I bet I can't afford it.

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$1099 for the RSpec version and $1349 for Diablo.

It's not a bad price really, considering that you could DIY it for like $900 (Rspec) minimum, plus some of your time to build a frame close to a nice.

Gonna need a bigger tent!

farmingfisherman said:

Gonna need a bigger tent!

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They say it fits in a 4x4 tent.

PJ Diaz said:

They say it fits in a 4x4 tent.

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I've got 4 older HLG 260's in 3000K that are still kicking. If I do anything I'll rebuild them with new boards.

Wow, that light looks fricking awesome,

I think HLG have literally just raised the bar against the bar style lamps

Bravo HLG for continuing to innovate, particularly during these strange times!!!

a mongo frog said:

Sure you can. Just get a part time job after your regular job. Everyones hiring.

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Ain't were im from.massive unemployment.

insomnia65 said:

Ain't were im from.massive unemployment.

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They can't get enough people to work here, most businesses here are short staffed.

As far as retiring early, grow more weed. I guess it's not really being retired because it's a fair amount of work, but better than any job I ever had.

PJ Diaz said:

HLG's new light isn't on their site yet, but I've found some pics and info. There are two versions, a RSpec version and a Diablo version.

Here's the RSpec version:

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Specifications

Power	60-600 Watts
Voltage Range	100-277 VAC 50-60Hz
LED	Samsung LM301H & Deep Red
Flowering Footprint	5' x 5' at 12"
Veg Footprint	6' x 6' at 24”
System PPF Efficacy	2.62 μmol/joule
Total output	1584 PPF
Dimensions	XX" x XX" x 4"
Recommended Mounting Height	10"-24" inches above canopy

Here's the Diablo version:

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Specifications

Power	60-650 Watts
Voltage Range	100-277 VAC 50-60Hz
LED	Samsung LM301H & Deep Red
Flowering Footprint	5' x 5' at 12"
Veg Footprint	6' x 6' at 24”
System PPF Efficacy	xxx μmol/joule
Total output	xxx PPF
Dimensions	XX" x XX" x 4"
Recommended Mounting Height	10"-24" inches above canopy

Not sure why ppf efficiency isn't listed, but Steven mentioned on the GML show, it's 2.93 μmol/joule.

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Any idea when they are supposed to drop this? I'm in the market for two new lights for my two 4x4s.

insomnia65 said:

Ain't were im from.massive unemployment.

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Not sure whats true anymore. Out side of hospitality jobs business is booming where i live. I think there is a lot of people aging out of the workforce into retirement and the incoming workers to fill those jobs is zero. How many 18-25 year olds we see on construction sites any more?
To keep this thread worthy if you need a Scorpion light come to Northern California get on a construction crew as a temp and get that money.

RosinNikko said:

Any idea when they are supposed to drop this? I'm in the market for two new lights for my two 4x4s.

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According to Steve from HLG per the GML show, The R Spec version will drop first this week or next. They had to redesign the boxes to fit a shipping standard so that each light would not cost over $100 to ship in the lower 48. The Diablo will take a couple more weeks after that due to waiting on supplies from Samsung.

That R Spec is likely the one that is best for tent use unless you are growing at a very high level of co2 and a perfect environment otherwise you’ll just overwhelm the plant.* According to the Gentleman from HLG— Once again, This is coming from the recent GML Youtube video with Steve from HLG but I am paraphrasing what he said, hopefully he will come post here and fill us in on the details. I really am a fan of how he cut these panels to minimize waste, etc. I think I’ll get two of these R specs myself for now for rent use but plan on getting the Diablos when I upgrade to a 12x16 room.

Slim Piggens said:

According to Steve from HLG per the GML show, The R Spec version will drop first this week or next. They had to redesign the boxes to fit a shipping standard so that each light would not cost over $100 to ship in the lower 48. The Diablo will take a couple more weeks after that due to waiting on supplies from Samsung.

That R Spec is likely the one that is best for tent use unless you are growing at a very high level of co2 and a perfect environment otherwise you’ll just overwhelm the plant.* According to the Gentleman from HLG— Once again, This is coming from the recent GML Youtube video with Steve from HLG but I am paraphrasing what he said, hopefully he will come post here and fill us in on the details. I really am a fan of how he cut these panels to minimize waste, etc. I think I’ll get two of these R specs myself for now for rent use but plan on getting the Diablos when I upgrade to a 12x16 room.

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The diablos would be running at .15w per diode, the r-spec would run about .35, this out of max of .6w. my guess is that light depreciation will be worse on an r-spec. Mygrow ran tests on a bunch of lights and found out that they all depreciated more than suggested by data sheet. Data sheet seems to have them tested at .2w and 85C, where as my grow had them tested at around .4w and around 50-60C. So either data sheet is wrong or the wattage thru the diode is really important, maybe even more so than temps. Standard advice ive heard is Tj less than 50C and you should not have to worry much about depreciation.

Not to be a doubter, but timbers cypress looks like some competition

I wonder what the difference in performance will be compared to the 600 Rspec? Both the Scorpion and Rspec 600 say 60 to 600 watts. These new designs seem to have more heat sync and spread yet both state good to flower a 5x5. Be interesting to see what the new design does on a practical level, especially since I just bought the Rspec, lol. Oh the joy of technology, there is always a new model coming down the pike.

The Gavita 1700e is 1700 PPF, and is only rated for a 4 x 4. I think they are slightly overrating the foot print of the light.

Gavita says the 1700e is a direct replacement for a 1000w HID in a 4 x 4 area. The Hortilux HPS is the most powerful SE-HID at 1600 PPF. Hortilux was also developed spe4cifically for a 4 x 4 area.
The HLG 650R is 60w-610w, and is 1700 PPF, and $1100.

What am I missing?? 650r is more powerful, and costs less???

One can buy a Gavita for $1300.
Gavita is 645w