high ph bud soaking to prevent bud rot?!

Discussion in 'Outdoor Growing' started by ganga gurl420, May 9, 2018.

  1.  
    ganga gurl420

    ganga gurl420 Well-Known Member

    Screenshot_2018-05-09-07-34-40.png So this is interesting...
    Ran into a master grower yesterday (and a botany professor) and as we discussed bud rot, he said that he learned years ago that rot will not grow in an alkaline environment.
    So he told me that he often sprays his buds with high alkaline water. He especially soaks the hell out of them after a rain. He swears he hasn't had rot in years.
    So I started reading up on this and several growers swear by this method as a preventative.

    Interesting food for thought....
     
  2.  
    Sir Napsalot

    Sir Napsalot Well-Known Member

    LOL @ "Fuckeliana"

    On topic, this seems like an easy remedy if it works.
     
    ganga gurl420 likes this.
  3.  
    ganga gurl420

    ganga gurl420 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I think I will try it on a few of my plants especially since we get so much rain. :)
     
  4.  
    Sir Napsalot

    Sir Napsalot Well-Known Member

    Most municipal water supplies are buffered to be slightly alkaline (~7.2-7.4) to avoid damaging metal pipes
    A teaspoon of baking soda in a gallon of water will fix the pH at about 8.2-8.4
     
    ganga gurl420 likes this.
  5.  
    ganga gurl420

    ganga gurl420 Well-Known Member

    Well sir I do believe you are on to something! Screenshot_2018-05-09-13-54-59.png
     
  6.  
    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

    I use 1 part lemon juice to 2 parts water to fight PM.
     
    BionicΩChronic likes this.
  7.  
    dr greenthumbs

    dr greenthumbs Well-Known Member

    Baking soda is great. Foliar spray right at dark then rinse an hour later. I've seen products at the shop for pm and rot, main ingredient, sodium bicarbonate.
     
    Beachwalker likes this.
  8.  
    BionicΩChronic

    BionicΩChronic Well-Known Member

    So glad I read this.
    What if I didn't wash off the baking soda water?
    Maybe use liquid ph buffer lemon juice like Larry or wash buds at harvest as a fix?
    Don't wanna smoke baking soda lmao
     
    ganga gurl420 likes this.
  9.  
    ganga gurl420

    ganga gurl420 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't use lemon juice personally. Lemon juice is acidic and the whole point is to raise the pH to stop p.m. and rot. I will use the baking soda water through out the grow and then let 1 good rain rinse them right before harvest. ;)
     
  10.  
    Beachwalker

    Beachwalker Well-Known Member

    Yep works well, learned this the hard way unfortunately (septoria) :wall:

    Use sulfur burner for better results, or control humidity for best results ?
    -good luck!
     
  11.  
    BionicΩChronic

    BionicΩChronic Well-Known Member

    Did very little research and found out these other alternatives
    Dolomite Lime
    Dyna gro protect (potassium-silicate)
    ((May not be 1000% organic I didnt check but P-S is a mineral))
    Potassium biocarbonate

    The last two will also work as a foliar feed for flower! Making your buds bigger while also fighting mold cant beat that.
    Probably be best to spray after each rain
    And also once each week.
     
    ganga gurl420 likes this.
  12.  
    ganga gurl420

    ganga gurl420 Well-Known Member

    Yeah the potassium bicarb. Is what my friend uses. I just want to grow as organic as possible tho....but I have time to do more studies ;)
     
  13.  
    ganga gurl420

    ganga gurl420 Well-Known Member

    P.s. I know that it is okay for organic farming. Who knows I may end up using that instead. Or maybe both
     
  14.  
    Sir Napsalot

    Sir Napsalot Well-Known Member

    It's one teaspoon dissolved in a gallon of water- there's really nothing to wash off. The baking soda is only used to raise the pH of the water
     
    BionicΩChronic and Beachwalker like this.
  15.  
    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

    I first heard of this from the Weed Nerd videos Sub Cool did. Dave {from the Garden of Weeden} used it on his garden. I did a google search, but couldn't find the exact video, but did find this magazine that mentions it.

    http://www.weedworldmagazine.org/2018/01/19/the-garden-of-weeden-part-2-by-subcool/
     
  16.  
    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

    Knock on wood, so far I have only had PM on one plant. That was the mother to the Hurricane Head FP strain. I did the lemon water for the last 2-3 weeks before the chop. It did seem to help.
     
  17.  
    too larry

    too larry Well-Known Member

  18.  
    ganga gurl420

    ganga gurl420 Well-Known Member

    too larry and BionicΩChronic like this.
  19.  
    dr greenthumbs

    dr greenthumbs Well-Known Member

    Baking soda rinse works when done correctly, period. You don't have to use a large amount, just enough to raise the ph on the surface. Mildew likes to grow on acidic areas, raising the ph on the plant surface Will cause unsuitable conditions for growth. Sulfur burners work too, but you can ruin your grow if it's not done correctly, I've done this, it sucks. Controlling your environment is the best preemptive measure, but these things happen, especially outdoors. There are so many gimmicks out these days, but there is always an age old organic solution to most problems. Most people just go to the shop and ask the people there. These are employees first and foremost, they are naturally going to sale you something they carry. I've yet to see a grow shop carry baking soda. I have seen many expensive products for this particular problem with the active ingredient being sodium bicarbonate.
     

Share This Page