UncleSunny
Well-Known Member
I've been wondering what the line is between being a hero and a traitor. In the mind of the nosy neighbor who smells pot coming out of your apartment and calls the cops, they were "doing it for your own good", even though they just royally fucked up your life. What about the Employee who sees illegal business practices and tells the authorities? They do the Right thing and bring down the Bad Guy, but innocent, incidental people lose their jobs.
I mean, is it just a question of the relative Greater Good? If the Greater Good is relative, there really is no "Good", just 'good for Us'. For as much as I have learned, I have not been alive long enough to see much clarity in this world. We all talk like there is some Answer out there that we need to find, or at least articulate, and then peace and love would spread across the land. Maybe there is: I wouldn't want to give up hope that a solution exists.
To discuss my original question, I think part of the difference between a tattle-tale and a Hero is one's proclaimed allegiance. A Iraqi man blowing up a U.S. Embassy is a terrorist (to the U.S.), but an American doing the same thing is a traitor. It is all about betrayal, right? The face you put on, the benefits you reap from your associations, these are what makes these back stabs such profound crimes.
How then can we justify the lies of our leaders? I don't mean promising to try and failing, but direct falsehoods, ones that result in the deaths of our fellow Men? In this line of thinking, many of the people who make the laws that define our lives are traitors under their own definition. I mean, which is worse, blowing up a Federal Building or manipulating the currency system of a country to keep working people in debt, or manipulating intelligence to create a war...Theft and murder, really when you strip it down.
I really pride myself on my ability to not run off on conspiracy theories and blame the Government for everything wrong with the world. I do hold some incredibly Liberal ideas, but usually when activists talk to me for a while, they end up calling me a Conservative. This is because I think I really don't know what is going on behind those locked doors. I know there is more to it than the Green Party's pamphlet I read about Dick Cheney's evil cabal. I know that there is a whole big world of people who see things differently, and I don't know everything.
I do think that it is a violation of our rights that George and Dick got to testify together to the Warren Commission in secret with no transcripts available. I think it is wrong that the Patriot Act was forced through so quickly that no Senators or Congressmen could actually read it. My conservative side wants me to sit back and catalogue all these questions until all the pieces come together. I want the world to be a good place for me, but I also want that for little old ladies and hard drinking cowboys and go-go Wall street Investors...
That is the Answer I was referring to earlier. Is there a Greater Good and can we ever 'just get along'?
I mean, is it just a question of the relative Greater Good? If the Greater Good is relative, there really is no "Good", just 'good for Us'. For as much as I have learned, I have not been alive long enough to see much clarity in this world. We all talk like there is some Answer out there that we need to find, or at least articulate, and then peace and love would spread across the land. Maybe there is: I wouldn't want to give up hope that a solution exists.
To discuss my original question, I think part of the difference between a tattle-tale and a Hero is one's proclaimed allegiance. A Iraqi man blowing up a U.S. Embassy is a terrorist (to the U.S.), but an American doing the same thing is a traitor. It is all about betrayal, right? The face you put on, the benefits you reap from your associations, these are what makes these back stabs such profound crimes.
How then can we justify the lies of our leaders? I don't mean promising to try and failing, but direct falsehoods, ones that result in the deaths of our fellow Men? In this line of thinking, many of the people who make the laws that define our lives are traitors under their own definition. I mean, which is worse, blowing up a Federal Building or manipulating the currency system of a country to keep working people in debt, or manipulating intelligence to create a war...Theft and murder, really when you strip it down.
I really pride myself on my ability to not run off on conspiracy theories and blame the Government for everything wrong with the world. I do hold some incredibly Liberal ideas, but usually when activists talk to me for a while, they end up calling me a Conservative. This is because I think I really don't know what is going on behind those locked doors. I know there is more to it than the Green Party's pamphlet I read about Dick Cheney's evil cabal. I know that there is a whole big world of people who see things differently, and I don't know everything.
I do think that it is a violation of our rights that George and Dick got to testify together to the Warren Commission in secret with no transcripts available. I think it is wrong that the Patriot Act was forced through so quickly that no Senators or Congressmen could actually read it. My conservative side wants me to sit back and catalogue all these questions until all the pieces come together. I want the world to be a good place for me, but I also want that for little old ladies and hard drinking cowboys and go-go Wall street Investors...
That is the Answer I was referring to earlier. Is there a Greater Good and can we ever 'just get along'?
