Help with upgrading ionic nutrients please !

I think maybe fe is on the low side !? Or s

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image.png image.png image.png image.png Hi can somebody help me and tell me what looks on the low side off these elements !!??

and if anyone can spot what elements are missing there's 3 missing what ino off just need to no what ppm to put them all at ! So am not off balance and end up difisent in any one off them !

were to buy the missing 3 elements in what forms !how to bump up the other elements with what !?and were from !? with how much!? Am in a 40 little hydroponic res in Rockwool slabs with drippers !

And what's the v-w what's that in ppm anybody Ino it's volume weight but how you convert it to ppm !?

Thanks gfunk
 
image.png My water analysis to ! It's very soft ! Am trying to add lot more ca too cos I hear cannabis tissue samples have lots off ca so trying to add more then normal thanks again ! And s for tease so trying to get a good balance off all these elements with my soft water !
 
What are you growing in?
What water?
Soil? What soil?
Add anything else?

All depends on your answer!
 
In reality, Ionic is pretty good stuff! Very clean in hydro too! That's a good thing!

I would add a Kelp extract (AGE OLD or MAXICROP SEAWEED) to my feedings and possibly a good Ca/Mg source.....G&H CALiMAGic is good all around.

That's about it!

Reduce to 1/2 strength in soil use or simply feed every other time you water! You might start at 2/3 and go up to 100% if need be with the every other watering thing....Safe way to start.
 
Dr. Who said:
What are you growing in?
What water?
Soil? What soil?
Add anything else?

All depends on your answer!
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Rockwool slabs ! 15mins every 3 hrs ! Reclerlating
Tap water ,soft my water analysis is there dr !
My ec is 1.2 always
 
Dr. Who said:
In reality, Ionic is pretty good stuff! Very clean in hydro too! That's a good thing!

I would add a Kelp extract (AGE OLD or MAXICROP SEAWEED) to my feedings and possibly a good Ca/Mg source.....G&H CALiMAGic is good all around.

That's about it!

Reduce to 1/2 strength in soil use or simply feed every other time you water! You might start at 2/3 and go up to 100% if need be with the every other watering thing....Safe way to start.
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Yeah thanks doc ! Was thinking si , seaweed and a chelt , fulvic I was thinking and citric acid for ph down so got a organic chelt and synthic chelt !
 
Kingrow1 said:
Whats missing and Fe looks pretty standard imo, is about that level for a lot of my ferts too...?
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In hydro King read that it's sodium ,chlorine ,silica . should be 17elements kingrow and maybe a chelt ! Say a fulvic or citric acid !?What you think !? Fulvic and seaweed at a 5:2 for foilar feed to !? Good to go !?
 
Look at dyna gro cl,na So my question is how to get close to that amount with me useing ionic grow and bloom in a 40 litter tank ! How do I add cl , na in them ppm amounts to 40 litters !? Do yous get me yet!? am dislyic ino it's hard work trying to understand ! How I put things across !
 

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1gfunk1 said:
Rockwool slabs ! 15mins every 3 hrs ! Reclerlating
Tap water ,soft my water analysis is there dr !
My ec is 1.2 always
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Mmm, drop your cycles to 6 or less ( I ran 5 ) !
One at lights on and 1 right before lights out!

Rockwool holds moisture and nutrient well, you won't need more cycles then that!

Si is a good thing too! I liked it in synthetic runs....Your kelp product is high in micros, so that will cover all of those. Good in vits and Fulvic/humic contents, along with amino's! GREAT stuff kelp extract!
 
Dr. Who said:
Mmm, drop your cycles to 6 or less ( I ran 5 ) !
One at lights on and 1 right before lights out!

Rockwool holds moisture and nutrient well, you won't need more cycles then that!

Si is a good thing too! I liked it in synthetic runs....Your kelp product is high in micros, so that will cover all of those. Good in vits and Fulvic/humic contents, along with amino's! GREAT stuff kelp extract!
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Thanks doc ! So how would you add sodium and cl !? And at how much !?
 
1gfunk1 said:
Thanks doc ! So how would you add sodium and cl !? And at how much !?
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I wouldn't at all!

I might not even use the Si with kelp extract use! That's an "up to you" call......Won't hurt......Always remember to add Si first or last and any Ca product the opposite!
 
Dr. Who said:
I wouldn't at all!

I might not even use the Si with kelp extract use! That's an "up to you" call......Won't hurt......Always remember to add Si first or last and any Ca product the opposite!
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Thanks man ! So if input the ca in first then add si last and the other way round 'v yes
 
1gfunk1 said:
Thanks man ! So if input the ca in first then add si last and the other way round 'v yes
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Yup , always one as the first thing in and stir well then the other last! Si reacts with Ca to form a "precipitate and they would cancel each other out! By doing them as far apart as you can. They do not react , as they are in too weak a solution to allow it.!

VERY important to do it that way! If doing soil runs. Do the feed with the Ca one day and add the SI to the following "plain water" watering....
 
Dr. Who said:
Yup , always one as the first thing in and stir well then the other last! Si reacts with Ca to form a "precipitate and they would cancel each other out! By doing them as far apart as you can. They do not react , as they are in too weak a solution to allow it.!

VERY important to do it that way! If doing soil runs. Do the feed with the Ca one day and add the SI to the following "plain water" watering....
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Cheers for that learn something today thanks again man ' What ph for Rockwool you found best !?
 
1gfunk1 said:
Cheers for that learn something today thanks again man ' What ph for Rockwool you found best !?
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I always would run between 5.8 - 6.2... I would set to 5.8 and let it rise to 6.1-6.2 and drop it back to 5.8 (if you slip and hit 5.7 - leave it there as that will be ok).
Letting the pH "swing" like that sort of "copies" the natural "swing" of pH in soil growing. The reason is that some Nutrients are more "available or usable" at the upper and lower ends of the pH range......you get a better or more natural nutrient use by allowing the swing.
 
Ionic is pretty good...if all you're growing haze or haze-dominant crosses. After all, the line was originally designed to target Neville's Haze, primarily.
For my indica-dominants, however, I had to supplement beyond what I consider cost-effective while using Ionic. Not knocking it, I just think there are more versarile alternatives out there.
 
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