help ......looking for this set up in usa sold by someone

hi

ok i been looking every were for the set up i want for the new room

i found it but it is in UK and well between the exchange rate and the shipping no way in hell i am order from there even if i made a shit load of money i am crazy but not a fucking moron so help please


http://alienhydroponicsystems.co.uk/deep-water-current/xl-4-pot-rdwc-system-dwc.html



as u see it is a nice rdwc with res and a float vaule

i have seen one that comes with a 200 mesh filter (but i am not looking for that ) ....sold in the usa

this is about what i want it has it all i can hook in a PH doser to the mixing cell ....the tank will keep the right water lvl the ph will mix and stay right ......add in a 1/10 hp chiller with led lights and air pumps with fans i am just under my 15 amp on the breaker

so anyone out there knows of a place that sell a system like this with all the hook ups u see in the pics/site ...........share

if u know a good DIY for this kind of system that links places to get the barrel...................share

if u have amethod draining them out completely when u are flushing (other then unhook and dump in sink).............share



please and thank u

no one damn

guess trail and error

ok i guess i am building it

i understand most of the design and how it works ............except the water pump aspect
where does it go in the system
what type of one do i need

as for the buckets
black buckets
net lids
air pump..........nipples for lines
air stones
the lines and all look like normal pex and or pvc

the water pump is the thing i am un sure about what kind to get and where it goes in the system
same with water chiller where in the system do i hook this (might need to lower the water temp 10 or 15 degrees in summer un sure so get it that way all good)

I don't understand. According to what you said, you can pull 24 oz plants in soil. Now you want to copy this gay setup?

Those lines don't look like pex or pvc to me.

If you want to use those tiny hoses, use a tiny pump.

The pump goes into control bucket.

- Jiji

jijiandfarmgang said:

I don't understand. According to what you said, you can pull 24 oz plants in soil. Now you want to copy this gay setup?

Those lines don't look like pex or pvc to me.

If you want to use those tiny hoses, use a tiny pump.

The pump goes into control bucket.

- Jiji

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that was a single bucket dwc ..............this is a rdwc with under current and a float valve with a res ............i never once messed with that and only ever seen them in videos and pics (not 1 sec of hands on)

hoses i have a line of them from 1 inch (inner dia) pexs is the standard ppl use in the watering system for yards they come in 1 inch i think even 1 and half i have to go back to store (i sawl them when i was building a stil) .........the pics in there look to be about 1 and half to 2 inch with a inch line feeding the pump

the sub pump would not work i would need to have it on the back of the system in a flood box to keep the water moving


i looking for a inline pump that is not in the water (would look like car waterpump but work of a plug and be a low amp) ......can not find this pump tho
and the other part is where would a chiller go into that system

i am going to try to keep the 4 buckets in the tent but the mixing cell and res outside so easy access and filling (the only time i should need to mess with the inner buckets is to tilt them for draining the water and harvest/change them out)

I built my own its pretty simple. Don't know why I'm helping you since your an ass but alas so am I. lol we outta get along just fine.

If your buckets are tied into pvc plumbing you won't be able to tilt them very easily.

You can run a line off the controller thru a shutoff valve to a floor drain. Open valve to drain system (just turn off feed from the top off tank first lol). It won't get it all but if all buckets and controller have bulkheads installed as low as possible it gets all but the last half inch drained and that's good for me.

For the barrel just use a 30 gallon drum with a bulkhead or grommet in the side near bottom. All this does is feed the gravity float in the controller. I like about a 50% strength nutrient mix in here.

Controller just has a float valve to keep dwc levels maintained from the 50% tank. There is a submersible feed pump in here (or large systems use external inline pumps way too big for your setup). The pump circulates the nutrients to the bucket sites, nutrients return to controller via larger pipe to prevent a backup/overflow. All buckets should have same water level as controller when pump runs. If controller level drops your returns are inadequate.

Your chiller can go inline between pump and bucket sites.

Look up Current Culture Undercurrent if you wanna buy a premade system in the US...What you are looking at is an undercurrent RDWC setup.

Alternatively, I made a rough estimate for what it would cost to build a couple 6 pot setups.

• 14 Reservoirs, preferably 8 gallons-ish, with lids $70
  28 2" Uniseals...Contacted a guy on craigslist about buying 28 brand new 2" uniseals, offered 45 bucks, we'll see what he comes back with. $60
  Schedule40 PVC, 2", probably aroud 30 feet or so $36
  8 2" PVC elbow fittings $12
  2 2" x 1" "T" fittings $4
  2 1" "T" fittings $2
  2 1" ball valves $2
  15-20 feet of 1" or 3/4" tubing $25
  2 Return pumps, around 600GPH each $120
  2 Float valves $10
  1 55 gallon freshwater reservoir, or directly connected RO/DI Unit or Tallboy filter $100
  Airline Tubing $8
  14 Airstones $28
  1 Badass Industrial air pump, or 2 regular industrial air pumps $70
  12 Five or Six inch netpots $12
  50L Hydroton $40
  Possibly a chiller down the line, depending on room temps. $300 Not added to total
  
  Guesstimation on price leaves me at around 600 bucks to build 2 individual six pot systems...I was at my local hydro store today, and for a 4 pot UC system they were asking around 900. I'm hoping I can do it for less than 600, depending on what I get the materials for.​
  
  
  
  

You have the tools to work with Pex?

Never seen pex used in yards before, it is UV sensitive.

PE (polyethelene) is whats used around here.

- Jiji

jijiandfarmgang said:

You have the tools to work with Pex?

Never seen pex used in yards before, it is UV sensitive.

PE (polyethelene) is whats used around here.

- Jiji

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ma'am
this stuff.............they are colored so i am thinking it is the same in europe but differnt colors .........as for the connection to the buckets they have pex barbs i use them now for cooling the worm for the stil.........that is how i know the pex lines they have clear tubing in the same row (how i know they make up to 2 inner dia)

Snaps .......we are cool i will be in denver look for amish guy next to a tall ass balded man and a smaller well dressed guy too ..........jack me in the arm call me a son of a bitch ...i will say what the hell did i do have a shot (shine i am shipping myself a bottle)/ bong

work .........so u are telling me to revesre it have the pump in the controller with the pipes feeding back into the controler and if the water does not lvl out pipes to small (i can make the return low on the system what about adding a 2nd one right at lvl same size return like this model)............the drain i am now thinking of making a 8 inch floor maybe 7 in (right at the lvl of the vent in dr150) u know a few 4x4 on plywood (bottom of the bucket has a drain valve each hooked into some clear tubing i have run it to a large cooler i use then the pump i use for cooling just run a tube to the drain pump the bulk out then drain the rest by hand once it is down to manageable weights (every gallon of water is 8 lbs jail house work out)

dude that did the work out damn good job ...............may i say since u are going this way invest in the micropore stones i linked about they are costly but they will out last most anything else on the market and the only way to get smaller bubbles is a nano gen (outside my range and needs ) ............a buddy working in cali is using fog....yes fog instead of water having good results

as for methods of decreasing the cost ...........the amount u are growing ain't just for u ............so the ppl u plan to hook up the ones u like 200 bucks now and what i grow i will make your price cost ............they give u the 200 bucks when u got some for sale always offer it to them first they say no u sell it to other ppl for 20 to 50 bucks more (depends how far u drive and how long they make u wait to see them /collect the money ..........20 miles 20 min wait... 20 bucks more if they are paying all at once if it is i need now and get back to u in day 30 more )

Yes pump in controller feeds buckets, in your linked system that's the line up high.

The line that's down low is your return, if water goes in faster than it flows out problems arise. To avoid this, upsize the return as its a gravity based flow and not pumped.

Short of a floor drain or sump pit your method is as good as it gets imo.

Repeat after me. It's not pex.

I've never seen Pex over 1". I'm sure you couldn't afford the tools for it if you found it.

You cant just slide pex on a barb fitting. Pex-b (most common, the one you linked to) needs to be crimped or clamped with special tools, or use expensive shark bite type fittings.

- Jiji

jijiandfarmgang said:

Repeat after me. It's not pex.

I've never seen Pex over 1". I'm sure you couldn't afford the tools for it if you found it.

You cant just slide pex on a barb fitting. Pex-b (most common, the one you linked to) needs to be crimped or clamped with special tools, or use expensive shark bite type fittings.

- Jiji

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Ma'am

http://www.pexsupply.com/PEX-Tubing-516000

sorry ............look down the page
1inch 1 and half inch 2 inch and 3 inch ..............just like i said

u can use Pex line in your houses now instead of copper or cpvc.....................as for the shark bite things if they make the system solid and able to be taken down with ease ......then iwill use them the cost is not as much as u think (plus i am a lucky bastard ........guy that gets something off me owns a Ace hardware store ) ..........he will trade me gear for bud or shine any day to keep cash in his pocket

and yes u can use a the barbed (cuffed) connectors just push them inside the lines (if u are worried about then get a hoseclamp).......rem this system does not need pressure so i do not need a permit seal just a working like i use with the stil
http://www.pexsupply.com/PEX-Fittings-525000

SnapsProvolone said:

Yes pump in controller feeds buckets, in your linked system that's the line up high.

The line that's down low is your return, if water goes in faster than it flows out problems arise. To avoid this, upsize the return as its a gravity based flow and not pumped.

Short of a floor drain or sump pit your method is as good as it gets imo.

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how does this sound

from the pump to the back buckets use 1 t line 1x1x1 that goes to a 2nd set 1 x1/2x1/2 ...........from there they go to the bucket one lower one at water lvl for 3 gallon........keep the top one at only 1/2 inch but the bottom return i will make it 1 1/2 all the way to the controller

this should allow the return to be fine and keep the lower and upper parts of the buckets with moving water so nothing really sits and settles in one bucket

I use pex. I use type b with crimp rings. Then check with a go/no go guage. You can't just put a hose clamp on it.

Like I said, I've never seen larger than 1 inch, didn't say it doesn't exist. Checked the link and the pex larger than 1" is type A.

Type A requires its own tools (expensive).


- Jiji

jijiandfarmgang said:

I use pex. I use type b with crimp rings. Then check with a go/no go guage. You can't just put a hose clamp on it.

Like I said, I've never seen larger than 1 inch, didn't say it doesn't exist. Checked the link and the pex larger than 1" is type A.

Type A requires its own tools (expensive).


- Jiji

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thanks for the info about the tools .................i am redneck with redneck buddies odds are one of them has what i need (i got buddy named cletus ungine lippy jr the man built a car from 3 junked cars in his yard ) back in the day when we needed a bong just tell cletus with in 10 mins he would hand u something that would work...if not then tell phelps what i need and he will trade it to me for something he wants (shine or bud)

honestly if i could buy the system like that i would hence why i started this up ............building it i know myself it will be close but i will end up spending more time fixxing the issuses i missed/messed up

oh this is a trick i learned from anouther buddy worked at home depot ..............buy the tool use the tool return the tool get a prepaid card for the store and use that for what ever else u need later (or sell it like the herion heads do they steal breakers and return them for the cash to pay for habbit then sell the cards outside of the store for half the value to get the cash to buy the supply they want) it has gotten so bad lately they have actually turned ppl away with out a proof of a transaction the slip or the card it was gotten on cross checked in the system

and for those ppl with nothing left to lose ............i am not telling u to do it but i am sharing the info ............in home depot they are not allowed to do anything (can not stop u can not touch u can not take photos of u can not fallow u in parking lot and copy plate numbers .....nothing if they do they lose their jobs) becuase of this ppl have gone in filled up whole carts and just walked out the door .............not just small things talking gens and riding lawn mowers

and why no hose clamp ...........alls it is evenly applied pressure on the barbs/cuffs to help ensure they stay where u want them ..........just like with ducting

Just forget the pex. Its a bad choice in your situation.

Home Depot does not have tools that deal with larger than 1" pex.

The link you showed a photo of was vinyl hose (99 percent positive).

Pex is meant to be installed in areas that never see the light of day as it is UV sensitive.

I'd use pvc as its cheap as chips and easy to work with.

Maybe you should just buy a pre-made ebb and flow setup.

- Jiji

ok i think i got it

contacted the ppl ...............1124.18 us dollars to buy and ship the system

i need flexie piping so i can keep the mixxer and rez out of the tent

pump ...............this is the correct one will allow me to suck from the back end of the system dump into mixxer and then pull back tho bucket (this is the correct GPH for this kind of system ? ............maximum20 gallons between 5 bucks....min 15 gallons )

now with this feed comming back in on a 1 inch feed line and the buckects connected to 1 inch line (but 2 side so 2 inch) this should be the correct math ?

looking for the black pcv tubing aslong as the barbs/cuffed connections will work with it then i am going that way other wise i will break down and get insulted pex line (foam around it like what is on bike handle bars for kids) and i spray paint it white

as for the rez .................looking at waterbarrel with premade attachments just hook a washer feeding line between the two of them ......that is 3/4 inch