Heisenbergs uncertainty principle?????help

mainliner

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Could any help me get my head around this stuff!!
i understand double slit but not this one , the light gets wider as the slits close.......put what's that showing? Im trying to find a diagram or vid which is easy to understand but cant :(

and how closed can they get the slit before it stops getting wider? The closer it gets the wider it gets ? ....... Then how wide is it when its closed shut ?

please help me understand this on a dummies level ........ I will lower myself to this level it helps ;)
thank u
 
light is waves and particles ..they function as both

so the waves can get longer and the particles can get close ..........it like with a laser point ......up close it is a dot mile away it is 6 foot dot that blinds ppl
 
light is waves and particles ..they function as both

so the waves can get longer and the particles can get close ..........it like with a laser point ......up close it is a dot mile away it is 6 foot dot that blinds ppl
yes i know this but this doesn't explain my question.........you have eaten acid no


jk:)
 
yes i know this but this doesn't explain my question.........you have eaten acid no


jk:)

LSD ...........i have had more then enough to declared me insane in a court of law ........if u are asking the numbers somewhere over 4000 doses shrooms about 1000 peyote non but i have had barrels 3 times .....never licked the toad ....and never had the dream tea (shaman herbs from south america)



and your ? is not worded correctly .........are u talking about the whole spectrum or just what we can see
 
LSD ...........i have had more then enough to declared me insane in a court of law ........if u are asking the numbers somewhere over 4000 doses shrooms about 1000 peyote non but i have had barrels 3 times .....never licked the toad ....and never had the dream tea (shaman herbs from south america)
this is why they call you the hisger fucker
 
Could any help me get my head around this stuff!!
i understand double slit but not this one , the light gets wider as the slits close.......put what's that showing? Im trying to find a diagram or vid which is easy to understand but cant :(

and how closed can they get the slit before it stops getting wider? The closer it gets the wider it gets ? ....... Then how wide is it when its closed shut ?

please help me understand this on a dummies level ........ I will lower myself to this level it helps ;)
thank u

Basically what uncertainty comes down to is the more you know about one half of a pair of certain physical properties, the less you know about the other half. It's most often shown using location and momentum because it's something we can easily relate to. Knowing where something is and what it's doing is pretty fundamental in our everyday lives.

So, with a wide slit, you can clearly see the momentum of the photons*. They project exactly as you'd expect, all moving in a straight path forming a perfect dot. The important part about momentum in this example relates more to velocity, specifically direction. Velocity is speed and direction, momentum describes mass along with velocity.

Anyways, by closing the slit, he forces a condition of knowing more precisely the location of the photons as they passes through the slit. Eventually you get to that balance point in the equation where closing the slit any further will make your now projected vertical bar start to go wonky. Think of this as the point, more or less, where you know both location and velocity of the photons as they pass through the slit with equal precision.

Continuing to close the slit throws the equation out of balance in favor of location. Uncertainty is forced to kick in and prevent the math from crashing, so to speak, by altering the velocity measurements at the slit. The result is an output (the bar projected on the screen) that shows an increasing degree of change in velocity as the photons begin to spread out further and further.

So, you start with knowing more about velocity - A round dot on the screen
1/2 way through, you know as much about one as the other, and you see a bar
at the end, you know more about location and less about velocity with a completely distorted projection.

Closing the slit ends the experiment.

How was that?

Note: I'm no authority on the subject. This is just my understanding of it.

*that's what she said.
 
this why they call you the Amish fucker
no the lsd is why they call me bat shit crazy

the amish fucker title is from the way i treat/act with ppl ........the closest group of ppl i match to is Amish (work hard honest simple dresser ) plus the beard i have had since i was 18

west virgina i am known as Ishmale
 
Basically what uncertainty comes down to is the more you know about one half of a pair of certain physical properties, the less you know about the other half. It's most often shown using location and momentum because it's something we can easily relate to. Knowing where something is and what it's doing is pretty fundamental in our everyday lives.

So, with a wide slit, you can clearly see the momentum of the photons*. They project exactly as you'd expect, all moving in a straight path forming a perfect dot. The important part about momentum in this example relates more to velocity, specifically direction. Velocity is speed and direction, momentum describes mass along with velocity.

Anyways, by closing the slit, he forces a condition of knowing more precisely the location of the photons as they passes through the slit. Eventually you get to that balance point in the equation where closing the slit any further will make your now projected vertical bar start to go wonky. Think of this as the point, more or less, where you know both location and velocity of the photons as they pass through the slit with equal precision.

Continuing to close the slit throws the equation out of balance in favor of location. Uncertainty is forced to kick in and prevent the math from crashing, so to speak, by altering the velocity measurements at the slit. The result is an output (the bar projected on the screen) that shows an increasing degree of change in velocity as the photons begin to spread out further and further.

So, you start with knowing more about velocity - A round dot on the screen
1/2 way through, you know as much about one as the other, and you see a bar
at the end, you know more about location and less about velocity with a completely distorted projection.

Closing the slit ends the experiment.

How was that?

Note: I'm no authority on the subject. This is just my understanding of it.

*that's what she said.
god im such a dummie with this stuff then BAM!! it hits me and i get an understanding ....... But with this im just not getting the mysterious magic with the photons behavior???

i can understand the two slit like a child ........ And entanglement which are all magic quantum physics, but i just cant see it in the Heisenberg principle.


what drew me to it when i watched it on youtube was the magic of the photons going in a straight line on one side of the slit , and then spreading out and doing something different on the other side, but that's it, i cant really see why its magic !!........ It will click for me one day grrr!!
 
god im such a dummie with this stuff then BAM!! it hits me and i get an understanding ....... But with this im just not getting the mysterious magic with the photons behavior???

i can understand the two slit like a child ........ And entanglement which are all magic quantum physics, but i just cant see it in the Heisenberg principle.


what drew me to it when i watched it on youtube was the magic of the photons going in a straight line on one side of the slit , and then spreading out and doing something different on the other side, but that's it, i cant really see why its magic !!........ It will click for me one day grrr!!

Nobody fully understands the two slit experiment.

That's the beauty of a frontier, especially in quantum mechanics. It's just a whole different rule book than you are used to playing with. Douglas Adams has a great mention on the topic. Something along the lines of "as soon as somebody figures out the Universe, it is immediately destroyed and replaced with one that is even more complex."

As far as this one, though, I can't tell you why it does what it does, but I understand how it works.
 
Also, don't confuse this demo with the double slit. The double slit shows waves vs particles with the added bonus of what appears to be time travel. The big thing about the double slit is the role of the observer.
 
I can see the magic in the double slit and entanglement and tunneling ..... But not this one :(


im going to flick through a few more vids :)

iv just been trying to understand cymatics and phonons and this is pure magical stuff .
 
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