Having hell cloning..

I've got 3 CloneKings, and they worked great when I first got them. I had 99% success rate. After a couple of uses, I can't get shit to root in them. the stems just rot. I didn't even try that hard when I first got them, and they worked great. Thinking of going to a Rapid Rooter with a dome. Does anyone have any recommendations on a kit? Getting tired of fucking with these clogged jets, broken jets, cleaning the damn pumps, getting squirted in the face to see if the jets are working, etc. Looking for a 100 spot, or 2 50's, or something close.

If the water gets too warm in the cloner this will happen. Generally this is the cause if the unit has been sterilized properly.

Another thing that worked for my buddy that uses one, he put it on a repeat cycle timer so it runs 15 seconds, then 45 seconds off, 15 seconds on, 45 seconds off....

Renfro said:

If the water gets too warm in the cloner this will happen. Generally this is the cause if the unit has been sterilized properly.

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I've monitored the water temps, tried plain water, PH'd down water, adding nutes, not adding nutes... IDK what the fuck im doing wrong.

Plain water works best for cloning, no need to worry about pH until you have roots and start feeding.

What was the h2o temp running at?

Im honestly tired of the maintenance of the CloneKing. No wonder they send you an extra pack of 50 jets... they break, clog up, such a pain in the ass. Looking for maybe a rockwool/dome kit.

You are on well water right? Have you tried using distilled water for cloning?

Renfro said:

Plain water works best for cloning, no need to worry about pH until you have roots and start feeding.

What was the h2o temp running at?

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Mid to upper 70's by IR meter.

Thats the rapid rooters with the tray, you can buy just refill plugs.

A heat mat under it until roots pop will speed things up IME. Plain water.

Renfro said:

You are on well water right? Have you tried using distilled water for cloning?

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Yes, im on well water.... but why would I have gotten 99% success for 2 runs with them on well water, and now I can get shit to root?

DoubleAtotheRON said:

Mid to upper 70's by IR meter.

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Too hot. You want mid to upper 60's

You think aeroponic cloners are better than rockwool/dome setup?

LOL.... and that dude from CLoneKing told me the water temp is fine up to 90 degrees.

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You think aeroponic cloners are better than rockwool/dome setup?

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I hate rockwool, shit stays too wet. I don't use aero cloners, I have been using rapid rooters since about 2003. Before that I rooted in solo cups with perlite that I hand watered a couple times a day. Damn that seems like forever ago.

The rooters work so well, I always wonder why people use anything else.

DoubleAtotheRON said:

LOL.... and that dude from CLoneKing told me the water temp is fine up to 90 degrees.

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The best luck I've had cloning was just snipping the cuts n throwing em in a glass of water n forgetting abt them...works every time

I would go to the hydro store, grab a dome for a couple bucks and a tray of rapid rooters and a jar of clonex. Add a heat mat if you want really fast roots. Generally within 5 - 6 days I start getting roots with a heat mat, without it's more like 10 - 12.

why does the water get so hot? If you are running pump on 24/7, perhaps a recirculation timer would lower the heat gain.

Sterile is key
I'd take the cuts, wait a day, swap the water, wait a week, swap the water
the first water swap gets rid of any tid bits that wash off, then after a week a second change is good to just make things fresh
I used to run a drop of clorox bleach in my res too. I'm sure h202 would work as well

I switched from an aero to a bubble cloner because its much smaller and easier to manage

but after a while I just went to plain water- but it isn't well water it is town water ~110 ppm and has chloramine in it, which probably prevents bacterial growth

Renfro said:

I hate rockwool, shit stays too wet. I don't use aero cloners, I have been using rapid rooters since about 2003. Before that I rooted in solo cups with perlite that I hand watered a couple times a day. Damn that seems like forever ago.

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when do you do this do you let the water drain thru or hempy style with mini rez?

I've had great luck with a bubble cloner. No dome needed.