Harper hides pot poll

VIANARCHRIS

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Just ran across this article...
OTTAWA—A strong majority of Canadians think the federal government should either legalize marijuana or decriminalize the possession of small amounts, according to a new Department of Justice poll obtained by Torstar News Service.

The poll, kept secret by the Conservatives for months, found 70 per cent of respondents believe pot laws should be loosened.

Of the 3,000 respondents, 37.3 per cent said the government should legalize marijuana, while 33.4 per cent said the possession of small amounts should be decriminalized.


Only 13.7 per cent of respondents supported the status quo, while 12 per cent said they believe Ottawa should impose harsher penalties.

The Conservatives have made Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau’s pro-legalization stance a cornerstone of their recent attack ads, suggesting legalizing marijuana would make it the drug more accessible to children. But the poll numbers suggest more Canadians support Trudeau’s stance on marijuana, or the New Democrat Leader Thomas Mulcair’s support for decriminalization, than leaving the laws as is.

The Department of Justice commissioned the $175,000 Ipsos-Reid poll after the Supreme Court’s Bedford decision in December, which struck down certain prostitution laws as unconstitutional. The telephone poll focused almost exclusively on opinions on marijuana laws and prostitution, as did additional focus groups conducted by the pollster in seven cities.

While most respondents to the poll were in favour of loosening possession laws, the focus groups were less sure about the current laws and whether they should be changed.

“There was a great deal of confusion about whether the possession of small amounts of marijuana is a crime, a ticketable offence, or completely legal,” the report, which the Conservatives intended to withhold until the end of July, states.

“Participants often used the two terms ‘legalization’ and ‘decriminalization’ interchangeably and did not demonstrate a clear understanding of the distinction between the two.”

Still, when given background on current laws, most focus group participants said they’d prefer to see decriminalization — slapping smokers with a fine rather than a criminal record — or have the government leave the law as is.

According to the report, the groups did not show the same widespread support for legalization seen in the phone survey — although several “thought decriminalization would be a prudent first step before moving to legalization.”

Ipsos noted that neither marijuana laws, nor the prostitution issue that has made headlines in Ottawa since the introduction of Bill C-36, were top of mind for the focus groups. In fact, the phone survey showed that crime and safety issues in general ranked low on the list of priorities Canadians have for their governments.

Only 2.7 per cent of respondents to the phone survey mentioned crime and safety issues as a priority at all. That’s compared to 36.7 per cent who said that the economy was a priority, 19.1 per cent who felt health care was a priority, and 13.7 per cent who said the federal government should focus on the environment.

Among respondents’ priorities, crime and law enforcement issues ranked 19th.

“Even when prompted to name their top of mind crime and justice issue facing Canada, many (focus group) participants could not think of an issue they would want the federal government to focus on most,” the report states.

“Marijuana and prostitution were not mentioned at all. The top issue was making the justice system more strict . . . and putting victims of crime first in the justice system.”
 

nsbudca

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lol, have you seen the commercial on youtube? "justin trudeau wants to legalize marijuana" haha its the stupidest thing i have seen since reefer madness
 

j0yr1d3

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The Cons ignoring public opinion, say it ain't so! The majority of Canadian citizens have wanted decriminalization or legalization since the 90's. Believe it or not Canada used to be very progressive when it came to marijuana reform, we even had decriminalization for a short while where anyone could possess 15 grams without fear of jail or criminal records. Too bad with Harper running the show we've done a complete 180 and are being left behind while the rest of the world pushes forward.
 

porky501

Active Member
I don't think Canadians have much choice other than voting Liberal in 2015 since we all know Harper is an anti marijuana extremist and the New Democratic Party leader Tom Mulcair's recently saying that decriminalization would be "a mistake"
The Cons ignoring public opinion, say it ain't so! The majority of Canadian citizens have wanted decriminalization or legalization since the 90's. Believe it or not Canada used to be very progressive when it came to marijuana reform, we even had decriminalization for a short while where anyone could possess 15 grams without fear of jail or criminal records. Too bad with Harper running the show we've done a complete 180 and are being left behind while the rest of the world pushes forward.
Pot activism should be put aside for the next year and the focus should be on getting people to the voting booths.
 

WHATFG

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Pot activism should be put aside for the next year and the focus should be on getting people to the voting booths.
Anyone who wants legalization should get off their ass and get to the voting booth. Pot activism shouldn't be put to the side...it's necessary to put it out front. The second we stop making it an issue it's over.
 

particle

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I don't think Canadians have much choice other than voting Liberal in 2015 since we all know Harper is an anti marijuana extremist and the New Democratic Party leader Tom Mulcair's recently saying that decriminalization would be "a mistake"
We also know that trudeau is only saying what needs to be said in order to boost popularity. There's no more weight behind it than that, or the comparatively little risk, in this era, for a washed out party, that went into it.

In terms of milestones, it isn't a real one. So called activists really want to act like it is worth more than that, because anything else would ruin their chiseled impression of weed being a 24/7 party, which I'm not too shy to say they're serious assholes for.

I've been hearing those assholes saying it's "legal" for the last decade now, and suffering for it daily because it fucking isn't. That's just the cost of their business.
 

particle

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Anyone who wants legalization should get off their ass and get to the voting booth. Pot activism shouldn't be put to the side...it's necessary to put it out front. The second we stop making it an issue it's over.
I just love the notion that we need more clueless idiots for voting booth filler. Let's do what we can to maintain their ignorance to help with the desired result.. trudeau's got dis.

hah

I wonder if trudeau's pot talking points were also mulled over on a Jamaican rape island resort, or is it just our awesome activists that do that.
 

leaffan

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https://liberaluniversity.liberal.ca/files/2013/05/Smart-on-Crime.pdf

"Conservatives have failed
Liberals know the difference between being tough on crime and being
smart on crime. Stephen Harper keeps fighting a failed war on drugs
that only benefits organized crime and increases gang activity. Harper is
protecting their profits while failing to deal with the negative health and
social impacts of drug-related crime in communities across Canada.
We need successful policies
The billions spent have shown little results – and now as Harper spends
more of your money on mega-prisons and plans to lock up marijuana
users with hardened criminals, even U.S. Republicans are warning
Canadians not to adopt these failed American crime policies.
Liberals stand for an evidence-based crime policy
The Liberal Party of Canada believes in a smart on crime approach, targeting
real criminals instead of our youth, to keep our communities safe. Liberals
understand the need to consider ending the prohibition of marijuana and
addressing the root causes of crime to see real results."

I have seen Trudeau give a platform on the abortion issue, and I think we will see a platform on marijuana. I think it's a sincere start. Maybe I'm out to lunch?

btw...I've never voted Liberal before.
 
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