Hamas offensive against Israel

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Between the war in Ukraine where villages are completely annihilated(try to find one existing home w/a roof left) and Gaza(w/blocks upon blocks leveled),seems to me precision weaponry is over-hyped,I'm not seeing a big difference in collateral damage vs. combat 80 yrs. ago.
Precision munitions get used against military targets of high value.
When the aggressor’s objective is to make the land unlivable, artillery, gravity bombs and the other century-old weapons are just fine.
 

Sativied

Well-Known Member

Not sure how much value to attach to blaming the US for not addressing Qatar, but it should come to no surprise Qatar ain't the good guys when 6500 immigrant workers die building soccer stadiums for the world cup.

Meanwhile...
"Countries including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt could supply a combination of blue and green hydrogen to Europe "

Saudi Arabia... nuff said... Egypt, home of Muslim Brotherhood (founded in Egypt in the 1920s, the Brotherhood is one of the most influential Islamist organizations in the the world, mixing religious teaching with political....) and Qatar, sponsor of Muslim Brotherhood and its offspring Hamas.

Now if the population would be better off because of it... no, instead it just makes the rich and powerful in those areas more rich and powerful.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member

Not sure how much value to attach to blaming the US for not addressing Qatar, but it should come to no surprise Qatar ain't the good guys when 6500 immigrant workers die building soccer stadiums for the world cup.

Meanwhile...
"Countries including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt could supply a combination of blue and green hydrogen to Europe "

Saudi Arabia... nuff said... Egypt, home of Muslim Brotherhood (founded in Egypt in the 1920s, the Brotherhood is one of the most influential Islamist organizations in the the world, mixing religious teaching with political....) and Qatar, sponsor of Muslim Brotherhood and its offspring Hamas.

Now if the population would be better off because of it... no, instead it just makes the rich and powerful in those areas more rich and powerful.
It's interesting that the US maintains relationships with both sides, takes fire for it from the other side and yet, each side and not the US keeps making the situation worse.
 

CCGNZ

Well-Known Member

Not sure how much value to attach to blaming the US for not addressing Qatar, but it should come to no surprise Qatar ain't the good guys when 6500 immigrant workers die building soccer stadiums for the world cup.

Meanwhile...
"Countries including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt could supply a combination of blue and green hydrogen to Europe "

Saudi Arabia... nuff said... Egypt, home of Muslim Brotherhood (founded in Egypt in the 1920s, the Brotherhood is one of the most influential Islamist organizations in the the world, mixing religious teaching with political....) and Qatar, sponsor of Muslim Brotherhood and its offspring Hamas.

Now if the population would be better off because of it... no, instead it just makes the rich and powerful in those areas more rich and powerful.
The World Cup issue was indicative of ALL the rich gulf states concerning immigrant(slave) labor,they are all shady and were backwaters until the discovery of oil/natural gas. Saudi Arabia is a 2 headed snake,from 9/11,to the murder/dismemberment of Kashoggii,to manipulating OPEC,to funding radical Islam,all the way to the deep shade of Trump/ Kushner dealings.Because of the geo-strategic locale and effect on World economy maintaining diplomacy w/these states is a MUST and at the same time an eery dealing w/the devil feeling.If nuke tech (plants/weapons) ever make their way to this region as the Saudi's are pressing for God/Allah help us.
 

Sativied

Well-Known Member
Interesting option, per-unit sanctions.

The "Leahy Law" refers to two statutory provisions prohibiting the U.S. from funding a unit of foreign security forces where there is credible information implicating the unit in the commission of gross violations of human rights.


Could be good for everyone involved if enforced more fanatically.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Interesting option, per-unit sanctions.

The "Leahy Law" refers to two statutory provisions prohibiting the U.S. from funding a unit of foreign security forces where there is credible information implicating the unit in the commission of gross violations of human rights.


Could be good for everyone involved if enforced more fanatically.
“fanatically” has negative connotations. “Consistently” perhaps.
 
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