Great White Mycorrhizae?
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SnakeByte
Active Member
Nope but damn useful for organic grows and indoor compost...
http://www.plant-success.com/index.php/mycorrhizal-products/great-white-mycorrhizae.html
For anyone who doesn't know, it's the good bacteria that break down nutrients too complicated for plants which provides plants with the nutrients they need. Dependent on what is actually in your soil.
http://www.plant-success.com/index.php/mycorrhizal-products/great-white-mycorrhizae.html
For anyone who doesn't know, it's the good bacteria that break down nutrients too complicated for plants which provides plants with the nutrients they need. Dependent on what is actually in your soil.
August's Anemone
Member
say it can be used in hydro?
intresting..
intresting..
Rancho Cucamonga
Active Member
You can use this in both soil and hydro, doesn't even need to be full organic as microbes can live and thrive in chemical mediums to.
I have been using great white for last 6 months, it has made a remarkable difference in my grow. More noticeable in veg with faster and larger plant growth and when I transplant at day 16 or so and again into finals near day 25-30 I can see the roots are twice are thick and many as they were before I began using this.
I'm a soil guy, FFOF and full FoxFarm nute lineup, and I use GW in my mix during transplants and once in late veg and again in early flower. But during transplants I also sprinkle a good half-full scoop on soil where transplanted rootball will go. Amazing stuff anyway you look at it. I think Piranha is similar but I'm sticking with GW.
Being nobody believes anything anyone says here without a pic, here is a pic of my nutes.
Thank that foxy lady.
I have been using great white for last 6 months, it has made a remarkable difference in my grow. More noticeable in veg with faster and larger plant growth and when I transplant at day 16 or so and again into finals near day 25-30 I can see the roots are twice are thick and many as they were before I began using this.
I'm a soil guy, FFOF and full FoxFarm nute lineup, and I use GW in my mix during transplants and once in late veg and again in early flower. But during transplants I also sprinkle a good half-full scoop on soil where transplanted rootball will go. Amazing stuff anyway you look at it. I think Piranha is similar but I'm sticking with GW.
Being nobody believes anything anyone says here without a pic, here is a pic of my nutes.
Thank that foxy lady.
August's Anemone
Member
I see you got earth juice. hehe im using the sugar peak line up.
but do you notice any changes to your ph after applying GW to the medium?
but do you notice any changes to your ph after applying GW to the medium?
August's Anemone
Member
M-mhm i did!
Im even more thankful meow that i know the honch this stuff has to offer..its a win/win symbiotic relationship really. yay!
thanks RC.
btw nice nute-cubby.
Im even more thankful meow that i know the honch this stuff has to offer..its a win/win symbiotic relationship really. yay!
thanks RC.
btw nice nute-cubby.
superstoner1
Well-Known Member
It is a very good product and if I got it for free I would still use it but pondzyme is just as good at 1/4 the price and lasts much longer.
ilikecheetoes
Well-Known Member
meh i dont know if it creates bigger plants. It works good for keeping away the slime in my aerocloner though.
superstoner1
Well-Known Member
It's not for making bigger plants, it's all about making healthy roots.
superstoner1
Well-Known Member
Well, duh. I was just stating its not something that will be a big improvement in size but a more healthy happy plant.
chuck estevez
Well-Known Member
Man, i keep trying to tell people the correct way to use this stuff, but everyone wants to talk out of there ass. Great white is Bacteria used to inoculate the soil to grow a soilweb which is a fungus. You need to grow this fungus out and feed it and provide the proper environment for it to thrive, this fungus in turn breaks down nutrients into usable form for the roots to uptake them. Feeding chemical nutes does not provide for a proper environment.So you are wasting your money on a very expensive product if your using synthetic nutes. Some people are just to stubborn to admit it.
Malevolence
New Member
pondzyme is 15 bucks and treats like 8,000 gallons of water. the purpose in hydro is not to break down nutrients into a usable form... they already are. it is supposed to digest the sludge and pathogens and bits of dead root in your res to keep the roots healthy. I haven't really learned a whole lot about benes, but that's my understanding, and if I don't use benes I always get root rot.
The other option is to run bleach/h202 to keep everything sterilized. That stuff will kill benes, but synthetic nutes won't.
The other option is to run bleach/h202 to keep everything sterilized. That stuff will kill benes, but synthetic nutes won't.
Soupsah
Active Member
I use GW mix with my rooting hormone to clone and the roots are thick, white and healthy. When I transplant to either the 6 inch RW cubes for my table or hydroton for my UC I sprinkle some at the spot I am going to transplant the clones to and the roots grow with such vigorous growth that I will continue to use it with my chemical nutes.
chuck estevez
Well-Known Member
your statement tells me that you have NO CLUE what myco's do.They don't make the roots white,or thick. I am trying to save you money and you don't want to listen. A fool and his money are soon parted.
this is from great white website
What are mycorrhizae?
More than 90 percent of plant species
form a symbiotic arrangement with
benefi cial soil fungi called mycorrhizal
fungi. The roots are colonized by the soil
fungus, which attaches to the roots and
whose threads or “hyphae” extend far
into the surrounding soil environment
(fi gure 1). The colonized root is called
a mycorrhiza. Mycorrhizal fungi are the
dominant microbes in undisturbed soils
accounting for 60 percent to 80 percent
of the microbial biomass. Mycorrhizae
are fundamental for superior plant
performance, supplying the water and
nutrients needed for superior growth,
fl owering and fruiting and in exchange,
receiving essential sugars and other
compounds supplied by the plant.
Soupsah
Active Member
If you're going by what GW says than they have an application direction on the bottle for hydro as well. Have you tried using GW like I have stated. I've done it both ways and will keeping doing it my way because I see how fast roots grow and how thick they are. I retract the white statement because the roots come out white regardless. What nutrients are you using with your soil grow? You made me curious as to why it works for me and here is what I took from my research. Myco attach themselves to the root, not soil so why wouldn't it be ok in a hydro system with chem nutes. I also found that chem nutes don't kill myco, which makes sense since myco don't rely on soil but roots to feed. Myco help thicken walls of roots, which doesn't necessarily mean that roots are thicker but from my experience roots are thicker, most likely as a by product of the cell walls being thicker.
chuck estevez
Well-Known Member
Did you read the part from the website? the roots are are colonized by the SOIL FUNGI, I tried to find ANY info on there site that explains how it works in hydro, All I could find is them saying is it can help with no real explanation.
here http://www.plant-success.com/images/stories/super_feeding_article_web.pdf
all it says is it can help uptake mineral based nutes. As far as using chem nutes, this is from the very first paragraph of the book"teaming with microbes"
Smart gardeners know that soil is anything but an inert substance. Healthy soil is teeming with life not just earthworms and insects, but a staggering multitude of bacteria, fungi, and other microorganisms. When we use chemical fertilizers, we injure the microbial life that sustains healthy plants and become increasingly dependent on an arsenal of artificial, often toxic, substances. But there is an alternative to this vicious cycle. We can garden in a way that strengthens the soil food web the complex world of soil-dwelling organisms whose interactions create a nurturing environment for plants.
Teaming with Microbes extols the benefits of cultivating the soil food web. First, it clearly explains the activities and organisms that make up the web. Next, it explains how gardeners can cultivate the life of the soil through the use of compost, mulches, and compost tea. The revised edition updates the original text and includes two completely new chapters on mycorrhizae (beneficial associations fungi form with green-leaved plants) and archaea (single-celled organisms once thought to be allied to bacteria).
superstoner1
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Give it up chuck, you're fighting with people who have had good to great success using these products. Just because someone doesn't do it exactly like you do or like whatever you read doesn't mean it doesn't work. I have personally talked to people at 3 different manufactures of Bennies and there is a ton more info than what is posted, they do work great in hydro. They do live off the sugars and carbs in the nutes and they make it much easier for the roots to absorb elements. Stop trying to sound so condescending and accept the facts.
chuck estevez
Well-Known Member
sorry for trying to educate and save you some money. The product does work, but should be used properly for optimal results. It is a very expensive product to just throw in your resi and then just kill it off with some chem nutes.
But hey, your a superstoner who has 3 friends.
I asked 3 manufactures if THERE lights were the best, they all said YES, so confused as to which one is. LMFAO
