Getting too big

danno48 · Sep 10, 2010

I have three girls growing in a 2X4X5.5 closet and one is already at 32 inches (plant height, not including the pot). Just started budding about 4 days ago. I'm running out of room fast, both vertically and laterally. I know LST'ing is the logical answer (without having seen my grow space obviously), but I really don't even have enough room to LST them. Should I trim, trim, trim or what (I'm thinking not)?

danno48 · Sep 10, 2010

By the way, I've stopped the high nitrogen food (Grow Big) and have them on Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom only. Can I expect them to stop vegging and just pumping out buds? How much bigger can I expect? Any way to control vegetative growth through nutes?

Dreadheadgrow · Sep 10, 2010

They will still stretch some over the next couple of weeks. Can you do scrog? put a grid of clotheslines at the canopy and lst them to just take up the screen

shnkrmn · Sep 10, 2010

You can come out of the closet or just suffer the consequences. Actually, you should trim as many of the lower branches that are giving you lateral issues as you can. For the tops you can bend them over and even break them a little bit this early in flowering.

tranquility · Sep 10, 2010

its kinda hard to know how your plant will grow with out the coniditions its under.
what light are you using?
is it mostly indica or sativa?
do you know the names of the plants? genetics?
if lst-ing doesnt work out for you i would top them
you should also throw up some pics if you can
peace

rastakolnikov · Sep 10, 2010

If you've just started 12/12 it may at least double in size before it's done.
You can tie down as much as possible, or 'supercrop'(snap) the branches to try and make them grow sideways (only if you can't tie down).
As a last resort you can chop it shorter but thats best done as early as possible to try to avoid excessive loss of yield.

At least you know to switch them over earlier next time. I made the same mistake on my new Jack flash, it's keeping me up at night thinking of ways to keep it from growing through the ceiling :lol:

danno48 · Sep 10, 2010

tranquility said:
its kinda hard to know how your plant will grow with out the coniditions its under.
what light are you using?
is it mostly indica or sativa?
do you know the names of the plants? genetics?
if lst-ing doesnt work out for you i would top them
you should also throw up some pics if you can
peace

400W HPS. Crystal Rain (60/40 Indica to Sativa ratio). Here are some pics although the space is so confined and taking the photos under HPS doesn't really give that good of a perspective.

danno48 · Sep 10, 2010

Oops, forgot the photos. Here they are:

danno48 · Sep 10, 2010

rastakolnikov said:
If you've just started 12/12 it may at least double in size before it's done.
You can tie down as much as possible, or 'supercrop'(snap) the branches to try and make them grow sideways (only if you can't tie down).
As a last resort you can chop it shorter but thats best done as early as possible to try to avoid excessive loss of yield.

At least you know to switch them over earlier next time. I made the same mistake on my new Jack flash, it's keeping me up at night thinking of ways to keep it from growing through the ceiling

I'm starting to think supercropping might be my best option, however, I'd be quite nervous about doing it. Perhaps I'll just sacrifice one plant for the space (damn, that would hurt, lol). "Coming out of the closet" would be hard to accomplish. As it was, I 12/12'd them at 4 weeks, even before they showed sexual maturity. Took them one week to show pistils and one more plus to start throwing buds. Probably should have started with a less "hardy" strain but I guess we live and learn. Too bad I don't know any good parents to give one up for adoption, lol.

shnkrmn · Sep 10, 2010

You could think of it this way; your space is fixed. If two plants completely fill it and you need the room it's logical to ditch the third. If you grow them too crowded you'll just get a lot of second-rate bud probably less weight than if you go with two nicely spaced plants.

nice plants, anyhow..

danno48 · Sep 10, 2010

shnkrmn said:
You could think of it this way; your space is fixed. If two plants completely fill it and you need the room it's logical to ditch the third. If you grow them too crowded you'll just get a lot of second-rate bud probably less weight than if you go with two nicely spaced plants.

nice plants, anyhow..

Thank you for confirming what I'm sure is the inevitable solution. I wonder if the one I select would have a chance in hell if I were to go stick her out it the woods somewhere and hope for the best. Probably a more humane end for it than just jerking it up and trashing it. At least it could have a chance if I were to do so, lol. Where I live, it is probably the perfect time of year to do just that. I think it might be five or six more weeks before our first frost. Do indoor plants at this stage have a chance of surviving a transplantation outdoors?

shnkrmn · Sep 12, 2010

Not sure where you are, but you would have had a better chance outdoors most places if you had your plant outside by the middle of August. If it goes 6 weeks flowering outdoors before a hard freeze you won't get good finished bud, but you could make hash or butter from it. Have a nice pan of brownies.

These ended up growing up to the lights. I don't grow anything bigger than 30 inches now. Lesson learned. Success comes from having everything just right, not going balls to the wall every time.

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danno48 · Sep 13, 2010

Yep, lesson learned alright. If I ever do this again, I'm going 12/12 from the get go. That or I'll grow outdoors next time. Problem where I live is that we have too many variables concerning the outdoor thing. LOTS of fucking critters, bored people that wonder why you keep going back to the same outdoor place every day, etc, etc. Never mind the ignorant pigs. Where I live has the absolute worst penalties for growing. I just wish these fucks would wake up. I'm really only doing this as a hobby and have zero intention of selling or making a single dollar off the shit. I just want some good shit to smoke and to hand out as Christmas presents to people I care about.

asaph · Sep 13, 2010

two important issues:

1. i also think supercropping is the best way to go right now. you still have lots of room there. well not lots, but you can pull it off. if you do supercrop, make sure to tie them down afterwards, otherwise they'll be back up there within a week, as if you haven't supercropped them. I think that with some fine tuning you can maneuver all three to have their place, it won't be easy but definitely be worth it, using a screen or supercropping then tying will allow you to create a vertical maze of cola-producing node sites - it's not too late for that yet.

2. whatever you do - don't throw away a plant before it is absolutely necessary, or before it clearly starts damaging and reducing overall production. Even if you are forced to harvest it in 3 or 6 weeks from now, you could still get a nice smoke from it, with interesting results in regard to the final product (they say that early harvest gives you a head high rather than the usual indica couch-lock).

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