Germinated seed, bubbleponics, new hydro set up

BongboyMMA

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Hey guys so I've been lurking around here just reading for months. I'm going to go with my first hydro grow. I have some beans coming but until then I decided to germ 2 bag seems I had just to get my bearings with the whole hydro thing. Anyway... I made a small 8 site bubble cloner and have seen people put the taproot directly into the neoprine collar and start them out right in there.

My question is... How high up should the water be in the res? Should the tap root be sitting in the water or just above it and the splashing bubbles get it wet?

Also I am only going to veg for a very short period to keep the flower night down. (have aprox 3ft from the top of the buckets to the light) and the top half of the closet is split for the veg/clone at about 1' growing room.

The goal to start is for 2 plants to be going into flower every 4 weeks. Under 400hps and a few cfls and eventually increase that to add another 2 so I can harvest every 2-3 weeks.

Should I have 2 bubble cloners 1 to clone and 1 to use for a 2 weekish veg that will have nuts in it?

Thanks very much I've read as much as possible and searched like crazy before asking any questions
 
I just got into starting seeds in neoprene. I germ in a bag and wait till the tap root gets long, I have thing neoprene sleeves so I just rest the seed on the top of the neoprene and snake the taproot down and just put into a netcup and let the taproot touch the water just a bit and let the bubbles do the work.

You're really limited for height. You wanna be about 8-10inches the closest with that 400W if its air cooled. Id go 12-16 if its not. Thats like a 1ft 8inch plant. Once you get a mom establish and healthy id run a week or two in an aerocloner to establish roots then go right to flower, and cut small clones. Try and get a short breed that doesn't stretch a lot in flower, most indicas would do that. But even still it would 170%-200% increase in size. So you have to switch to flower on a 9 inch plant.

I'd use bag seeds until you get it down. I lost a lot of plants switching to hydro, but i've never grown in soil so I was new to it all.
 
Thanks a lot for the reply. I was only looking to get this one started in neoprine bc my hydroton didn't get here yet. I actually just snakes the tap root through a piece of foam and have it floating right now with a 13w 6500k cfl and hopefully I can find a local nurses that has some medium

And yup this is totally a practice run with a bag seed hopefully my buddy gets the real ones out to me soon. Said he's got 6 Buddha cheeses coming my way. Yes air cooled but thinking I'm gonna order a 250w instead and supp another 200 in cfls so I can throw in a few 6500k too and keep temps down. It's a 4x2x8 room and I'm going to dedicate the top for veg clone and momma.
I was planing in on only vegging up to when I can mainline her then through it into flower. Question: can I grow it in the small bubbleponics cloner I made? Since my netpots didn't come either I will use a cup with lots of holes and put that into the cloner with the taproot pointed down and hydroton. Can I go from this right to flower or will I need nuts during such a short veg.
 
As soon as you have roots you should be supplying nutrients.

I usually start off with about .6EC -- about 1/4-1/3 strength of what the bottle recommends.

Ive had strains that grew so quickly they were quite large in the cloner about 12-16 inches, I just didn't have enough room in flower for them. So I wouldn't see why not.
 
Thanks a lot for the advice, I've grown in soil but this is a whole new world.

I was actually gonna ask;
I don't have roots yet still just the tap root.

I germinated in a wet paper towel and tuberware that I would open up everyday to let some air in and see if it popped. I scarfed it first it popped next day 3 days later had about 1 1/2 taproot. Bc this was just for shits and giggles and to really make sure I can still germinate (been a long time) I just cut a piece of foam and snaked the root through and had it sitting in the res with the air stones. I left other foam in the res to block the light... 1 13watt(actual) 6500k cfl 24" away day 1 day 2 dropped it to 12" day 3 6" day 4 I added another 13watt cfl. Cut a hole in the lid used a cup with the bottom cut out mostly and put the foam with the seedling and tap snaked through in that and have the water just touching the tap root (which goes down then loops up and stays on the on the bottom of the foam. I was expecting this to go straight down and other roots start show up. The seed is still on the piece of taproot.

Did I do something wrong? I know it's a super jimmy ridged set up but it should still work. I mean I've had leaves sprout from soil after a few days in a plastic cup. I pushed the whole tap root through and only had the seed hitting the light, this is how I saw people do it in neoprine collars I just used foam instead.
Thanks in advance
 
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