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Thread starter DND
Start date Mar 28, 2008

DND

Well-Known Member

#1

Well in the last six months I have ordered seeds from the seed boutique 3 times. I always have no issues with this until today. Some lady from my bank calls and says she calling to make sure there is no fraudulent activity going on with my account because there have been several authorizations overseas with SBN Epsom and did I authorize them. I say yes, explain no detail and hang up.

Now normally I wouldn't give a shit because I used to live in a bigger city and bank workers wouldn't care because they are too busy, unless of course it was a huge amount or whatever. Now I live in a little town with around 10K people and everyone knows everyone. I'm concerned because this lady could easily Google "SBN Epsom" and know right away what I was ordering or assume anyway. I'm sure if she did this she would contact the police and tip them off. I know I broke the rule of ordering to my house/grow address, but it was my only option. I have one plant going now and it's just being used to clone off of till I can get them outside. She has 14 or so clones ready to be rooted, but I want to wait till she can supply around 30 or so.

What should I do? Scrap everything and lay low for a while? I was thinking about cutting the clones and starting them, if they came to bust me I could easily flush them rather than my huge 2' mother.

BIGSIX

Well-Known Member

#2

i really wouldnt sweat it, thats a standard procedure alot of credit card companies and what not do to protect their customers, they were just making sure that since they dont normally see an overseas transaction on your card, that it was you using it, not someone else.

40acres

New Member

#3

You are assuming this lady cares enough about you at the end of the day to google it.I knwo when i have to deal with the public all day, i am just glad to be away from them.

DND

Well-Known Member

#4

40acres said:
You are assuming this lady cares enough about you at the end of the day to google it.I knwo when i have to deal with the public all day, i am just glad to be away from them.

I was, paranoia will do that.

SocataSmoker

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#5

Paranoia, will destroy ya!

lucky182

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#6

I say don't worry either.... They probably charged the card at the same time u used it to buy something at home, and they wondered how you were in two places at once then checked and noticed that u don't have a history of making overseas purchases.... They didn't look into what yu were buying.. They would have called if it were a pair of shoes...

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FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half

#7

You broke every rule to ordering seeds you should be worried. You ordered them to your own address you live ta and to make it worst grow at. You used your own actual card to order which is another big non no. You did it several times overseas which alerts banks and government watch dogs as oversea transfers can be looked t under the patriot act as possible terristic activity which makes following the money legal.You also bought from nirvana which has been getting popped every other order the last 2 years so they have had some bad success and they are now high on the watch list.I thought you knew better

lucky182

Well-Known Member

#8

FilthyFletch said:
You broke every rule to ordering seeds you should be worried. You ordered them to your own address you live ta and to make it worst grow at. You used your own actual card to order which is another big non no. You did it several times overseas which alerts banks and government watch dogs as oversea transfers can be looked t under the patriot act as possible terristic activity which makes following the money legal.You also bought from nirvana which has been getting popped every other order the last 2 years so they have had some bad success and they are now high on the watch list.I thought you knew better

I know of somebody who actually had the credit card company go after a seed company for failure to deliver and got their money back 3 months later after tons of calls and they grew and had no problems at all... They even asked what the purchase was and they said seeds... didn't specify what kind, but they didn't care... so I don't believe the watchdog theory so much, but I am also in Canada....

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Corso312

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#9

relax bro..that woman at bank...she doesnt give a rat's ass about u or your seeds.....to her it is merely another transaction that she must verify do to high credit card fraud rampant world wide...now i ordered seeds 2 years ago and it was my first time ever doin it ok......2 weeks go by and i am pissed i am thinkin those scumbags fucked me out of 200$.... so i call my bank...i say i ordered somethin online..it never came i need to cancel transaction .....they said no problem we will send u paper work in mail to fill out and credit your account i say cool and chalk it up as a lesson not to trust a seed bank...... however 2 days later i get home from work...seeds are in mailbox...now i assumed i would receive paperwork in mail from bank or visa to void transaction..paperwork never came so i figured transaction wouldnt be cancelled until i signed paperwork but transaction was voided without any paperwork and i get a call from seed bank on phone few days later i am at work at time on coffee break and he starts talkin shit right away sayin hey u cancelled order we sent seeds ...now my intention was to tell this guy hey just go ahead and run it through again and i will tell bank tis ok..but dude is sayin " u fucked us we are sendin your information to dea" after he said that i interupted him and said go fuck yourself and now u wont get a dime scumbag tryin to threaten me and get tough on phone...this whole conversation took less than 2 minutes and i am not a prick i dont ask for handouts and i am not out to fuck anybody over...so bottom line nothin ever happened....10's of thousands of people make over seas transactions daily in this country...nobody can monitor them or try to because 95% of them are legal purchases... so chill and good luck with the plants

themoose

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#10

couldn't of said better myself. :peace:

:peace:

Corso312 said:
relax bro..that woman at bank...she doesnt give a rat's ass about u or your seeds.....to her it is merely another transaction that she must verify do to high credit card fraud rampant world wide...now i ordered seeds 2 years ago and it was my first time ever doin it ok......2 weeks go by and i am pissed i am thinkin those scumbags fucked me out of 200$.... so i call my bank...i say i ordered somethin online..it never came i need to cancel transaction .....they said no problem we will send u paper work in mail to fill out and credit your account i say cool and chalk it up as a lesson not to trust a seed bank...... however 2 days later i get home from work...seeds are in mailbox...now i assumed i would receive paperwork in mail from bank or visa to void transaction..paperwork never came so i figured transaction wouldnt be cancelled until i signed paperwork but transaction was voided without any paperwork and i get a call from seed bank on phone few days later i am at work at time on coffee break and he starts talkin shit right away sayin hey u cancelled order we sent seeds ...now my intention was to tell this guy hey just go ahead and run it through again and i will tell bank tis ok..but dude is sayin " u fucked us we are sendin your information to dea" after he said that i interupted him and said go fuck yourself and now u wont get a dime scumbag tryin to threaten me and get tough on phone...this whole conversation took less than 2 minutes and i am not a prick i dont ask for handouts and i am not out to fuck anybody over...so bottom line nothin ever happened....10's of thousands of people make over seas transactions daily in this country...nobody can monitor them or try to because 95% of them are legal purchases... so chill and good luck with the plants

DND

Well-Known Member

#11

FilthyFletch said:
You broke every rule to ordering seeds you should be worried. You ordered them to your own address you live ta and to make it worst grow at. You used your own actual card to order which is another big non no. You did it several times overseas which alerts banks and government watch dogs as oversea transfers can be looked t under the patriot act as possible terristic activity which makes following the money legal.You also bought from nirvana which has been getting popped every other order the last 2 years so they have had some bad success and they are now high on the watch list.I thought you knew better

Yeah I know Fletch, I got comfortable to say the least. It won't be my last seed order, but next time I will defiantly use a prepaid card and ship to another addy. I didn't use Nirvana per say, but used the seed boutique which is located in the UK and had no problems thus far. Hopefully nothing comes of this and lesson learned, but if not I'm prepared as best as I can be.

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half

#12

lol and now you know not to be comfortable. I always say that you need to stay right on the edge of paranoid to be safe.Dont over trip but be just about ready to panic at all times.Some missed the point on using your own credit card. Its not that the card company cares but you leave a nice trail for customs to follw and then later a perfect trail for an indictment to show you illeaglly imported contraband to the US and then it makes it a federal offense since credit and debit cards are backed by the FDIC so you basically add 35 more years to your cases if they decide to go that route and it makes it easy for them to obtain a warrant for where the seeds get delivered so if its grow address or an address drugs may be in you screwed yourself. The worry isnt the credit card lady but the bigger picture..Come on guys think a little bit now lol

jumifera

Well-Known Member

#13

you shouldnt really be sweating it beacause in the fisrt place you gave them no reason to investigate your purchases.

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half

#14

Except its all over seas purchases that are not the everyday purchase which if your not in the US a little thing called the patriot act requires notification of out of the ordinary overseas money transaction. Sucks yup but it helps and it hurts cuz it keeps us safe but is such a blanket law

DND

Well-Known Member

#15

FilthyFletch said:
lol and now you know not to be comfortable. I always say that you need to stay right on the edge of paranoid to be safe.Dont over trip but be just about ready to panic at all times.Some missed the point on using your own credit card. Its not that the card company cares but you leave a nice trail for customs to follw and then later a perfect trail for an indictment to show you illeaglly imported contraband to the US and then it makes it a federal offense since credit and debit cards are backed by the FDIC so you basically add 35 more years to your cases if they decide to go that route and it makes it easy for them to obtain a warrant for where the seeds get delivered so if its grow address or an address drugs may be in you screwed yourself. The worry isnt the credit card lady but the bigger picture..Come on guys think a little bit now lol

Exactly...lesson learned. It is a damn shame that a few seeds can lead to this shit though. Come on cannabis legalization!

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