Fresh transplant - death is near.

I am new to outdoors. Ive been doing indoors for some time now, and i cannot wrap my head around this issue.

I had some extra clones that were 80 days old when i transplanted (obviously the other indoor ones are doing fantastic). I dug holes that took about 15 gallons of roots organic each. 2 days later they start wilting and weakening, leaves dropping.

I am running a self irrigation system so i am watering them multiple times a day, as its been really dry where i am at. Night time temps are 60-65 degrees, daytime temps are 70-80.

After i started noticing this, i gave them a slight foliar feed and it seemed to have stalled the issue for now, but it would be nice to know wtf is going on.

looks like it could be sun and wind burn (dessacation) cover them with a shade cloth for a few days first then give the full sun next time ... it will prbly pull thru but they need pampering when first put out . the sun is so drying too so a little extera water dont hurt too...

SJ KOrganic said:

I am new to outdoors. Ive been doing indoors for some time now, and i cannot wrap my head around this issue.

I had some extra clones that were 80 days old when i transplanted (obviously the other indoor ones are doing fantastic). I dug holes that took about 15 gallons of roots organic each. 2 days later they start wilting and weakening, leaves dropping.

I am running a self irrigation system so i am watering them multiple times a day, as its been really dry where i am at. Night time temps are 60-65 degrees, daytime temps are 70-80.

After i started noticing this, i gave them a slight foliar feed and it seemed to have stalled the issue for now, but it would be nice to know wtf is going on.

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They need hardened off just like all vegetable plants before you put them in your garden. Put them outside under a tree or something shady for about 10 -14 days.

looks like overwatering and a touch of mildew, cut back on the watering so much

SJ KOrganic said:

I am new to outdoors. Ive been doing indoors for some time now, and i cannot wrap my head around this issue.

I had some extra clones that were 80 days old when i transplanted (obviously the other indoor ones are doing fantastic). I dug holes that took about 15 gallons of roots organic each. 2 days later they start wilting and weakening, leaves dropping.

I am running a self irrigation system so i am watering them multiple times a day, as its been really dry where i am at. Night time temps are 60-65 degrees, daytime temps are 70-80.

After i started noticing this, i gave them a slight foliar feed and it seemed to have stalled the issue for now, but it would be nice to know wtf is going on.

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yeah no need for multiple day waters id say they are getting too much. they are way too little and young for multi daily waterings.. 60 is getting pretty cool for little ones also ... like johnny said they should have been hardened before planting..just taking them out daily to get used to the new environment.. then a few nights after you can leave it out to get used to the night weather.. then transplant outside.. but slow down on the water till they grow and spread .. once daily (if its dry and hot) or bi daily if not... remember the 60 temps means your ground is getting really cold at night and your roots are having to reheat especially when your keep the soil so wet it adds to the cold and adds to the time it takes to reheat the soil... which in return heats the roots and speeds growth.. the droop you see if from too much water the leaves should be up and perky.

SJ KOrganic said:

I am new to outdoors. Ive been doing indoors for some time now, and i cannot wrap my head around this issue.

I had some extra clones that were 80 days old when i transplanted (obviously the other indoor ones are doing fantastic). I dug holes that took about 15 gallons of roots organic each. 2 days later they start wilting and weakening, leaves dropping.

I am running a self irrigation system so i am watering them multiple times a day, as its been really dry where i am at. Night time temps are 60-65 degrees, daytime temps are 70-80.

After i started noticing this, i gave them a slight foliar feed and it seemed to have stalled the issue for now, but it would be nice to know wtf is going on.

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when your watering multi daily waterings are u just using water for that or is each water getting food added to the plant also?

the only reason i even ask that is because of the dying leaves and the burns they show..just the odd white ones are clearly not that.. but joedank could be right that could be the cause of wind burn especially if its getting windy at night with lower temps....

Looks like ph fluctuation combined with Over watering.

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powdery mildew...

The way the top leaves are drying but the lower growth seems okay makes me think it's probably heat stress from the sun. What type of light was it under before the sun?

I know its not PH fluctation, ive tested the soil before hand. Like i said, its in roughly 15 gallons of roots organic (recycled super soil to be exact) so im hoping thats not it but i really appreciate the advice none the less.

As far as the first 80 days of the plant itself, it was spent under a T5HO. I did not do any "hardening" of any kind so this likely may be the cause.

johnny961 said:

They need hardened off just like all vegetable plants before you put them in your garden. Put them outside under a tree or something shady for about 10 -14 days.

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So i should keep them in their original pots for these 10-14 days before putting them in the ground?

phil k said:

when your watering multi daily waterings are u just using water for that or is each water getting food added to the plant also?

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Only foliar fed 1 time with Bioweed 5ml / liter and some Dutch Master Saturator after this started happening.

R1b3n4 said:

looks like overwatering and a touch of mildew, cut back on the watering so much

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I have only been watering about 1-2 times a day. Its a self irrigation system so all i do is turn on the hose and bam! Its 1/4 line and its ran for about 5-10 minutes at a time. So i would safely assume 1 gallon per minute. It hasnt rained in weeks here and the soil was dry about 6 inches deep so thats the only reason i did that. I never knew you could over water outside in-ground? What happens when it rains all week, ya know....Thats way more water than i gave it.

Oh as far as the mildew, there isn't any. They were just really white lol. So wind burn? Sun burn? Very reasonable to me.

SJ KOrganic said:

Oh as far as the mildew, there isn't any. They were just really white lol. So wind burn? Sun burn? Very reasonable to me.

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SJ KOrganic said:

I know its not PH fluctation, ive tested the soil before hand. Like i said, its in roughly 15 gallons of roots organic (recycled super soil to be exact) so im hoping thats not it but i really appreciate the advice none the less.

As far as the first 80 days of the plant itself, it was spent under a T5HO. I did not do any "hardening" of any kind so this likely may be the cause.



So i should keep them in their original pots for these 10-14 days before putting them in the ground?



Only foliar fed 1 time with Bioweed 5ml / liter and some Dutch Master Saturator after this started happening.



I have only been watering about 1-2 times a day. Its a self irrigation system so all i do is turn on the hose and bam! Its 1/4 line and its ran for about 5-10 minutes at a time. So i would safely assume 1 gallon per minute. It hasnt rained in weeks here and the soil was dry about 6 inches deep so thats the only reason i did that. I never knew you could over water outside in-ground? What happens when it rains all week, ya know....Thats way more water than i gave it.

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yes keep them in the normal pots when hardening

so your foliar feeding every day?? am i understanding that?
if thats the case you should only be using foliar once a week and honestly id stop foliar complete freaking waste of money. if your plants are healthy you don't need foliar feeds and treatments.. healthy plants naturally produce wax coatings.

but the point isn't what happens if it rains all week.. what happens if you soak them all week then it pours for the next seven days and their soil is solid mud? plants don't need water everyday they need a break from watering so their roots can search out food and water and eland your growth.. if your constantly feeding and watering the roots have no need to spread and seek water/food.. but moreover what happens to your skin when you sit in a bath tub for 2 hours? think about what happens to roots when they sit in soggy soil for a month... what health benefit is there to soaking the soil two times a day? you can't even drink a gallon of water a day easily why would a plant be up taking that much daily..

i water 600ml every other day to my two gallons... 800-1000ml every other day to my fives indoors.... when i grow outside in michigan where its always fucking wet.. i maybe feed a gallon every other day to every three days to my 10 gallon flowers... unless they show signs of needing more......

SJ KOrganic said:

I know its not PH fluctation, ive tested the soil before hand. Like i said, its in roughly 15 gallons of roots organic (recycled super soil to be exact) so im hoping thats not it but i really appreciate the advice none the less.

As far as the first 80 days of the plant itself, it was spent under a T5HO. I did not do any "hardening" of any kind so this likely may be the cause.



So i should keep them in their original pots for these 10-14 days before putting them in the ground?



Only foliar fed 1 time with Bioweed 5ml / liter and some Dutch Master Saturator after this started happening.



I have only been watering about 1-2 times a day. Its a self irrigation system so all i do is turn on the hose and bam! Its 1/4 line and its ran for about 5-10 minutes at a time. So i would safely assume 1 gallon per minute. It hasnt rained in weeks here and the soil was dry about 6 inches deep so thats the only reason i did that. I never knew you could over water outside in-ground? What happens when it rains all week, ya know....Thats way more water than i gave it.

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and you have to understand rainfall per square inch compared to a irrigation line dumping all the water in one spot is way different...everything around your plant has roots underground utilizing the rain fall... rai doesn't say in the top or mid soil area long because there isn't a mass amount in one share inch its more wide spread


and if it does rain all week your plants will react to that and i promise you'll see drooping then too... the plants are just too young for all that water

If you had them under fleuros (T5/T then once taken outside make sure to harden them off first..even if it means few hours first day in shade then thd next day a full day in shade etc...if under hps plants arent as fussy when put outside