Founding Fathers Genetics - tigard farms

oodawg

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So in the end all was good. Why some read this thread, place an order then proceed to catastrophise is wild.

Thinking about popping some if the freebies I got from him to run indoor now that the temps have dropped. @dr.panda how would you compare the secret sevice vs the AF1 x Obama? They are reversed polled donors of the same cross correct? Are the buds, smokes distinguishable from each other?
 

Cannaclysmic Events

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every time I click on this thread thats all I see is posts about this guys shitty customer service and the same people running to his defense lol

yall are even blaming the customer now smh

theres no incentive for him to improve his customer service if yall just gonna defend him and keep spending money with him
Dude it's surreal, I feel like I stepped into a weird Twilight Zone episode where the customer has to both buy the product and and ship it for the seller, or assume responsibility for it being late. What in the actual fuck is wrong with these people's understanding of business transactions. I'm still floored by the statement "it's at least half your fault"

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Cannaclysmic Events

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I think we can all agree It's definitely cannas fault for thinking RB would actually send what he paid for in a timely manner /s . Anyone else who orders should do so with the understanding that dude might not send out what you paid for.

Sounds like dealing with GLO lol
I can't tell if your serious or facetious.... For what it's worth, I had no idea there was a track record of poor shipping and service. I found this thread well after I ordered, my first with FF. I had no reason to suspect any thing of the sort at the time. Been smoking on his gear from the dispo here and there and liked it, wanted to work with it so away I went. Should probably screen new vendors here before I do that. Again though, killer genetics, linked up with CSI, why would I suspect anything out of pocket? I really don't feel like it's GLO 2.0, feels more like old organic dude not keeping up so well with new tech. But what do I know
 

Cannaclysmic Events

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Of course it’s his fault the order is late. It’s your fault for making your plans based around the order arriving on time. You could have simply read the thread to know your seeds arriving on time was a dubious prospect.
For what it's worth, I had no idea there was a track record of poor shipping and service. I found this thread well after I ordered, my first with FF. I had no reason to suspect any thing of the sort at the time. Been smoking on his gear from the dispo here and there and liked it, wanted to work with it so away I went. Should probably screen new vendors here before I do that. Again though, killer genetics, linked up with CSI, why would I suspect anything out of pocket?

But the real question is, why in the f#$$ are you so bent on assigning blame to an event you have absolutely nothing to do with, and have no dog in the race? That goes double for the first chap that commented to blame me for relying on a seed order, its your fault... blah, blah, blah. Seriously, you should take a big step back and ask yourself that question, because I'll be straight with you, where likely your parents were not, you sound like a dick. Are you that prick, the one that finds joy in pouring salt in people's wounds, throws a brick to guy drowning instead of the float it was holding down, probably hold a grudge longer than the Bible too. Seriously, there was absolutely no need to even introduce that finger pointing shit, and LOADED WITH FALLACY AND ASSUMPTIONS, that you can only be projecting your own lack of productivity and regret on to this situation. Not only dickish, but basic as fuuuuuuuck. Maybe hash that shit out with a therapist next time dude.
 

MannyPacs

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I can't tell if your serious or facetious.... For what it's worth, I had no idea there was a track record of poor shipping and service. I found this thread well after I ordered, my first with FF. I had no reason to suspect any thing of the sort at the time. Been smoking on his gear from the dispo here and there and liked it, wanted to work with it so away I went. Should probably screen new vendors here before I do that. Again though, killer genetics, linked up with CSI, why would I suspect anything out of pocket? I really don't feel like it's GLO 2.0, feels more like old organic dude not keeping up so well with new tech. But what do I know
Bro /s means sarcasm. I was saying it's bullshit to blame you. Rusty at cannaventure is a great example of how old guys can do it right if they actually wanna to... I've got actual love for that dude. I really wish there were more Rusty's in the world.

This shit is exactly like glo for what is worth. Fast as hell to take your payment... Can't even respond to basic inquiries after they receive payment... Then you just wait an wait and wait and hope the freebies make the hassle worth it. That's the glo way lol
 

Cannaclysmic Events

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Bro /s means sarcasm. I was saying it's bullshit to blame you. Rusty at cannaventure is a great example of how old guys can do it right if they actually wanna to... I've got actual love for that dude. I really wish there were more Rusty's in the world.

This shit is exactly like glo for what is worth. Fast as hell to take your payment... Can't even respond to basic inquiries after they receive payment... Then you just wait an wait and wait and hope the freebies make the hassle worth it. That's the glo way lol
I'm gonna have to check out Cannadventure. I browse his selections all the time just never pulled the trigger. I'm late to the game after taking some "Strongly advised
 
1 Month later and finally something arrives from FF, got a 16 pack Secret Service, that's it. Not what we agreed upon, nothing for the wait. I don't even feel like saying anything. It was supposed to be 3 packs for price of 2, maybe a little something for being 25 days beyond 3-6, nope. Grabbed some of the TK S1 from Caleb today. That's it, I'm done. I got a ton of good shit. If I put a few males in my room or even just dust some pollen I'll easily have more than I can hunt in my life.
 

Cannaclysmic Events

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Ok, the ordeal is complete, beans delivered.

There are very few times in one's life where someone stretches your patience about as thin as it can go, then actually pulls some legendary shit off to totally redeems themselves. This is one of those times. I put some negative in the vapors, it's important to put the positive out there as well. It was frustrating, but I will admit worth it in the end, Additionally, I wouldn't let my experience persuade anyone from ordering his gear, maybe just factor more time for delivery in than I did.
 

Cannaclysmic Events

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Ok, the ordeal is complete, beans delivered.

There are very few times in one's life where someone stretches your patience about as thin as it can go, then actually pulls some legendary shit off to totally redeems themselves. This is one of those times. I put some negative in the vapors, it's important to put the positive out there as well. It was frustrating, but I will admit worth it in the end, Additionally, I wouldn't let my experience persuade anyone away from ordering his gear, maybe just factor more time for delivery in than I did.
 
Ok, the ordeal is complete, beans delivered.

There are very few times in one's life where someone stretches your patience about as thin as it can go, then actually pulls some legendary shit off to totally redeems themselves. This is one of those times. I put some negative in the vapors, it's important to put the positive out there as well. It was frustrating, but I will admit worth it in the end, Additionally, I wouldn't let my experience persuade anyone from ordering his gear, maybe just factor more time for delivery in than I did.
Glad everything finally worked out for you. Sorry you got sent for such a loop. I really didn't care about waiting, I just didn't feel like my order was in very good hands. A couple weeks in I was looking at the email chain and realized he never got my address, so I didn't have much faith in the order being remembered at all, no invoice, no payment record, no responses. I emailed my addy, with the email chain attached. Another week, no response. Emailed again and getting kinda pissed, I said he should stick to breeding and have someone, anyone else handle sales and shipping. A few days after that he contacts me saying he lost his phone, got locked out of his email, yet somehow had my email address and asked if I got my order. Said no and included the email thread from ordering. Another 10 days go by and I get 2 packs of one thing I ordered and nothing else, was supposed to be 3 different packs. So he said he'd do 3 for the price of 2, DIDN'T, said orders ship in 3-6 days, NOPE and sent me a screwed up order. How did he make things good with you?

Caleb ended up sending an extra pack of TK, a pack of Pure OG Kush x TK, 2 packs of Mendo Purps S1s and 15 of the PCK. He got my payment on a Thurs, I got my seeds on that Tue.

I guess technically I got exactly what I paid for with Red, though not what we agreed upon, had to Venmo some chick to pay him and had no idea if he was alive or dead for over 30 days. IF his genetics end up being the greatest thing since rolling papers, I'll find somewhere else to order them. The weed market is pretty rough for farmers in Oregon, if you're in the weed game and you have people sending you $, you should probably try to do right by them. I shout Caleb's name from every hilltop, every chance I get, people don't even believe me about how well he treats customers. I ain't gonna flame Red, because he did do the absolute minimum in the slowest time possible, but I'll never tell anyone to send money to him.
 

Bodyne

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Glad everything finally worked out for you. Sorry you got sent for such a loop. I really didn't care about waiting, I just didn't feel like my order was in very good hands. A couple weeks in I was looking at the email chain and realized he never got my address, so I didn't have much faith in the order being remembered at all, no invoice, no payment record, no responses. I emailed my addy, with the email chain attached. Another week, no response. Emailed again and getting kinda pissed, I said he should stick to breeding and have someone, anyone else handle sales and shipping. A few days after that he contacts me saying he lost his phone, got locked out of his email, yet somehow had my email address and asked if I got my order. Said no and included the email thread from ordering. Another 10 days go by and I get 2 packs of one thing I ordered and nothing else, was supposed to be 3 different packs. So he said he'd do 3 for the price of 2, DIDN'T, said orders ship in 3-6 days, NOPE and sent me a screwed up order. How did he make things good with you?

Caleb ended up sending an extra pack of TK, a pack of Pure OG Kush x TK, 2 packs of Mendo Purps S1s and 15 of the PCK. He got my payment on a Thurs, I got my seeds on that Tue.

I guess technically I got exactly what I paid for with Red, though not what we agreed upon, had to Venmo some chick to pay him and had no idea if he was alive or dead for over 30 days. IF his genetics end up being the greatest thing since rolling papers, I'll find somewhere else to order them. The weed market is pretty rough for farmers in Oregon, if you're in the weed game and you have people sending you $, you should probably try to do right by them. I shout Caleb's name from every hilltop, every chance I get, people don't even believe me about how well he treats customers. I ain't gonna flame Red, because he did do the absolute minimum in the slowest time possible, but I'll never tell anyone to send money to him.
Don’t sweat it bro, I’m bout to pull some icc x trump from him and they look ok, but nothing spectacular. Early tester bud doesn’t hold a candle to inkognitos banana peel right next to it. And I’m not seeing much or hearing much, Caleb tosses Riots and notsodog name around more than FF anymore. Jmo
 

LrnLvGrw

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I just ordered from founding fathers/red beard on his 420 sale. Texted him on the number provided on the site for some clarity to the sale. He responded right away and gave me some insight on some of the strands he ran/is currently running that were available. Placed the order on the site. He reached out the next day to confirm he had the right address and order. Let me know he was sending it. I ordered 1 pack and got to pick the free pack for the bogo. Just recieved the package and got what was ordered along with 2 additional packs. Paid for 1 and got 4 in under 10 days of placing the order and having it shipped cross country.
I don't know the dude and this is my first time ordering from him but it seems like he has put a higher priority on his customer service
 

Cannaclysmic Events

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I just ordered from founding fathers/red beard on his 420 sale. Texted him on the number provided on the site for some clarity to the sale. He responded right away and gave me some insight on some of the strands he ran/is currently running that were available. Placed the order on the site. He reached out the next day to confirm he had the right address and order. Let me know he was sending it. I ordered 1 pack and got to pick the free pack for the bogo. Just recieved the package and got what was ordered along with 2 additional packs. Paid for 1 and got 4 in under 10 days of placing the order and having it shipped cross country.
I don't know the dude and this is my first time ordering from him but it seems like he has put a higher priority on his customer service
I would agree with this. I had a rough go of things at first but he made it right beyond what I consider reasonable, and seems like he's put a solid effort towards shoring up his operation. It's good news really, we need breeders of quality more than we need breeders of quantity.
 
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