FLOWERING WITH CFL"S

monkey5

monkey5

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So my baby is in 7 week veg,, getting bushy as hell.i plan to leave it for another 1-2 week veg anyways
but i will be starting to build the flowering room in a separate closet soon.
currently they are under/surrounded with 2x t12 bulbs and 3x 26wattts cfl --
(( i have grown with hps before and the plant is doing almost as goood if not better with the cfl )))

i have a case of 26 watts. equivelant 60. 900 lumens .cfls lying around the house

my question and im sure many other interested would like to know how many of theese 26 watts cfl would be sufficient for a single plant in the flowering stage.?

i was thinking 8 cfls--26 watts x 8 = 208 watts & 7200 lumens

should i use less or more
please let me know about your cfl grows
 
CFLs are good for veg. the leaves really respond to the daylight bulbs.

for flowering, they are too weak. the buds will be wispy no matter how many CFLs u throw at it
they just arent intense enough for the 12/12 switch

if u bought a bag of CFL weed i dont think u'd like it
 
monkey5 said:
So my baby is in 7 week veg,, getting bushy as hell.i plan to leave it for another 1-2 week veg anyways
but i will be starting to build the flowering room in a separate closet soon.
currently they are under/surrounded with 2x t12 bulbs and 3x 26wattts cfl --
(( i have grown with hps before and the plant is doing almost as goood if not better with the cfl )))

i have a case of 26 watts. equivelant 60. 900 lumens .cfls lying around the house

my question and im sure many other interested would like to know how many of theese 26 watts cfl would be sufficient for a single plant in the flowering stage.?

i was thinking 8 cfls--26 watts x 8 = 208 watts & 7200 lumens

should i use less or more
please let me know about your cfl grows
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I Disagree with Mike. I'm only on my second grow but on my first grow i went with cfl till harvest and pulled two oz a plant under 800wats pf cfl and it was all Dence
 
not gonna argue.

if the best weed u have ever had is just as good as your CFL grow, by all means, try nothing else.

im just saying, im 100% sure that is not the case
 
mike myers mask said:
not gonna argue.

if the best weed u have ever had is just as good as your CFL grow, by all means, try nothing else.

im just saying, im 100% sure that is not the case
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What you said is that it will give you wispy buds and I can 100% tell you that is not the case. There are whole forums on this website Dedicated to people growing with CFLs if they didn't work people wouldn't use them. Yes you can get more weight with a high pressure. But then you can also have heat issues to deal with. I'm going with the HP now. I just don't understand why people say you get whispy bbuds
 
mike myers mask said:
not gonna argue.

if the best weed u have ever had is just as good as your CFL grow, by all means, try nothing else.

im just saying, im 100% sure that is not the case
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Potency is almost 100% based on genetics. A strain is only capable of a certain range of product outcomes. You can't magically make a shitty strain amazing by growing it in optimal conditions. Also light spectrum on cfl is better an easier to tailor than most hids. Therefore, the quality capability of CFCs is better than hps or mh, but quantity and density for wattage is a totally different game. My hps absolutely beats out my LEDs for quantity, but the quality on my LEDs definitely beats out the hps. It's kind of what you want to sacrifice, but CFls are more than capable I growing nug that is just as good, if not better than hids.(because genetics are what is truly important when it comes to quality)


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kmog33 said:
Potency is almost 100% based on genetics. A strain is only capable of a certain range of product outcomes. You can't magically make a shitty strain amazing by growing it in optimal conditions. Also light spectrum on cfl is better an easier to tailor than most hids. Therefore, the quality capability of CFCs is better than hps or mh, but quantity and density for wattage is a totally different game. My hps absolutely beats out my LEDs for quantity, but the quality on my LEDs definitely beats out the hps. It's kind of what you want to sacrifice, but CFls are more than capable I growing nug that is just as good, if not better than hids.(because genetics are what is truly important when it comes to quality)


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how many watts & lumen should be good for 1 plant in flowering using cfl??
 
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id recc this, or equivalent, given all your factors. such as your ideas about feeding plants protein shakes, while playin' screwed and chopped music on syrup
 
monkey5 said:
how many watts & lumen should be good for 1 plant in flowering using cfl??
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I have no idea I don't use CFls. Also, watts/lumens aren't a good way to estimate plant coverage. The last time I used flouros I was using a 200watt full spectrum bulb over 2 plants, and at that point your better off swapping to a 150w hps as it just produces light much more efficiently. CFls aren't really an efficient way to grow if you actually want to pull decent weight. I also go more by space than plant number, so I would say that 200 watt cfl would cover maybe 1.5x1.5x1 feet. There are a ton of cfl growers here and elsewhere on the internet that can probably better help with amount of actual cfl needed for space, but another factor is what spectrum flouros you are using.



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kmog33 said:
I have no idea I don't use CFls. Also, watts/lumens aren't a good way to estimate plant coverage. The last time I used flouros I was using a 200watt full spectrum bulb over 2 plants, and at that point your better off swapping to a 150w hps as it just produces light much more efficiently. CFls aren't really an efficient way to grow if you actually want to pull decent weight. I also go more by space than plant number, so I would say that 200 watt cfl would cover maybe 1.5x1.5x1 feet. There are a ton of cfl growers here and elsewhere on the internet that can probably better help with amount of actual cfl needed for space, but another factor is what spectrum flouros you are using.



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thank you for input
i know i know... but like i said i did an hps grow last-year. worked great ..unfortunatley i dont have it now.
spectrum -- red mostly and defineteley a few blues
tons of cfl growers?? i cant find em ..send them my way
i kinda figured out ..it can rlly never be enough cfl's .. so i decided to go to walmart and get 10 sockets . i have soft white 26watt bulbs 900 lumens . & i will ad my t12 for the blue spectrum..


but super louds 2x 150wcfl 4x 55w and 8x26w sounds more than ideal
p.s ....any one with accurate info ..hit me
again this only ffor 1 plant
 
monkey5 said:
thank you for input
i know i know... but like i said i did an hps grow last-year. worked great ..unfortunatley i dont have it now.
spectrum -- red mostly and defineteley a few blues
tons of cfl growers?? i cant find em ..send them my way
i kinda figured out ..it can rlly never be enough cfl's .. so i decided to go to walmart and get 10 sockets . i have soft white 26watt bulbs 900 lumens . & i will ad my t12 for the blue spectrum..


but super louds 2x 150wcfl 4x 55w and 8x26w sounds more than ideal
p.s ....any one with accurate info ..hit me
again this only ffor 1 plant
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The set up worked nice for yield. Quality wasn't too good but I use seeds out of a bag of Mexican dirt. That turned out better than a Mexican dirt though. I'm thinking when I replace my 150 watt bulbs I will probably go up to a 250 watt bulb.
 
abe supercro said:
The perimeter is secured monkey. I'd recc two of these four footers, so you start thinking bigger and eventually have the ability to expand.
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next grow my friend + im in nyc..my space is limited as well but i got 2 t12s running--- i actually think the plant is doing good never had a defficency yet
 

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monkey5 said:
thank you for input
i know i know... but like i said i did an hps grow last-year. worked great ..unfortunatley i dont have it now.
spectrum -- red mostly and defineteley a few blues
tons of cfl growers?? i cant find em ..send them my way
i kinda figured out ..it can rlly never be enough cfl's .. so i decided to go to walmart and get 10 sockets . i have soft white 26watt bulbs 900 lumens . & i will ad my t12 for the blue spectrum..


but super louds 2x 150wcfl 4x 55w and 8x26w sounds more than ideal
p.s ....any one with accurate info ..hit me
again this only ffor 1 plant
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The role with CFLs Is you want every part of the plant covered. If you see a part of your plant that looks darker than the rest like there's a shadow there and you need to add light
 
seed to harvest with like 14 cfls.lol and the buds were dense and dank. If you grow wispy buds with cfls..that sounds like a you problem and not so much a light problem..not knowing enough to use your equipment correctly isnt the equipments fault. You wouldnt use 150w HID for a whole 8×8 room.. itd give you wispy buds..Duh. same principle applies. Its the amount of cfls. Not the cfls themself.
 
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maybe i misused the word wispy.

but with CFLs the buds wont get that big and the stem to bud ratio will be heavily in the stems favor. i like thin stems and huge buds personally
 
My first grow was CFLs (beginning to end) in a 2x4 closet, where I attempted my first scrog. Shown is a Casey Jones (there was also a GSC but I'll just stick with this one for now). There were 444 watts of mixed 23w and 42w bulbs, so 222 watts per plant. It was 75% 6500k/5000k for veg, and 75% 2700k for flower. I think I vegged them for around 10 weeks, it was a long run. They were in 10 gallon pots in a nice rich soil mix, with Maxi and Fox Farms nutes alternated, every other watering was straight water. The key is keeping the lights between 1-3 inches from the plants. I got 3.3 dry oz from the CJ, and 2.2 from the GSC. These buds are super sticky and give an intense high. Here are some pics:

This is the room, emptied after harvest, to give you an idea of the space
empty_room.jpg
This is the light configuration
cfl-light-config.jpg
These are shots of the CJ
1stscrog2.jpg budfrost.jpg bigbud.jpg 1stscrog1.jpg

Hope that helps.
 
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