First time AUTOFLOWERING! Give me your lights guys!..Enlighten Me!

Also if you growing small plants outdoors a plant without topping will yield more! I know because i HAVE done this. The suns rays has far better light penetration then the artificial lights we use! The main reason we top is to reduce height and create an shorter more even canopy so our artificial lighting can penetrate light to most of our plant, hence increasing yield. The other reason is when topping you get more smaller buds so the chance of bud rot minimises in late flower! So dont talk to me like i dont know shit. I grow 1 pound plants indoors connoisseur can vouch for that. Hes seen them.

MATTYMATT726 said:

You are a clown. You can't offer any advise only copy and paste what you see. I do grow autos, good results too. Most if not all of the breeder Mephisto clock over 20% and Double Grape was tested at 27% and Gold Glue at 30% to name a few exacts from them. So yeah, 20%, 21%, 22%, 23%, 24%, 25%, 26%, 27%, 28%, 29% and 30% thc since i need to spell it oit for you. Nothing else i can do for you though.

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There are plenty of photos with recorded thc levels well over 30% buddy lol

MATTYMATT726 said:

You are a clown. You can't offer any advise only copy and paste what you see. I do grow autos, good results too. Most if not all of the breeder Mephisto clock over 20% and Double Grape was tested at 27% and Gold Glue at 30% to name a few exacts from them. So yeah, 20%, 21%, 22%, 23%, 24%, 25%, 26%, 27%, 28%, 29% and 30% thc since i need to spell it oit for you. Nothing else i can do for you though.

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Maybe i need to spell it "oit" for you!!?

MATTYMATT726 said:

You are a clown. You can't offer any advise only copy and paste what you see. I do grow autos, good results too. Most if not all of the breeder Mephisto clock over 20% and Double Grape was tested at 27% and Gold Glue at 30% to name a few exacts from them. So yeah, 20%, 21%, 22%, 23%, 24%, 25%, 26%, 27%, 28%, 29% and 30% thc since i need to spell it oit for you. Nothing else i can do for you though.

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Even with this.. it could be stronger if it was fem or reg..

Hydro4life said:

Have you ever smoked a bud with 10% thc and compared it to a bud at 25% thc? I have. And i can tell you now the bud with 25% thc was MUCH stronger! And thc is nothing like alcohol lol.

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FYI not everybody lives in camada or USA!! Before 2013 we had weed that get you high,and weed that doesn't get you high..
.does your coke dealer have label of purity on he's packages?? I canbet you that proper grown mephisto could measure with 90% of regular priced photos..And this whe topic is stupi,why the f... i wanna turn you to autos?? It's loke hps vs led argue,everybody uses/growes what him suits the best.. I did few photo grows,they were nothing stronger than my autos,and were much more sensitive than autos.. So Like I said you just keep growing photos,there are plenty of us doing autos,and the fact that 80% of breeder are expanding their offers with autos says enought.. peace love and grow!!

EL Connoisseur said:

Even with this.. it could be stronger if it was fem or reg..

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I'm not at all the person that debated on this. I am jist telling you that autos will get in the high 20s and close to 30% if you look for a reputable breeder. Im not arguing with you're buddy anymore but for what it's worth, 3 of the best people i have seen in the auto growing on this site have entered your thread. Buzzedbuddah, McStrats and Swisha85 all are guys to watch. There are a few others as well but these 3(and im not even buddy buddy with anyone) will give nothing but solid advice if you search the pages. With that being said i saw your photo journal and think you will grow just fine. I myslef do not thi k that the 3% ruderalis(it is usually a tiny amount only for the auto flower trait) will make that much weaker in thc. Most people don't need over 25-30% so that's my opinion why you won't see such high numers if that is what you seek.

CikaBika said:

FYI not everybody lives in camada or USA!! Before 2013 we had weed that get you high,and weed that doesn't get you high..
.does your coke dealer have label of purity on he's packages?? I canbet you that proper grown mephisto could measure with 90% of regular priced photos..And this whe topic is stupi,why the f... i wanna turn you to autos?? It's loke hps vs led argue,everybody uses/growes what him suits the best.. I did few photo grows,they were nothing stronger than my autos,and were much more sensitive than autos.. So Like I said you just keep growing photos,there are plenty of us doing autos,and the fact that 80% of breeder are expanding their offers with autos says enought.. peace love and grow!!

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Who said i was from canada or the us.?? Im not. And you may not have grown your photos properly? You said they are sensitive so you must of had issues there somewhere. I never said autos werent strong or didnt have high thc. They do (now) but not as much as a photoperiod. Most people probably wouldnt notice the difference. Both get u smashed but there IS a difference. It may be minimal but its a genetic fact! And thats exactly what i said in my previous posts, it depends on the growers circumstances, setup, limitations etc. Ive never said not to grow autos. Autos can be great as they open up more options for us growers! I wouldnt know if a coke dealer has a label of purity on his/her shit.... sounds like you know more about that than me....? Each to their own i say.

MATTYMATT726 said:

I'm not at all the person that debated on this. I am jist telling you that autos will get in the high 20s and close to 30% if you look for a reputable breeder. Im not arguing with you're buddy anymore but for what it's worth, 3 of the best people i have seen in the auto growing on this site have entered your thread. Buzzedbuddah, McStrats and Swisha85 all are guys to watch. There are a few others as well but these 3(and im not even buddy buddy with anyone) will give nothing but solid advice if you search the pages. With that being said i saw your photo journal and think you will grow just fine. I myslef do not thi k that the 3% ruderalis(it is usually a tiny amount only for the auto flower trait) will make that much weaker in thc. Most people don't need over 25-30% so that's my opinion why you won't see such high numers if that is what you seek.

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Personally i like the process of feminized more..I like to have more control(about everything) on my plants and also i like to have this 3 more % that you said(which can be much more) on my yields or anything else(potency)..Also i can run as SOG 9 plants in 10 ltr pots in a m2.. 4weeks veg and 9 weeks flowering..which is 13 weeks..In compare with 11 weeks of an auto..only 2 weeks difference and i have all these advantages(most of control, more thc, and definitely bigger yields) Thats the rational thinking..no offense with anyone!

Hydro4life said:

Who said i was from canada or the us.?? Im not. And you may not have grown your photos properly? You said they are sensitive so you must of had issues there somewhere. I never said autos werent strong or didnt have high thc. They do (now) but not as much as a photoperiod. Most people probably wouldnt notice the difference. Both get u smashed but there IS a difference. It may be minimal but its a genetic fact! And thats exactly what i said in my previous posts, it depends on the growers circumstances, setup, limitations etc. Ive never said not to grow autos. Autos can be great as they open up more options for us growers! I wouldnt know if a coke dealer has a label of purity on his/her shit.... sounds like you know more about that than me....? Each to their own i say.

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So how the f.. you know what % of thc is weed that you smoked? You were in Amsterdam,?? I grew my photos same as autos.. And once again I'm shitty grower.. Sensitive of light leeks, etc,I had once 3 days of non working light in my autos tent,nothing happened. And yes I dont bash photos,my dream is to try some ch9 and bodhi strains,but for my needs autos are waay more convenient.. saying that ruderalis geenes makes them weak? As far As I know they breed strains until only flowering time stayed,everything else connected to ruderalis is breed out,like in dog breding..

my coke comparison was on your thc %, we had only Albanian weed,and still do ,on the street..
If you are plain dealer and got bust maybe you end up in news papers maybe not,
but if you are growing,you get news and sometimes tv..
And yes I did all of weekend drugs,amphetamins,xtc,lsd...
I lived my life..
Coke is to expensive in here. 1g cost's 1/7 of my monthly pay..

You got that right..

MATTYMATT726 said:

I'm not at all the person that debated on this. I am jist telling you that autos will get in the high 20s and close to 30% if you look for a reputable breeder. Im not arguing with you're buddy anymore but for what it's worth, 3 of the best people i have seen in the auto growing on this site have entered your thread. Buzzedbuddah, McStrats and Swisha85 all are guys to watch. There are a few others as well but these 3(and im not even buddy buddy with anyone) will give nothing but solid advice if you search the pages. With that being said i saw your photo journal and think you will grow just fine. I myslef do not thi k that the 3% ruderalis(it is usually a tiny amount only for the auto flower trait) will make that much weaker in thc. Most people don't need over 25-30% so that's my opinion why you won't see such high numers if that is what you seek.

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I agree with you Matty, and i can already tell those guys give good solid advice and have experience. I liked their posts. And im sure those guys would agree with most of what ive said in my previous posts. All i am saying is autos have improved considerably over the years and have minimised the potency difference between autos and photos, common sense tells me it is vital to minimise any stress or shock as they have a short growth stage. And their is still a difference in potency, some autos more than others. With a good auto when comparing the same strain and same breeder i imagine you wouldnt notice the difference in potency. As stated before im not against autos. They sound awesome. Im going to give them a go outdoors without topping (each to their own. Some may benefit from this depending on their setup/situation) after our winter has passed here. Do you agree with what ive just said Matty?

CikaBika said:

So gow the f.. you know what % of thc is weed that you smoked? You were in Amsterdam,?? I grew my photos same as autos.. And once again I'm shitty grower.. Sensitive of light ledks etc,I had once 3 days of non working light in my autos tent,nothing happened.And yes I dont bash photos,my dream is to try some ch9 and bodhi strains,but for my needs autos are waay more convinient.. saying that ruderslis geenis makes them weak? As far As I know they breed strains until only flowering time stayed,everything else cinnected to ruderalis is breed out,like in dog breedeing.. my coke comparison was on your thc %, we had inly slbanian weed,and still do on the street..If you are plain dealer and got bust maybe you end up in news pappers maybe not,but if you are growing,you get news and sometimes tv.. And yes I did all of weekend drugs,amphetamins,xtc,lsd...
I lived my life..
Coke is to expensive in here. 1g cost's 1/7 of my monthly pay..

You got that right..

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Haha. Actually i was!! I never said auto genes make them weak. I said they are weaker than photos. The difference now is minimal but it is there. And atleast your honest cikabika. But if you had those issues you cant really make a comparison on the two from those grows in my opinion. And thats good man, thats why i think autos are great as they give us growers more options and tailor for more of a variety of setups. Haha. Im a believer of trying EVERYTHING once! If you are going to grow a photoperiod and have things dialled in and can hold your own in regards to growing i recommend giving chemdawg a go! Ive grown sooo many different strains and personally love chemdawg. That is a strain you will have to top (possibly multiple time if vegging for a big plant) as its very suseptible to mold/bud rot and is a little harder to grow but if you ace it you will be very happily rewarded imo.

Hydro4life said:

Haha. Actually i was!! I never said auto genes make them weak. I said they are weaker than photos. The difference now is minimal but it is there. And atleast your honest cikabika. But if you had those issues you cant really make a comparison on the two from those grows in my opinion. And thats good man, thats why i think autos are great as they give us growers more options and tailor for more of a variety of setups. Haha. Im a believer of trying EVERYTHING once! If you are going to grow a photoperiod and have things dialled in and can hold your own in regards to growing i recommend giving chemdawg a go! Ive grown sooo many different strains and personally love chemdawg. That is a strain you will have to top (possibly multiple time if vegging for a big plant) as its very suseptible to mold/bud rot and is a little harder to grow but if you ace it you will be very happily rewarded imo.

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That's why I never bash any strain or breeder,..O always think it's ,y fault..I have very bad /hard tap water with extra high ppm, and EC..So i think that's the cause of all my problems..
I like heavy stone indica strains.. who's breeder do you like chemdog? sorry for crappy spelling

SwiSHa85 said:

Every auto strain is different imo... some love lst and topping and some just completely stunt growth. Ive beat autos up with training/stem cracking and still yield 2oz. My avg is 4-6 oz a plant with topping/lst. The key to training autos is finding which ones have a long veg time to give you time to play with them before flower. WW and NL have long veg times along with many other strains ive found along the way.

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Yeah those auto WW veg for like 50 days, well mine did, potent as good yields, one of my faves

CikaBika said:

That's why I never bash any strain or breeder,..O always think it's ,y fault..I have very bad /hard tap water with extra high ppm, and EC..So i think that's the cause of all my problems..
I like heavy stone indica strains.. who's breeder do you like chemdog? sorry for crappy spelling

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I have the same problem with my tap water. High ph, high ppm. And alot of chlorine! Its a pain in the arse. Lol. I buy 10 litre bottles of distilled water and mix it 50/50 and use straight distilled water with a dash of cal/mag for very young plants. You could try that next grow cikabika? As for the chemdawg, the breeder i chose was humbolt i got regular seeds as ive heard regulars yield slightly more than feminised (no idea if thats true) dont stress about the spelling man, i know what your saying ill see if i can find a bud pic 4 ya. Wonder if they do chemdawg in autoflower?

Early flower!

Middle pic is just before flip.

wil2279 said:

I have only grown autos once so I am not sure if i am the best person to be giving advice but here goes. usually topping is considered a no no for autos. I would say if you have to do it... maybe try fimming since it is less stressful to the plant. Most of the time LST is considered the way to go to train your autos. As far as the veg and bloom goes... I am going to guess that for a 10 week strain you probably don't have more than about 3-4 weeks of veg.

Also I think it you a smart in choosing your strains you will not experience a reduction in overall quality. Good auto genetics have been bred to have the same potency as the standard photoperiod strains... they just have been bred to flower without the change in light cycle. Most people are loving the Miphysto stains along with some of the sweet seed and dynafem strains. not sure if i spelled the breeders right but i am sure you can figure it out.

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Ive personally had great success with dinafem. And have also heard good things about sweet seeds. Another breeder ive had good success with is humbolt. Ive grown the photoperiod version of blue dream and its up there in terms of quality, bag appeal, smell and potency imo. Has anyone grown the auto version of this?? Does it grow big for an auto? I know it grew like crazy after fliping to 12/12!

Hydro4life said:

Ive personally had great success with dinafem. And have also heard good things about sweet seeds. Another breeder ive had good success with is humbolt. Ive grown the photoperiod version of blue dream and its up there in terms of quality, bag appeal, smell and potency imo. Has anyone grown the auto version of this?? Does it grow big for an auto? I know it grew like crazy after fliping to 12/12!

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I haven't grown it but it is on my short list of strains to try . The Humbolt blue dream auto that is...

wil2279 said:

I haven't grown it but it is on my short list of strains to try . The Humbolt blue dream auto that is...

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Any auto strains you would recommend that youve personally done well with wil? And have you grown any of them outdoors??

Hydro4life said:

Any auto strains you would recommend that youve personally done well with wil? And have you grown any of them outdoors??

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Ask me in a few months. I've only done 1 auto and it was indoors and it sucked. It was about 9 years ago... I am going to try mephisto northern cheese haze, and Royal Queen's royal cookies and royal creamatic this summer. I am going to try starting them indoors 2 weeks before i put them outside.