First Grow Journal, DWC 4 Cuttings. (First Hydro/indoor Grow)

smokeymcpiff

Well-Known Member
Im making this thread to show all of you my DWC set up and a bit of progress from my plants.


My cuttings arrived on Saturday morning (10th, Sep, 2011), they came when i was still in the process of building my room.
To keeps the cuttings alive i put them under 1 400W Grolux bulb in a small closet i have, the cuttings were in 1inch x 1inch Rockwool cudes so i had to keep them moist, i used a small syringe to spray a very weak nute solution (Canna Hydro A+B) onto the Rockwool cubesthe light was approximately 30 inch away (was scared of burning the plant)


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The cuttings were fine in there for about two days but by Monday night the cuttings had started drooping and the leaves had started curling up, this point i realized i had been over watering them and they didn't like it ! i soon fixed this problem !
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Ok so i'm going to leave my cuttings out for a bit and going to concentrate a bit on my grow room.

This room im really really proud of bear in mind this is my first ever indoor grow ! The idea started out when a spare room in my house was just getting filled full of rubbish and junk ! i decided it needed to be put to better use ;).

I cleared the room completely except a few useful thing i could fine i found two rotating fans and a few extension leads for all the electrics.

After i had scavenged through all the stuff and threw the rest away i got to work preparing the floor, as i was using water i wanted to make it a bit waterproof, so i nailed hardboard to the floor this was just a back up incase i dropped water to stop it going through the floor boards.

After the floor was finished i set to work building a frame work i layed a square on the floor (8' x 8') of wood and placed 4 corners and then 4 between all 4 corners.
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Pictures anot too clear but u kinda get a idea of what im on about. once all of this was up i brought some special plasterboard called vapor board, it basically just has a silver film on one side here's a few pictures of it been put up.

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Shiny stuff ;) at this point i was super excited ! we finished putting all this up on the Monday night.

Tuesday morning the plants were still looking unhappy ! so the room had to be finished, so me and my dad got back to building the room we built two bars across the roof for the lights, fans ect...

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Once these were up there was a few finishing touches we had to do, we sealed every single hole where light was coming through with a filler and then taped over and cracks etc... the room is completely silver ! except from the roof was a bit pushed for time i wanted them cuttings in my setup !! we pushed a hole through for electrics and that was it the room was finished it had a door and was super shiny !


Guess its time for my setup.

Again as a first time hydro grower i didn't really no much, iv been researching it for ages now ! and i designed my own DWC setup again I'm really pleased about it and it seems to be working GREAT !

I got 4 90 Liter big square buckets, and 4, 2.5 liter pots which had holes in them not totally sure what there called and i think there 2.5 liter ? anyway i set them up with two pieces of wood over the big bucket that holds the small buckets over the water, once this was done i place my pumps into the bottoms and measured them up to see how much pipe i needed, i made a sort of halo around where the plants are going to be placed to give them water shooting at all sides, once the pumps were in i got my aeration balls and placed them in the bottom under the pot.

Now that was all set up it was time to get the lights in place, i used chain to hang the lights which is going to make it easy for height adjustment the ballasts are outside the room to try keep the room cool, there 400w lights with a Grolux bulb in each of them, im waiting on some money to buy a few extra lights and metal halide bulbs, im planning on having at least 1 light per plant in each corner of the room but for now two Grolux should do fine i think, ill also be switching to HPS bulbs in the flowering period.

Here's the pictures :)


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Tell me what you think of the setup ??

As you can see the plants have perked up a lot ! and have grew quite a bit, these pictures were took the second day they were in the room and im pretty surprised at the growth !


As for The AIR!

I never realized the lights got so hot until i put the on in that small room to keep them cuttings ! i figured the priority was to try and get some cool air into the room seeing as where i live its pretty cool her i figured i didn't need a Air conditioning unit, i used what i had ! i had a small fan which my dad used for his paint spraying room there was a vent in the room which was in a handy spot just behind my room, i put the fan in to the plaster board and used a piece of plastic pipe which leads to the other end of this vent, The fan was pushing in cold air ! :) I'm pretty good at this money saving stuff ;)

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OK so i have cool air blowing in next i needed to start pushing it around the room i put a fan in front of the pipe as u can see to force the cool air towards the lights and around the room, the room was still a bit still so i needed a bit more movement of the air so i used my other fan :)

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OK so two is enough for now i think if your wondering why i haven't got a extraction fan yet is i don't have no money ! i figure i don't really need one until they start smelling ??

That's basically my setup and my room ! What do you think ?? i put a lot of time into this and to be honest I'm pretty proud of my self thanks to my dad as well for helping :)

Im not going to finish just yet :) few more bits and bobs i want to add :)

Bits and Bobs

Ok so just a few bits that you might want to hear and see :)

The only nutrients im using are Canna Hydro (A+B) they seem to be doing well the plants look Really Healthy other then the few dead leaves from the stress.

I brought this toy :) and i like it (Even though im still trying to figure the readings out)

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Here are my Reading:

Normal Water:
PPM (x700) - 300
EC - 0.4
CF - 4

My nutrients mixed water
:
PPM (x700) - 980
EC - 1.4
CF - 14
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As for my journal that's it for now ! if your reading through and there are a few spelling mistakes its because I'm tired its been a long day ! ill be fixing the spelling errors tomorrow, ill be keeping this up to date ever week ill be adding a entry and when ever anything happens.

Please give me a few comments and tell me what you think Any help or advice will be appreciated !
Go easy its my first time !

One last thing i want to thank everyone at rollitup for the help you have gave me in my last grow (Out door) here's a few pictures of it for you to look at

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Thank you.
Smokey.
 
Well, I don't know what to say...looks like you've taken a alot of care and put a lot of time and effort into your grow room and setup, my question is, why are you not covering your reservoir's? Are you planning on covering them and I just missed that part? When your roots grow out of your net pots and into the water, they're gonna want to be in the dark, not to mention the fact that you can get algae blooms and shit growing in your water from the lights being on...I dunno, did I miss something?
 
Do you plan on covering up that water? Because when the roots hit that water you are going to get some serious root rot from the light. Also algae. Pretty much everything Metasynth said.
 
Lots of things are looking great, but like meta said.... gotta keep them roots in the absolute dark. I'm a little concerned about the stability of holding the baskets by the edge like that. Maybe some plywood to cover the rez, with a hole cut for the basket.
 
Smoky, your outdoor plants look awesome! if these hydro plants start to look much different than your outdoor grow look for some problem.
 
Thanks for all the comments I'm planning on covering the sides up before Sunday, the supports are pretty sturday and i think they will hold for a few more weeks ill prop replace them with a solid piece of wood as blurrr said.

Just woke up and checked my plants they look fine :) they have grew about a inch and half from Tuesday. Really please.

Thanks blurrr i had 5 plants, they wasn't massive but i got about 2 oz of each plant, one of the plants started out tiny ! like the runt but by the end it was the biggest ! The yield was 4 oz, hoping my hydro gets me a bit more yield than 2 oz a plant :P

Im planning on leaving them in veg for 5 weeks and the obviously putting them into flowering until there finished :) :)

Wondering if you guys could tell me how far my lights should be from my plants ?? bit worried as they have started growing pretty fast :)

Also does anyone no what the PPM Should be throughout the life cycle ? for example what it should be in early vegging (Now), mid vegging, late vegging, early flowering, mid flowering and final flowering stages ??

Thanks for all the support and ideas ! :)
 
hiya m8
lovely looking grow you got there. But like others said and others will say again, you need them resviours covering otherwise the res will get alagae all over and the water will not be kept cool. heres a idea for you, why don't you cover the tubs up you have with there lids and cut holes for net pots. will be better imo...
Otherwise good luck, with the nutes just give them a quarter feed and then half and then full. if to much then back of nutes for a bit.
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Thanks wilmb im sure ill come up with something :) im using a nute chart off the Canna Website the plants seem ehalthy ill jsut keep a eye on them see how they react and just change what ever needs to be changed :)

Ill keep the pics coming ill try and update weekly or a bit more often.

Thanks for the input :)
 
As far as ppm goes, figure out what your meters conversion is to EC instead of PPM. Try to stay around .8 to 1.2 EC With huge tubs like yours you can run low nute levels and not have to worry about nute burn and all the problems that come with it. #1 problem for hydro grows is over feeding. Watch out for leaves that start to claw, thats your sign to back off.
Less is More
 
my ec is 1.4 the standard ec of the water is 0.4 !! but plants seem fine, Im changing the water on Sunday so ill just make sure its around the same if not slightly lower. Thanks blurrr
 
Ok so its been 6 days since i put the cuttings into my setup ! they have shot up around 3 inches ! they seem to like the setup which im pleased about, the smallest plant developed a small deformation on the leaf
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Also the small plant has small white dots on the leaves, iv asked in the marijuana plant problem forum and im waiting on a reply.

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im planning on topping these soon iv waited until the roots appear ion the sides of the pots to make sure they have settled in well, here's a few pictures of the plants and a few pictures of the roots popping though.

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im covering the pots today with some plastic sheets that i have found, the ec of the water now is 0.9 which i think is about right :)

more updates soon !
 
We'd love to see ya in the DWC section. If you ever want to switch over, let me know and I'll have it arranged. I see lots of problems, the exposed roots already being mentioned.. let's focus on your medium. I notice it's not rockwool.. /sigh

Those little aquarium pebbles or whatever you have don't encourage easy root growth. The main reason being they're not round.
 
Seremis ? my friends have used it and got good results i brought it from a hydroponic shop ? it was listed as a growing media This isnt the exact shop that i got it from but there's a description of it HERE

As for being moved i was thinking about it because as this is my frist grow i could prob do with a bit more help and this section isnt completly for help, so if its possible ill be moved ?

Thanks.
 
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