Fan Leaf in need of diagnosis.

Olive Drab Green

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My soil was upper 7's so it was locking out some nutes, added a little aluminum sulfate to drop it down. Will look into soybean meal sounds like exactly what I'm looking for!

Peat will be my first choice from now on, I didn't do much research to find the aluminum sulfate solution.
If you’re in organics, pH isn’t as important and likely not the cause, but if synthetic, that’s a reasonable thing to investigate.
 

NaturalFarmer

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No offense to OGD because it is often misstated with organic cannabis growers but pH is very important. It won't win you any friends by stating it though but it is the truth. Plants can naturally drop the pH through exudates, this is absolutely true but at a cost of time and lack of growth. By having the soil within the 6.0-6.7 range all is good from the beginning.

Most organic growers are growing with bagged base mixes that are buffered from the beginning so naturally they don't think pH is important as someone has already taken care of it but if they made a mix from scratch they would see, take one that is 7.2 and the other that is 6.5, they could see for themselves that the 7.2 is inhibited by the high pH and will be delayed.
 
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Master_Tabi

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No offense to OGD because it is often misstated with organic cannabis growers but pH is very important. It won't win you any friends by stating it though but it is the truth. Plants can naturally drop the pH through exudates, this is absolutely true but at a cost of time and lack of growth. By having the soil within the 6.0-6.7 range all is good from the beginning.

Most organic growers are growing with bagged base mixes that are buffered from the beginning so naturally they don't think pH is important as someone has already taken care of it but if they made a mix from scratch they would see, take one that is 7.2 and the other that is 6.5, they could see for themselves that the 7.2 is inhibited by the high pH and will be delayed.
I know pH is one of the most important factors due to the fact that your soil or substrate can have all the nutrients that the plant needs to thrive however due to the pH isn't able to break down the elements for absorption through roots, or something of that sort.

Now the issue with my soil is that it wasn't started by me however I have taken it upon myself to care and nurture this plant to fruition. I've added natural elements to the soil such as used ground coffee beans worm casting perlite vermiculite and recently some bone meal.

Got ahead of myself when I said I didn't feed it, should have said haven't fed enough.
 

NaturalFarmer

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I would get fish hydrolysate and soybean meal to feed (maybe kelp). You wont need anything else. Feed fish twice a month. top dress soy once a month.
 

NaturalFarmer

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I'm trying to be organic, mostly organic at least. First cheat was with the aluminum sulfate it did its job.
Pretty sure it is still organic but I don't think it would be recommend for anything but hydrangeas. Cetainly not by me even for hydrangeas. Not a fan of aluminum. Peat would be first choice followed by raw (elemental) sulfur which I don't use because its pricey.
 
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