Edward Snowden is an freedom fighter exposing crimes against America's Constitution

Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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londonfog said:
You are against Civil Rights. civil rights also deal with the rights of women. Do you really wish a restaurant owner to tell your mother to leave because she is a female. That is exactly what you are saying. You want to take away your mothers right all because she is a female

Served or not to discriminate ? You do realize there is a difference ...or do you. Do you think your mother is getting "served" when she visits her OBGY

Damn man once again you keep getting political/social science confused with the science of math
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No I do not wish for people to be rude. Womens rights? Hmmm...Women don't have any more or any less rights than other people. We're all equal, remember?

My mother doesn't have any right to force another person to interact with her or to serve her. That would be rude.

There is no such thing as political science, it's an artificial construct about systems designed to rationalize the use of offensive force, which self evidently fails to deliver or protect equal rights.

My mother was born without a vagina, she was sprayed with colloidal silver and pollinated a clone. That's why I'm so damn furry, recessive genes and all that, but damn I'm covered in trichomes! Like 137% THC.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Rob Roy said:
My mother was born without a vagina, she was sprayed with colloidal silver and pollinated a clone. That's why I'm so damn furry, recessive genes and all that, but damn I'm covered in trichomes! Like 137% THC.
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If you ever disrespect your beautiful soft sweet smelling mother again I will find you and beat you. Show some damn respect for the lady who pushed you out of her vagina. Your big head almost ruined her.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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ttystikk said:
And since no one is willing to discuss Edward Snowden and his heroic exposure of our Federal Government's compressor for our Constitutional Rights, I'll accept your concession to this fact.
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you're idea of heroism and mine differ greatly.
my idea of heroism is someone putting themselves at great risk to protect something they care about deeply.
i do not see that in snowden. i see an attention seeking poser. i see a want to be who put countless government programs and assests at risk to get some attention, and adulation....well, i hope he's happy with the attention....and i hope he has the sense to never step foot outside of russia, or piss his new masters off. the second our government can get hands on him, he's finished.....
he did expose a couple of things that needed to be exposed, but i think that's more of a coincidence than a design. i doubt he was aware of most of what he was exposing, it was a massive amount of information and he hadn't had close to enough time to examine it all....he just took what he could get and put it up on a public website....no idea who might be killed or compromised, what operations might be ruined, what the repercussions of any of it might be.....he was and is a grubby little fuck who wants attention......well, he's got some....hope he still likes it.....in moscow.....where all American heroes run.....
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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londonfog said:
I would suggest you be more concerned about your daughter in which you can't take care of.
What type of man would be content with their daughter not being raise by them ? Do you ever spend time with her at all ? I bet Eric Snowden would do a better job rising his child ...when he has one
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Completely off topic personal attack.

Thanks for admitting you have no argument.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Rob Roy said:
That's just it though....they're not "my rules". Self ownership is when YOU make the rules pertaining to how you will use your body and your property.

Your rules force people to serve others. Isn't that a key component of slavery? Could you explain where the right to force another person to serve you comes from ?

If a store owner is not willing to serve somebody, can you use math and prove that store is "open to the public" ? Sounds like it might not be. Why do you hate math?
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Get on topic or go start your own thread and quit mucking this one up.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
you're idea of heroism and mine differ greatly.
my idea of heroism is someone putting themselves at great risk to protect something they care about deeply.
i do not see that in snowden. i see an attention seeking poser. i see a want to be who put countless government programs and assests at risk to get some attention, and adulation....well, i hope he's happy with the attention....and i hope he has the sense to never step foot outside of russia, or piss his new masters off. the second our government can get hands on him, he's finished.....
he did expose a couple of things that needed to be exposed, but i think that's more of a coincidence than a design. i doubt he was aware of most of what he was exposing, it was a massive amount of information and he hadn't had close to enough time to examine it all....he just took what he could get and put it up on a public website....no idea who might be killed or compromised, what operations might be ruined, what the repercussions of any of it might be.....he was and is a grubby little fuck who wants attention......well, he's got some....hope he still likes it.....in moscow.....where all American heroes run.....
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So what you're saying is that it's 'heroic' to blatantly violate the Constitution and imprison anyone who blows the whistle.

You're right; our definition of hero differs.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Agrees to privacy policies on various social media sites...

Still cries about the NSA knowing what he types into pornhub search bar.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Oh, hi,

Hey now that you are here, explain what you mean by progressive when everything you talk about are socialist?
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That's the current term in use. I make no apologies for being a Democratic Socialist but many left leaning politicians prefer to be called Progressive.

That said, most of those aren't really very left at all and those who are getting the most positive response from agree Americans, like AOC and Bernie Sanders, are not shying away from the socialist label.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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ttystikk said:
Completely off topic personal attack.

Thanks for admitting you have no argument.
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How ??? I mentioned Edward Snowden.
I don't think Edward Snowden is a freedom fighter. He is a coward that ran to Russia. The Kremlin admits Snowden is a Russian fucking agent. Snowden went around this the wrong fucking way.
Now with that said I still think he would be a better father than you IMHO
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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londonfog said:
How ??? I mentioned Edward Snowden.
I don't think Edward Snowden is a freedom fighter. He is a coward that ran to Russia. The Kremlin admits Snowden is a Russian fucking agent. Snowden went around this the wrong fucking way.
Now with that said I still think he would be a better father than you IMHO
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What would be the right way?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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londonfog said:
He could have talked to Bernie Sanders about it 8)
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So you admit there IS no way 'legally'.

Totalitarian governments throughout history have used the excuse of security to limit freedom and justify secrecy, then use it to oppress their citizens.

Why do you think America is any different, especially in the face of what's already happened?
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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ttystikk said:
What would be the right way?
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If he was, in his mind, a freedom fighter for the people, why would he not stay and fight for his cause? Kind of like your proclaiming your fighting your charge for the good of the people. Would it not have removed some of the questioning of his motives?
 
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