economics of mary in colorado

Trousers said:

You can't handle the truth, son.
You do not even comprehend what is being discussed.
If you want to act like the law of supply and demand is not applicable, sweet for you.
If you want to act like prices have not dropped by more than half since the dispensaries opened, that is your hot mess.


Now run along and learn how to read, then we can talk about the basics of economics that are flying over your head.

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lmfao now your opinion about supply and demand is about denver metro area only? child please, we live in a global economy. in america

you obviously dont sell legally through a dispensary or you wouldnt have a problem
AND/Or you obviously are a shitty black market drug dealer. either way definitely a tool
where exactly is it not selling lil buddy, ill show you how to do it

igothydrotoneverywhere said:

lmfao now your opinion about supply and demand is about denver metro area only? child please, we live in a global economy. in america

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I made a post about the economics of weed in Colorado in a Colorado forum.
You did not understand it because you are an idiot.
Do you need an adult to explain to you why the economics of marijuana are different in colorado than every other state?

I get it, you are dumb, didn't understand what was going on, made a dumb post and now you are trying to save face. Great.
That doesn't make you correct, it just makes you look like more of a cunt flap.

igothydrotoneverywhere said:

you obviously dont sell legally through a dispensary

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You obviously are a dumbass. No, I grow for myself.

igothydrotoneverywhere said:

or you wouldnt have a problem

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I don't have a problem.
You are not smart enough to understand what is going on. You should try to deal with the root causes of your stupidity, although those are probably genetic and environmental, so you can't really do much.

igothydrotoneverywhere said:

AND/Or you obviously are a shitty black market drug dealer.

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lol, you are such a moron.

igothydrotoneverywhere said:

either way definitely a tool
where exactly is it not selling lil buddy, ill show you how to do it

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Do you want me to show you how to breath through your nose instead of your mouth?
I have explained to you the law of supply and demand. I am sorry you can not wrap your tiny, malformed head around such a basic concept. It is taught to first graders at my kid's elementary school and they all seem to have a very good grasp on the law of supply and demand.


I'll try one more time. I will use small words.

In 2009 (the year) a lot of dispensaries opened. The prices were as high, if not higher than black market prices.
As more and more and more dispensaries opened, there was more and more marijuana available.

Do you need to take a break and think about that? Take a deep breath and try to focus, it may get a bit complicated for you now.

The dispensaries that had expensive marijuana noticed that they were selling less. They lowered the prices. More dispensaries opened (they sell marijuana, remember?) so there was more marijuana available. People lowered their prices to look more attractive to buyers.

See how that works Big Fella?
Black market prices went down too.

I'll post the facts for you again.

If you look at dispensary ads, prices have dropped by 40% and even more. You can not deny this, it is fact.
If there were not enough marijuana to go around, the prices would go up.


Here is my original post that confused you so much:

That was not the case in Colorado. The dispensaries opened and many were charging $50-$65 an 1/8th. Pretty quickly the prices started dropping. Now you can get a pretty good 1/8th for $25 and a pretty good ounce for under $200.

The prices would not have dropped 40% if the demand exceeded the supply.
When the recreational stores open in a year, I imagine people will be ready for it.

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I do not get where you think we are talking about anything but Colorado.
If you want to wax moronic about a global economy, I could help you to understand some basic principles. I won't, because I enjoy reading stupid posts from stupid people.

Your stupidity amuses me.

competition always brings the price down.

So with that said, we need more people growing. Get those prices down to $75 an oz!!!

But that raises a new question. What price would it have to get down to so its at a point where its cheaper to buy instead of grow?

Chimone said:

competition always brings the price down.

So with that said, we need more people growing. Get those prices down to $75 an oz!!!

But that raises a new question. What price would it have to get down to so its at a point where its cheaper to buy instead of grow?

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How fucking high are you? It will never be that cheap. Grow your on you have no respect for quality. Master Growers who grow dank rare shit deserve their pay. 75 bucks an ounce. GTFO

ElectricforestEwok said:

How fucking high are you? It will never be that cheap. Grow your on you have no respect for quality. Master Growers who grow dank rare shit deserve their pay. 75 bucks an ounce. GTFO

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Pretty fucking high as a matter of fact so whatever.....
Of course grow your own. But Im sure hte same thing happened to alcohol at the end of it's prohibition. Prices were sky high while it was illegal, but once the market was flooded prices dropped. Just saying, calm the fuck down. Of course quality will drop, and you are going to have your semi decent ozs for very cheap soon. The market will dictate that. Why do you think Bud Miller and Coors make so much fucking money? There will be a lot who want a cheaper alternative. They either dont care and cant afford it, or just plain ignorant.
Did that make sense? Like I said petty fucked up and am most likely rambling

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I didnt in any way mean you or anyone else here would stoop to that level, but there will be those who will, and will have no problem growing sub par to fill that gap

Chimone said:

competition always brings the price down.

So with that said, we need more people growing. Get those prices down to $75 an oz!!!

But that raises a new question. What price would it have to get down to so its at a point where its cheaper to buy instead of grow?

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brilliant!
i would guess it costs around 1000 $ a lb if you average all growers and grow styles

HERE IS AN NICE OPEN ENDED QUESTION.
if it was all open and capital how much should a grower make? as much as a doctor? lawyer? business owner? herb gardener? it should be based on production and tools and total volume of sales based on the costs of operation just like any other commodity right? and as a result people who can make a killing, invest until the market price levels out.

right now marijuana STILL costs WAY MORE than it deserves because of the black market...
its a weed, if everyone everywhere could grow it it would cost a penny an ounce. its the easiest FRUIT BEARING PLANT ON EARTH GROW.

C'mon man were not growing apples here. How come some small batch whiskies, wines, even heers are so expensive? Quality over quantity will always fetch a higher price.

Tomatoes. Is probably the easiest to grow, it took me four years of growing to become a very good grower....that was ten plus harvests...and I get a lil better every year....been growing seven years now...if you could buy top shelf for 75$ that means Phillip Morris n Monsanto took over n flooded the market...I don't think the big corps could ever mass produce top shelf.

Anyone who thinks growing is easy isn't doing enough work and isn't getting the best flowers they could.

Want some hot cheetos chef love these when I wake up mmmm mm mmmmm.

To igothydrotons opened ended question, master growers should make more than doctor. Anyone can go to school twelve years to be a doctor. Can anyone go 7 years, or 10 for that, full time and study growing and become journeyman grower? Nope. Exactly to the supply demand of the capitalist economy. Demand through roof and not that many growers to produce top notch.
I read an article the other day of a dispensary in Denver paying >$100k year to top growers. That's pretty good coin!

chef c said:

C'mon man were not growing apples here. How come some small batch whiskies, wines, even heers are so expensive? Quality over quantity will always fetch a higher price.

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bc it takes alot of artistry and science to produce whiskey and wine, you cant just throw out a bunch of whiskey seeds and water them and weed them and then end up with more whiskey then you could ever drink in a year in the fall.

LesterBurnum said:

To igothydrotons opened ended question, master growers should make more than doctor. Anyone can go to school twelve years to be a doctor. Can anyone go 7 years, or 10 for that, full time and study growing and become journeyman grower? Nope. Exactly to the supply demand of the capitalist economy. Demand through roof and not that many growers to produce top notch.
I read an article the other day of a dispensary in Denver paying >$100k year to top growers. That's pretty good coin!

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not many and the high paying legit grow jobs are falling fast, most of these guys know how much it all costs now.

igothydrotoneverywhere said:

bc it takes alot of artistry and science to produce whiskey and wine, you cant just throw out a bunch of whiskey seeds and water them and weed them and then end up with more whiskey then you could ever drink in a year in the fall.

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Ya, you obviously havent put what it takes into a quality grow... I mean really spent the time it takes, listening to your plants, observing their nuances, learning what it means to to grow the dankest of dank. And a monkey in a tux could make whiskey or wine, it takes a well trained monkey to make great whiskeys or wines. You might think your pretty good at growing cannabis, maybe you are, maybe you have a gift, I would wager that you aren't as good as you think, most growers who can hold their own in a room full of the best are pretty humble about it, and proud of their art at the same time. So yes low to mid, and the definition of said grades will change over the next over the next five years but there will ALWAYS a demand for killer kind, always. I can keep going if need be.

And outdoor at its best can be better than indoor, but I think that at its best, a plant grown inside under controlled conditions such as temp, hours of dark, co2, sans bugs, weather, and chance, will produce a superior flower to its outdoor counter part. Granted its the growers responsibility indoor to do so, while outside you can get hit w bugs in week 3, high temps in week 4, a hail storm in week 6 and wind in week 7, and just be like "yup, shitty year, but this is all I got "

igothydrotoneverywhere said:

bc it takes alot of artistry and science to produce whiskey and wine, you cant just throw out a bunch of whiskey seeds and water them and weed them and then end up with more whiskey then you could ever drink in a year in the fall.

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Not entirely true.
I was a brewer on a large scale for a long time. Its not hard to make great beer or whiskey at all. Whats hard is making great beer or whiskey on a large scale and have it be the exact same every time. Thats what separates a good brewer from a homebrewer.
Same things goes for a grower Im sure. Great, you grew top shelf shit. Good, now do that same thing every time for the rest of your career.

chef c said:

Ya, you obviously havent put what it takes into a quality grow... I mean really spent the time it takes, listening to your plants, observing their nuances, learning what it means to to grow the dankest of dank. And a monkey in a tux could make whiskey or wine, it takes a well trained monkey to make great whiskeys or wines. You might think your pretty good at growing cannabis, maybe you are, maybe you have a gift, I would wager that you aren't as good as you think, most growers who can hold their own in a room full of the best are pretty humble about it, and proud of their art at the same time. So yes low to mid, and the definition of said grades will change over the next over the next five years but there will ALWAYS a demand for killer kind, always. I can keep going if need be.

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you sound like someone growing a lil bit of personal, im trying to grow thc and cbd for millions of people hombre. dont bring your super sappy sad organic homegrown attitude in this convo, it has no place in the real world. sure i can grow a nice selection of plants for home use and grow them perfectly, but as a manager, this is impossible. when you grow up then you will realize the big picture and how insiginificant you growing a few pounds of perfect pretty organic primo really is, lmfao

grow up, most people dont give a shit whether its perfect and organic or not, just whether it costs a good price,gets you nice and high, and burns clean. it only matters to you dweeby weed snobs.

I bet you judge all people who can only afford schwag hey? the people that smoke hydro?

Chimone said:

Not entirely true.
I was a brewer on a large scale for a long time. Its not hard to make great beer or whiskey at all. Whats hard is making great beer or whiskey on a large scale and have it be the exact same every time. Thats what separates a good brewer from a homebrewer.
Same things goes for a grower Im sure. Great, you grew top shelf shit. Good, now do that same thing every time for the rest of your career.

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bullshit its easier to make whiskey than grow weed, this is just pure retardedness. have you never grown weed outside in soil with water. lmfao. come on people use your brain. you need alot of fabricated materials and tools to make good whiskey and thats just the beginning of the process, then you have to GROW ALL the SUGAR it will take to make that alcohol.

it would take at least a decade for several men to build all the shit to supply a town with all the whiskey it consumes in a year. it would take one man one year to grow all the weed a town consumes in a year. big diffrerence

Hydroton - I just read your signature line and suddenly all your conflicting, illogical posts make sense. Thanks for the context.

Medshed said:

Hydroton - I just read your signature line and suddenly all your conflicting, illogical posts make sense. Thanks for the context.

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bored today?
care to tell me where my illogical and conflicting points of view come in, please