Economical heat options with LED lighting

Discussion in 'Canadian Patients' started by HotWaterKarl, Feb 7, 2018.

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    HotWaterKarl

    HotWaterKarl Well-Known Member

    So the guy who sold me the QB boards told me that it's best to have the room temps at 82-85 with the LEDs. So how do most people heat their tents/rooms efficiently? If I am saving 50% on the wattage of the lights, but now have to run 60% extra electric as heat, I'm not really saving anything, I'm spending more. So what heat options that are efficient do people use? My tent is like 15X8. The digital ballasts and HID lights currently keep it around 75-81 in the winter time with no extra heat pumped in except at night when lights are off. Now I am looking at having to heat it with the lights on as well.
     
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    Flash63

    Flash63 Well-Known Member

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/CAP-GEN-1-Natural-Gas-CO2-Generator-/173117549064?_ul=CA
     
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    HotWaterKarl

    HotWaterKarl Well-Known Member

    Ah, I guess not being in a NG service area I would need to use propane? Could I attach a tank to that thing? It kinda feels like having a bomb in my grow room but I guess it is safe...
     
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    Flash63

    Flash63 Well-Known Member

    Yes they have both options,propane or Ng.
     
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    HotWaterKarl

    HotWaterKarl Well-Known Member

    Could you share what controller you use? Do you find that setting it for 1500ppm heats the room sufficiently while lights are on? Sorry for all the questions...
     
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    BigHornBuds

    BigHornBuds Well-Known Member

    I don’t know much about LEDs
    But I think running them at the higher temps extend there life.
    Running C02 burner will increase your heat and put you into that sweet spot.
    I run about 1200ppm of CO2
    Most controllers have a light sensor on them, lights on c02 on. This isn’t the best because the plants stoma’s (spelling?)are not open when the lights come on. The plants should be given at least 30/60 min to wake. I run a sealed room ,so a few hours before lights out the CO2 goes off, the plants bring the levels back into normal for rest. I have 100% control over CO2
    Because of the Sentinel controller , would be hard to find better.
    Also with your size room, might want to run 2 burners for efficiency vs one big one.
     
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    projectinfo

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    CannaReview

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    Flash63

    Flash63 Well-Known Member

    I didn’t mean that specific brand ..just suggesting an option,to create more heat,and the dehumidifier would work harder( assuming he has one) dumping even more heat into the room.therfore solving his problem.
     
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    CannaReview

    CannaReview Well-Known Member

    Sure but then a dehu will use up like 400-600W of power.
     
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    BigHornBuds

    BigHornBuds Well-Known Member

    If you got the $$$ Quest Dual 105
    Worth every penny . It barely runs to keep the room in check, where my old one went non stop.
     
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    Flash63

    Flash63 Well-Known Member

    Generating heat has its price.
     
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    HotWaterKarl

    HotWaterKarl Well-Known Member

    I do also run a dehumidifier right now anyways. I may just try running the room a bit cooler or maybe I won't even use the LEDs until it warms up a bit. It's nice to have some options, stoked about my indoor run this summer, never had that option before. Ultimately the most economical solution for the space is a heatpump I think, some of the newer ones run in -30 weather now, and are as efficient as natural gas. Plus they can do AC in the summer as well as heat in the winter. Looking at some $$ though, it's definitely not the most economical up front...
     
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    CannaReview

    CannaReview Well-Known Member

    Just make sure the temps fall within what the dehu is designed to run at, too cold and it wont remove as much water, too hot and it'll overheat.
     
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    BigHornBuds

    BigHornBuds Well-Known Member

    My mini split has seen -40 this yr
    Didn’t miss a beat .
     
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    The Hippy

    The Hippy Well-Known Member

    -36 here
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    My temps are consistently running at about 80 plus degrees, maybe a bit cooler overnight. It is needed to run the room a bit hotter than with HPS etc to get the same leaf surface temperature and encourage good transpiration
     
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