Dutch Passion Fem. Strawberry Cough under 600w HPS

bfam4t6 · Oct 25, 2009

Thought I would share some pics of my girl with you all. She had a pretty rough start, but I'm happy to see here where she is today. For set up I'm using...

5 Gallon Bucket

Miracle Gro Organic Soilless mix

Fox Farm Nutes - Very heavy feeding for this strain!!

600w HPS and a few hundred extra watts coming from hanging CFLs.

I don't keep track of how many days it's been in flower. I just pull it when it looks done. I'm thinking she still has 2 weeks to go. I really hope the buds turn purple like they did on the last plant.

wonderblunder · Oct 25, 2009

My buddy ran the DP strawberry cough with FF nutes...... Killer......... He used 3 gallon pots Fox Farm Ocean Farm Ocean Forest, and had 4 under a 600w. He got 2-3 ounces a plant. Nice looking bud, awesome grow.

wonderblunder · Oct 25, 2009

Is it a clone from the last plant? If so then it should turn purple, I guess the environment does play factors, but the pheno is there!

bfam4t6 · Oct 25, 2009

wonderblunder said:
Is it a clone from the last plant? If so then it should turn purple, I guess the environment does play factors, but the pheno is there!

Nah unfortunately it's not a clone from the last plant. I'm glad to hear your buddies turned out well. I don't think this plant will be yielding anywhere near 3 ounces, but it was also root bound for a month or so in its early life and got waaaaay stretched as well. Don't get me wrong, this plant is growing some QUALITY bud, but it just isn't as dense or as plentiful as I want. I have cuttings that are hopefully taking root, so the next round should be much much better yield wise.

bfam4t6 · Oct 26, 2009

I have two questions...

First, should I continue to trim off the larger fan leaves to this plant? I've heard doing so can redirect nutes and hormones to the buds which is a good thing. I realize, too, that the leaves are responsible for photosynthesis blah blah so tell me, does trimming some of the big leaves off increase yield?

Please do not give me an opinion, please say whether it does or doesn't help. If you've never tried, then I don't see how you could possibly have an answer. I want somebody who has witnessed both techniques.

Second question, does flushing with molasses water really increase yield? Seems to me like all that would do is attract a shit load of flies to my soil. Again, I'm looking for good information, so pretend I'm growing this weed for YOU so you actually give a damn if it turns out right.

Don't mean to sound like a jerky or anything, just looking for good straight advice from knowledgable people who aren't just trying to increase their post count. Thanks all!

wonderblunder · Oct 27, 2009

Hey there, I don't exactly have a straight answer for you on either. I can tell you that I know a much better grower than I am who swears by flushing with sugars. Mollasses or Sweet Citrus by Botanicare. I am planning to flush with the Sweet Citrus at the end.

Hows the lower vegetation on the plant. ANy chance of a pic with the pot included

bfam4t6 · Nov 5, 2009

wonderblunder said:
Hey there, I don't exactly have a straight answer for you on either. I can tell you that I know a much better grower than I am who swears by flushing with sugars. Mollasses or Sweet Citrus by Botanicare. I am planning to flush with the Sweet Citrus at the end.

Hows the lower vegetation on the plant. ANy chance of a pic with the pot included

Sorry for no updates recently. It's been a busy week.

I'll have to give her some molasses and see what happens. What is sweet citrus though? I've never heard of it.

I suppose I could include a pic of the whole plant, but like I said this plant had a really bad start. Basically it was root bound in a solo cup for well over a month and then got stretched like hell.....just don't ask.

Long story short, don't think that my plants normally look this shitty. This is my ugliest so far :lol:

Oh and the other two you see in the background....experiments gone bad you could say. They are both from bagseed.

The two clones in individual solo cups are strawberry cough.

The two clones in a single bucket are white widow from a feminized dutch passion mother.

bfam4t6 · Nov 5, 2009

BTW, I would still like some more input regarding my two questions. Please and thank you.

Redeflect · Nov 5, 2009

I'd have to state opinion... though its based on obvious facts. Fan leaves are good for 2 things, photosynthesis for sugar and as storage for mobile nutrients (when the plant gets low on certain nutrients, the plant takes them from the lower growth/fan leaves and puts them into the new growth). Generally, the plant doesn't run into any issues regarding a loss of sugar, so removing fan leaves doesn't do anything but force growth into the buds. Besides, most plants in nature only get about 6-8 hours of direct sunlight so if you're giving them 10 or 12 hours, they will be producing enough sugar despite a lack of fan leaves. However, it does mean you are removing some of the mobile nutrients that could be used in the growth on top if the plant isn't getting enough of them from the soil. Generally, I'd say remove any growth that isn't getting direct lighting. If all of the leaves are getting light, keep them all or at least most of them... it just means more mobile nutrients the plant has in reserves and that's more important than trying to focus a little more growth into the buds. You could always remove them anyway, and probably get more growth... however, you will risk a shortage of mobile nutrients which means slowed growth.

By the way, congrats on the DP Strawberry Cough... it's a beautiful plant (my first) and an excellent smoke. Wish I still had some seeds or clones. Mine was a bitch to clone... only 2 out of 40 worked and I tried multiple methods. I hope your clones pull through.

bfam4t6 · Nov 6, 2009

Redeflect said:
I'd have to state opinion... though its based on obvious facts. Fan leaves are good for 2 things, photosynthesis for sugar and as storage for mobile nutrients (when the plant gets low on certain nutrients, the plant takes them from the lower growth/fan leaves and puts them into the new growth). Generally, the plant doesn't run into any issues regarding a loss of sugar, so removing fan leaves doesn't do anything but force growth into the buds. Besides, most plants in nature only get about 6-8 hours of direct sunlight so if you're giving them 10 or 12 hours, they will be producing enough sugar despite a lack of fan leaves. However, it does mean you are removing some of the mobile nutrients that could be used in the growth on top if the plant isn't getting enough of them from the soil. Generally, I'd say remove any growth that isn't getting direct lighting. If all of the leaves are getting light, keep them all or at least most of them... it just means more mobile nutrients the plant has in reserves and that's more important than trying to focus a little more growth into the buds. You could always remove them anyway, and probably get more growth... however, you will risk a shortage of mobile nutrients which means slowed growth.

By the way, congrats on the DP Strawberry Cough... it's a beautiful plant (my first) and an excellent smoke. Wish I still had some seeds or clones. Mine was a bitch to clone... only 2 out of 40 worked and I tried multiple methods. I hope your clones pull through.

Thanks man! Yeah that's basically along the same lines I was thinking, so I'm just going to continue cutting off anything down low or not receiving much light. A bunch of "know-it-alls" were trying to tell me that this was never acceptable on another forum. :cuss:

As for the clones, yeah man they really are a bitch. These are the first two of four that have taken. I forget how many other tries have already failed.

NOT ONE would take in rockwool. I'm sure I was over/underwatering them, but still.....it was waaaay to damn finicky.

My Cloning Method:
I finally got a 100% success rate using a method I found in a High Times. Well, 100% with the 16 cuttings I've taken so far. You'll want to find a healthy cutting 6-9 inches long. Cut it and remove all but the newest growth on top and 2-3 fan leaves. I'm using miracle gro organic soilless mix. Fill a solo cup up with dirt. Apparently you can choose whether or not you wish to drill holes in the bottom of the cup, but I do. Next I take a clean 20 oz bottle and add a little rooting hormone gel. It's in my "lights off" room at the moment so I can't tell you the brand. Anways, add 20 oz of water to a .5g-1g sized glob of rooting gel and shake well. All you have to do is stick the cutting in the dirt filled solo cup and water it with the new mixutre.

My white widow plants showed root tips out of the holes in the bottoms of their cups about 2 weeks after cutting. The strawberry cutting took about 2 1/2 weeks to show roots at the bottom of the cup.

wonderblunder · Nov 6, 2009

I have that high times issue and read that. I need everything to happen faster, but occasionally I do lose a few. ROck wool is very finicky. I like the rapid rooter plugs, because you can water them from the bottom. I put out a little bed of hydroton in tupper ware, and then put my clones in the cubes after trimming and rooting gel. Then water with Thrive ALive B-1 Red, (i guess I soak the cubes with this too before putting the clones in). Spray foliage daily with Thrive ALive B1 green. ALways keep the some water in the ydroton in the bottom of dish. ALl is done in a humidity dome.

bfam4t6 · Nov 6, 2009

I may have to give that a try. How fast do yours root with that method?

To speed up growth, I'm going be planting between 2-4 clones in every 5 gallon bucket. One should come out dominant and end up taking over much of the other plant's root systems. It's like a little jump start. We'll see how things go.

bfam4t6 · Nov 14, 2009

Update:

I've included a couple pics of some of my clones as something to look forward to

Things are coming along. As of yesterday, I've stopped giving it nutes. I hoped I've timed the flushing okay??

Let me know if you guys think I should give her one more good feeding or not. I don't have a microscope, but my super keen eyes tell me that at least 2/3 of the trichs are milky at this point. I haven't noticed amber yet.

Heads Up · Nov 14, 2009

bfam4t6 said:
I have two questions...

First, should I continue to trim off the larger fan leaves to this plant? I've heard doing so can redirect nutes and hormones to the buds which is a good thing. I realize, too, that the leaves are responsible for photosynthesis blah blah so tell me, does trimming some of the big leaves off increase yield?

Please do not give me an opinion, please say whether it does or doesn't help. If you've never tried, then I don't see how you could possibly have an answer. I want somebody who has witnessed both techniques.

Second question, does flushing with molasses water really increase yield? Seems to me like all that would do is attract a shit load of flies to my soil. Again, I'm looking for good information, so pretend I'm growing this weed for YOU so you actually give a damn if it turns out right.

Don't mean to sound like a jerky or anything, just looking for good straight advice from knowledgable people who aren't just trying to increase their post count. Thanks all!

Your girls look like they can stand another couple of weeks of flowering. At this point, in my opinion trimming some of the fan leaves to let more light to your buds is a good thing. They're not really growing greenery, they're putting their energy into making thc. They are doing everything they can to attract some pollen. Molasses, the secret ingredient in many a finishing product for buds. Get yourself some Grandma's unsulphered molasses. Almost any grocery chain carries it, it's probably right next to the pancake syrup. It has a yellow label. You can add up to twenty percent weight on your buds by adding molasses. After the third week of flowering I start adding a tablespoon or two per gallon of water. The last ten days I use only water.

Sweet is another of those products for buds and it comes in either citrus or berry, botanicare is the maker.

bfam4t6 · Nov 15, 2009

Heads Up said:
Your girls look like they can stand another couple of weeks of flowering. At this point, in my opinion trimming some of the fan leaves to let more light to your buds is a good thing. They're not really growing greenery, they're putting their energy into making thc. They are doing everything they can to attract some pollen. Molasses, the secret ingredient in many a finishing product for buds. Get yourself some Grandma's unsulphered molasses. Almost any grocery chain carries it, it's probably right next to the pancake syrup. It has a yellow label. You can add up to twenty percent weight on your buds by adding molasses. After the third week of flowering I start adding a tablespoon or two per gallon of water. The last ten days I use only water.

Sweet is another of those products for buds and it comes in either citrus or berry, botanicare is the maker.

Definitely. I've been adding molasses for the past several weeks. I should have started a few weeks earlier than I did, but no going back now.

Does anyone else have thoughts on timing the flushing for this strain? If you say it still has 3 weeks left I'll go ahead and give her at least one more feeding. Otherwise, I plan to give her a few more doses of molasses water before the final water-only flush.

And to possibly avoid confusion, only the closest plant in each picture is strawberry cough. There are two other flowering bagseed plants under the same light.....I'm not very concern with them.

Redeflect · Nov 15, 2009

I smoked the last of my SC buds this week... (the last clone harvested 6 months ago). Seeing this grow makes my mouth water for that strain so badly... it grew a fat cola(like yours) and had a smell almost like a lemony citrusy strawberry. Seeing these pictures is going to make me spend money on some seeds that I don't need :-(

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I'd say you still had another 1-2 weeks. I would flower my SC for almost 10 weeks until I started to see some amber patches. Personally I think my SC turned out most potent when I'd let it get that little bit of amber... But to each their own.

monkz · Nov 15, 2009

dude whoever tells you that you cant cut leaves off is full of crap,
its called pruning lol....
used by many growers including myself.... iv come out of my growroom several times with a big pile of leaves that i cut due to them not receiving enough light

bfam4t6 · Nov 18, 2009

Redeflect said:
I smoked the last of my SC buds this week... (the last clone harvested 6 months ago). Seeing this grow makes my mouth water for that strain so badly... it grew a fat cola(like yours) and had a smell almost like a lemony citrusy strawberry. Seeing these pictures is going to make me spend money on some seeds that I don't need .

I'd say you still had another 1-2 weeks. I would flower my SC for almost 10 weeks until I started to see some amber patches. Personally I think my SC turned out most potent when I'd let it get that little bit of amber... But to each their own.

Yeah this strain is definitely delicious. Some guy mentioned strawberry chunk in another thread and said that it was even BETTER than strawberry cough. Might want to look into that if you're serious about getting more seeds bro.

I did end up giving this plant another feeding a few days ago, and as of last night they look like they're enjoying the nutrients. If the dirt is dry enough I think I will give them one more light feeding tonight before starting the final flush.

@monkz,
Yeah I will definitely be pruning from now on. Thanks

bfam4t6 · Nov 22, 2009

Well they've had about a week to grow. I've topped some two of the clones, and I'm trying LST of the other two. Here are the results...

Layzieboy · Nov 23, 2009

bfam4t6 said:
My Cloning Method:
I finally got a 100% success rate using a method I found in a High Times. Well, 100% with the 16 cuttings I've taken so far. You'll want to find a healthy cutting 6-9 inches long. Cut it and remove all but the newest growth on top and 2-3 fan leaves. I'm using miracle gro organic soilless mix. Fill a solo cup up with dirt. Apparently you can choose whether or not you wish to drill holes in the bottom of the cup, but I do. Next I take a clean 20 oz bottle and add a little rooting hormone gel. It's in my "lights off" room at the moment so I can't tell you the brand. Anways, add 20 oz of water to a .5g-1g sized glob of rooting gel and shake well. All you have to do is stick the cutting in the dirt filled solo cup and water it with the new mixutre.

My white widow plants showed root tips out of the holes in the bottoms of their cups about 2 weeks after cutting. The strawberry cutting took about 2 1/2 weeks to show roots at the bottom of the cup.

Nice, im gettin ready to take some clones from my plants, i will probably be using this method, sounds nice and easy...

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