Drug Porn Extraordinare

This is worth salivating over.



It is without a doubt the most dangerous drug of them all.

It is also utterly lovely and almost as wonderful to look at and hold as it is to ingest.



I am a very lucky man to have such riches delivered to my door.

Lol.. I totally was not expecting that.. Very nice though..

Legendary..

Like this..

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Those gonna roll some nice blunts!!!

I haven't had a cigar in far too long.

That is about 250 well aged smokes. I scored on some old "select 10" samplers so I bought them all out. They go into my collection but don't need to be put down.

I am a Bolivar Fuerte whore but those cuba libre one brutes call my name all too often.


I figure some of these are 10 years old and glistening with oil.

Congrats on the cee-gars but with the title I thought I'd be looking at something like a 10g crystal of Fluff Happy smokin'...

Jersey'sFinest said:

Congrats on the cee-gars but with the title I thought I'd be looking at something like a 10g crystal of Fluff Happy smokin'...

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Kinda the point. If I had said "cigar pictures inside" no one would have peeked. Now these are real beauties, while not as strong as good fluff, they pack a kick that requires a full meal previously to modify.

Smoooooth, and sensuous. Average cost per stick was 6 bucks, not bad considering everything. And figure that is wholesale, you would see them for 12 - 18 each at your smoke shop. I figure if I am careful these will last me the year with only a few small additions here and there.


There is something to be said for the more ancient drugs. Nicotine has it's problems but when packaged exraordinarily well, the esthetics take the high to a new level that can't be matched by anything else.

I have always dreamed that one day pot would be brought to the level of a fine cigar - low levels of THC, cured and recured components, thirty year professionals wrapping perfectly shaped parejos in carefully inspected and devained leaves, blended by master blenders who know their primings and their fincas and their flavor profiles to where the smoker would be assured of every esthetic sense, from weight in the hand to firmness between the fingers to the sight of a wonderful shade of green or brown with a hint of oily sheen on top. the box when opened gives off a rich boquet of luxurious scents from far a way, some instantly recognizable, some foreign. You would see some folks simply appreciating the cigar in their hand like they would a rare jewel, and then the ritual of lighting, the prelight draw and all the flavors there, that first waft of warming scent from the toasting of the food and then the first puff, a billow of white, creamy smoke that (in the case of the bolivar Fuerte) actually FALLS to the ground it is so dense. This could be marijuana at it's highest form as well, though I take issue with s ome of the flavors of candy and ultra sweet seeing to make it more appropriate for the young - still, there are the more savory flavors.


The problem is the power of the smoke. The nicotine in the cigar is gently absorbed through the mouth and so it delivers it's relaxing influence slowly while enabling the smoker to enjoy the effects of the cigar on his other senses, the sense of smell, the sense of touch, the sight of the cigar and even, some say the sound of the crackle as the cigar is rolled in one's fingers (DON'T do this - that is how ametures judge their cigars, old cigars have fragile wrappers that you could damage this way). These things could be achieved with a well made marijuana puro (puro meaning there is nothing in the cigar but tobacco, or tobacco from a single region or even a single "finca" or farm).

But we would have a 7 inch tube of highly psychoactive chemcial being smoked over the course of several hours. One would quickly lose interest in the subtle qualities of the cigar itself. There are cigars that will make one very very sick after the first inch or two because of the amount of nicotine but they are rare and only for the most experienced smokers - I have done my time in the bathroom over such beasts. No, the pot would have to be a special breed with very very low thc in order to emulate the entirety of a good cigar.

I do love a good cigar, but tobacco will never taste as good as ganja to me

I got some decent puffs for Christmas, nothing to this caliber though. I'm sure I have some schwag/mids compared to your OG kush errl

Salivating, when I was in Houston in Oct I ran across a cuban that is from cuban seed grown in the states. For the life of me I cannot think of the brand off hand will have to look in my band collection. Would love a good smoker right now.

skuba said:

I do love a good cigar, but tobacco will never taste as good as ganja to me

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I think perhaps you may never have had a truely good cigar. Not so strange, many have not, and when they are introduced to one their eyes open and they always say "so THAT is why you people smoke these, NOW I understand".

but it takes not only a well blended well manufactured cigar but substantial age. Usually I buy them new and make that peculiar-acceleration-of-our-lives-as-we-grow-old work for me. Most times that acceleration has us turning around and purchasing christmas presents when we JUST GODDAMN DID THAT, or refinishing that wooden outdoor furniture after having done it just last week (seemingly).

At any rate I was determined to do something to harness this speeding up of time and wine is just too iffy. Cigars do it pretty well. You can put a box down and sample it for the next 20 years if you feel you must, out of the same box. Usually if they are age-able at all, you will find yourself having bought a $120 box of smokes that have morphed into a $300 box by virtue of patience.

in this case i happened on to something, these are mostly 10 sampler boxes. People don't often buy those, liking a size in particular and these are a selection of them from 7 inches to 5. I got them in a series in small auctions where people didn't know exactly what they are.

The surest sign of age (in my opinion) is the color of the celo and this cello is DARK. Now the Bolivar Fuerte label was retired due to a trademark dispute (I think) and the same blend was marked Bolivar Cofradia. There was a seriously reduced brand recognition of Cofradia and so - even though the blend was the same, they never got to the same popularity of the Fuerte - and so they were stored here and there until they went up for sale.



Oh, and there are several currencies in this world - one, of course is pot. You are very likely to be able to make a new friend, get a store to open late, have a round of drinks bought for you or simply make a party nicer with a joint. A good tomato will do that in certain circles, a beer works, a rare beer works better - BUT


There is no currency better than a cigar among adult males (and some females) of a certain age. I have gotten front row seats at events, the best table, wholesale prices where others all paid retail, callbacks for gigs, free invites for salmon charter boats - and the list goes on.


Oh, and at some of those situations EVERYONE had Kind bud but NOONE had cigars.


If i am talking too much tonight it is because I am sick and the meds have kicked in.


So forgive me.

stonestare said:

Salivating, when I was in Houston in Oct I ran across a cuban that is from cuban seed grown in the states. For the life of me I cannot think of the brand off hand will have to look in my band collection. Would love a good smoker right now.

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Cuban seeds were actually smuggled out of Cuba in attache envelopes to some of the expatriate cuban cigar masters. It was thought that what made cubans so generaly superior to all other cigars was the genetics. It has been discovered that this is not the case. The best cubans do have superior genetics but the secret is in the environment and even more importantly, the skill and art of the growers and the blenders.


While the best cuban tobacco, and the best cuban blenders combine with the finest rollers will produce what is recognized as the best cigars in the world, times have changed. When the Padrons and the Olivas and the Lllanezas and the Fuentes were working their art in Cuba, Cuba had many distinguished cigars.


When these old experts were forced to move to nicaragua and the Domincan republic and some of the other cuban lattitude countries they took what they had and worked to produce superior products. It took a long time, decades in fact but now we can see that one of the best things that could have happened to the hand rolled cigar industry is that the masters and their families moved to other countries.

Now, thanks to them, we are in the golden age of cigars. One can now put the finest of each country's products up against all but the very finest of the Cubans and come up with exquisit smokes. Be they puros or mulit country blends, the old timers have managed to work magic. Now we have another generation of blenders who stand on the shoulders of the old timers (intereting, these older folk tend to live into their 90's smoking their product day in and day out). The new generation, are able to put together wonderful examples of the roller's art without a single glance in the direction of Cuba. Now, when the subject of cigars comes up and someone pulls out their prized cuban illegal import (if it is not a knockoff), I can pull out a Bolivar Fuerte or a Cain and blow their thin tasting, unraveling, citrusy cuban out of the water.


One day, these cigar maestros will be given the opportunity to use real Cuban tobacco in their blends or be afforded the chance to create a neo-cuban puro and we will see extravagantly marvelous new directions in cigars. When that day comes we will see the dawn of the second revolution in tobacco finery that will be the equivelent of the Amsterdam revolution in Pot. I even forcast that the price of the product will remain stable allowing we commoners to enjoy this luxury and not expect to have to pay the 80 dollars a smoke I have recently seen change hands for some non Cuban Partagas 150's .

The true marvel of cigars is that they are the only fully hand made products still available to the masses. Empty your pockets this very instant and you will find nothing save that tiny carving your son made for you that is not mass produced by a machine and assembleld by some chinese adolecent that is all but chained to her workbench. A good Cigar has been touched by human hands literally a hundred times from pickking the best priming from the plant to sorting, to years of curing, resorting, stripping, re-curing, sorting again, bunching, trimming, rolling, sorting yet again, testing, matching colors, packaging for aging in 50 cigar "mazos", hand built cigar boxes, hand painting or banding the boxes, testing the draw (the only real machine involved) filling the boxes and many times, aging them yet again.


Considering all of this, it is a wonder that a great cigar costs as little as it does. And it is no wonder that the majority of them taste as great as they do.

Oh, and most of the cigar workers make a decent income.