Maybe I didn't explain properly. I would spray the soil like 2 times a day but not crazy much. Like the water would never seap out of the fabric pot. I have been doing that since the beginning and they were beautiful and strong but suddenly droopy. Would you suggest I water them real good 2-3x a week till the water starts seaping out? Thanks for the quick reply btw!
Droopy leaves? What to do
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andy s
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their roots grew and need more water
just got to the point to where theyre talkin to ya lol
ANC
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Sometimes you really need to dig deep to find the problems (its never the weed).
I don't trust blurple any further than I can throw it. (I sometimes call green blellow just to confuse people, cause I'm nuts)
That left aside I would want to use an IR thermometer and get leaf temps, air temp and humidity at the canopy level.
You are the sun and the air to these plants.
I see nutrient problems, but is deficiency or lockout and is a symptom, not cause.
While analyzing the problem I'd check the PPM of the water after mixing some of the soil with distilled water in a cup. Also the pH of the runoff to try and get an idea of the chemical situation. Also a temperature reading, but this is less important with soil.
You really shouldn't need to feed soil once it's going, maybe a small nitrogen and superphosphate amendment before starting and again a tiny bit of nitrogen (less than 100ppm) as you approach transition, as you don't want high nitrogen in flower. In flower they want a shitload of up to 250% more than at the start of P. By then the soil microbes are normally able to access and break down some less available forms of P, at teh start the superP whil provide this.
K should be at about 50% of what you started off with at flower time for increased resin. So some things you actually want used-up more than others.
For now, I'd work on populating that list of test parameters. It is going to determine what (controllable elements you need to focus on).
Some shortcuts that are not solutions but may get you there. is to remove the plant from the bag. shake as much of the soil off. Replant in plain topsoil, maybe dose with a bit of epsom salts.
Forget you are growing weed. Treat it like potplant. Maybe stick some of those fertilizer sticks in the soil and water her once a week if she is dryish. If soil (or coco) gets dry enough that the hyperbaric pressure is disrupted to the point that it doesn't just simply soak into, but want to run off over, fine roots die. cover the soil surface or plant some grass seed on it, they also help feed the soil and make it less hot.
I don't trust blurple any further than I can throw it. (I sometimes call green blellow just to confuse people, cause I'm nuts)
That left aside I would want to use an IR thermometer and get leaf temps, air temp and humidity at the canopy level.
You are the sun and the air to these plants.
I see nutrient problems, but is deficiency or lockout and is a symptom, not cause.
While analyzing the problem I'd check the PPM of the water after mixing some of the soil with distilled water in a cup. Also the pH of the runoff to try and get an idea of the chemical situation. Also a temperature reading, but this is less important with soil.
You really shouldn't need to feed soil once it's going, maybe a small nitrogen and superphosphate amendment before starting and again a tiny bit of nitrogen (less than 100ppm) as you approach transition, as you don't want high nitrogen in flower. In flower they want a shitload of up to 250% more than at the start of P. By then the soil microbes are normally able to access and break down some less available forms of P, at teh start the superP whil provide this.
K should be at about 50% of what you started off with at flower time for increased resin. So some things you actually want used-up more than others.
For now, I'd work on populating that list of test parameters. It is going to determine what (controllable elements you need to focus on).
Some shortcuts that are not solutions but may get you there. is to remove the plant from the bag. shake as much of the soil off. Replant in plain topsoil, maybe dose with a bit of epsom salts.
Forget you are growing weed. Treat it like potplant. Maybe stick some of those fertilizer sticks in the soil and water her once a week if she is dryish. If soil (or coco) gets dry enough that the hyperbaric pressure is disrupted to the point that it doesn't just simply soak into, but want to run off over, fine roots die. cover the soil surface or plant some grass seed on it, they also help feed the soil and make it less hot.
Some shortcuts that are not solutions but may get you there. is to remove the plant from the bag. shake as much of the soil off. Replant in plain topsoil, maybe dose with a bit of epsom salts.
Forget you are growing weed. Treat it like potplant. Maybe stick some of those fertilizer sticks in the soil and water her once a week if she is dryish. If soil (or coco) gets dry enough that the hyperbaric pressure is disrupted to the point that it doesn't just simply soak into, but want to run off over, fine roots die. cover the soil surface or plant some grass seed on it, they also help feed the soil and make it less hot.[/QUOTE]
OK thanks for the replies. For right now I watered them properly and then tomorrow I will go to the store to get some of the stuff you mentioned since I don't have it all. I would also assume that tomorrow I would need to see a difference if the problem was underwatering. Nevertheless , I'll follow your list! Thanks alot!
Forget you are growing weed. Treat it like potplant. Maybe stick some of those fertilizer sticks in the soil and water her once a week if she is dryish. If soil (or coco) gets dry enough that the hyperbaric pressure is disrupted to the point that it doesn't just simply soak into, but want to run off over, fine roots die. cover the soil surface or plant some grass seed on it, they also help feed the soil and make it less hot.[/QUOTE]
OK thanks for the replies. For right now I watered them properly and then tomorrow I will go to the store to get some of the stuff you mentioned since I don't have it all. I would also assume that tomorrow I would need to see a difference if the problem was underwatering. Nevertheless , I'll follow your list! Thanks alot!
whitebb2727
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That may be the problem. Water them real good several times. Soil can actually become hydrophobic. It won't take water. It can develop dry spots that become hydrophobic. Add a drop of soap to your water to break water tension.
Chronic under watering is hard on a plant.
#woke
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Azamax can root drench and is OMRI listed.
#woke
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Andy is right if roots dont have oxygen they dont breathe most overwater because most overwork the few plants they have.
#woke
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Andy i wanted to show a part of my room. Veg looks yellow lights were off 1 1/2 days flipping it. Everthing is 6x6x6 rockwool.
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andy s
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mammoth p isnt p or is that nott what you meant
andy s
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these look great man, ive wondered if i should make a switch from soil, i know i could have way better outcomes lol wht strain?
#woke
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Not what i meant mammoth P is a beneficial bacteria the are 4 symbiotic species.
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#woke
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GG#4 in pic.
But ,SFV OG the 70 day cut.1
I ordered liberty haze, and a pineapple chunk strains from barney's farm. Iv also done just sour dubb, and alien OG It's really hard to push a strain to its genetic potential when you have a multi strain garden Like SFV is finnicky and likes about 15 to 1700 ppm when it finishes But GG#4 Can handle up to 2200 ppm
andy s
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ya i currently have the same issue. i have a few wonder womans, a couple sour purple og's, a couple purple cadillac, and an unknown i cant remember what the seed was lol. i wish i had some new genetics though been runnin the ww and sour for like 5 years now, just introduced the other 2. had a platinum gsc but it died on me during the move, took a clone so i have one of it at least maybe 2 if my other rooted it looks good still perky and bouncy lol so still kickin