Don't fk with China, you'll lose

hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Moses Mobetta said:
One of my friends on Facebook posted impeach trump and so far at least ten pro trumpers sound off. Bitching about Hillary and other fantasy island bullshit. I kick fuckers like that off my page. Unfriend and block. It's cult like stupidity. Fuck trump and fuck everyone who voted for him. Vote Republicans out
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“Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates will donate a combined $100 million to a World Bank fund for women entrepreneurs that was the brainchild of Ivanka Trump.”

This is the very same Saudi Arabia that has been torturing, including waterboarding, females wanting to drive in Saudi Arabia. The right goes on and on years after the fact about a donation to the Clinton Foundation and claim it’s a payoff to Hillary. They’re not ashamed to show their ignorance on how foundations work if the administrators are not Trump and family. They have literally been caught with their hands in NPO cookie jars multiple times. The family foundation was forced to dissolve but he and his family are hero patriots according to the GOP. Hillary and Bill apparently never took a nickel. They didn’t have to. She just gave $275K speeches in 20 minutes to Wall Street and Bill has commanded high dollar speaking engagements since he “retired”. That’s how that side helps keep each other in the green.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/21/529417148/saudis-and-the-uae-will-donate-100-million-to-a-fund-inspired-by-ivanka-trump
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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hotrodharley said:
Venezuela is no different than here or anyplace else when it comes to giving the wealthy twice the consideration they give the luckiest person who’s not rich. After all do the poor create jobs? What are the poor good for and if God didn’t want them fucked why didn’t He give them money?
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Customers create jobs. Never forget that. A prosperous country is only so because it has a strong middle class of consumers.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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hotrodharley said:
Which is exactly why virtually every American company presently in China is in China - to sell to its huge population of consumers. Not just to take advantage of labor because costs for labor are rapidly increasing in China.
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All of which is true, which begs the question; 'what happened to the American consumer?'

...unbridled capitalism and unchecked corporatism.

Here's where we're headed;
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/thom-hartmann-this-is-how-republics-die/
 
hotrodharley

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ttystikk said:
All of which is true, which begs the question; 'what happened to the American consumer?'

...unbridled capitalism and unchecked corporatism.

Here's where we're headed;
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/thom-hartmann-this-is-how-republics-die/
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Fed figures out today still showing that 4 out of 10 families can’t scrape $400 together for an emergency. It doesn’t take a PhD in economics or statistics to read what that says. This during a supposed “economic miracle” with unemployment at lows “not seen in decades”. Of course decades ago you didn’t have Pakistani immigrants buying a Hyundai and joining up with Uber. One of those fantastic jobs in this miracle economy. The media gladly shoveling that load of bullshit as the rich get richer and nobody else does.
 
Grandpapy

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ttystikk said:
All of which is true, which begs the question; 'what happened to the American consumer?'

...unbridled capitalism and unchecked corporatism.
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Do you remember the flood?..

In November 2013, following the Third Plenum of the 18th Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party, China announced the decision to relax the one-child policy. Under the new policy, families could have two children if one parent, rather than both parents, was an only child.


It's against the law to avoid profits in the corp. world, Bush declared The US was to become a "service base economy". and as a result we get what we got.

(That's the reason Republicans in China aren't allowed a voice at the Charmian's table. )

I found this interesting..
If the U.S. Doesn’t Control Corporate Power, China Will
If China is using U.S. corporations to lobby and control the American state, then weakening the ability of corporations to lobby is the only answer. The U.S. government, not short-term-focused financiers, has to be the boss. The era of big government must come back.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/10/11/if-the-u-s-doesnt-control-corporate-power-china-will/

Wasn't it (a RED State) South Carolina that said they didn't want VW building Cars in their state with Union Wages and Benifits?
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Grandpapy said:
Do you remember the flood?..

In November 2013, following the Third Plenum of the 18th Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party, China announced the decision to relax the one-child policy. Under the new policy, families could have two children if one parent, rather than both parents, was an only child.


It's against the law to avoid profits in the corp. world, Bush declared The US was to become a "service base economy". and as a result we get what we got.

(That's the reason Republicans in China aren't allowed a voice at the Charmian's table. )

I found this interesting..
If the U.S. Doesn’t Control Corporate Power, China Will
If China is using U.S. corporations to lobby and control the American state, then weakening the ability of corporations to lobby is the only answer. The U.S. government, not short-term-focused financiers, has to be the boss. The era of big government must come back.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/10/11/if-the-u-s-doesnt-control-corporate-power-china-will/

Wasn't it (a RED State) South Carolina that said they didn't want VW building Cars in their state with Union Wages and Benifits?
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One of the biggest bones of contention in this trade war is the direct support the Chinese government gives to some Chinese businesses. We supposedly want a divide between government and businesses. Har de har har har. This coming from a government that audits low income tax returns far more than they do upper income returns. The same government that over the years has written legislation and tax codes that allow incredibly huge and very profitable corporations to operate not only without paying any taxes here but actually receiving cash directly or using future tax credits. Hello? Oh but all this has been established using the cherished principles of “capitalism”.
 
hotrodharley

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“More than one third (36 percent) of U.S. workers are in the gig economy, which works out to a very large number of approximately 57 million people.

With the rise of Uber, Lyft, Etsy, Amazon Mechanical Turk, Freelancer.com, Ebay, and others, more and more workers are doing part-time work, side hustles, as they are often called, and are joining the “Gig Economy” as it is more formally known. Essentially, for many, it is when you are between full-time jobs or cannot find a new job after a layoff, or just need more flexibility than a traditional job can provide. So, you go freelance and string together jobs on a short-term, contract basis.”

Here’s your frigging “miracle economy with the lowest unemployment rate in decades”. It’s just total bullshit. This is what Trump is bragging up and he didn’t do anything to create it!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tjmccue/2018/08/31/57-million-u-s-workers-are-part-of-the-gig-economy/#24b752637118

These are not “interim” jobs for most. It’s what they can get. It’s what they have and many of them work more than one “job” to get enough money to survive and eat more than ramen in a third floor cold water apartment in some bad part of town.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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hotrodharley said:
“More than one third (36 percent) of U.S. workers are in the gig economy, which works out to a very large number of approximately 57 million people.

With the rise of Uber, Lyft, Etsy, Amazon Mechanical Turk, Freelancer.com, Ebay, and others, more and more workers are doing part-time work, side hustles, as they are often called, and are joining the “Gig Economy” as it is more formally known. Essentially, for many, it is when you are between full-time jobs or cannot find a new job after a layoff, or just need more flexibility than a traditional job can provide. So, you go freelance and string together jobs on a short-term, contract basis.”

Here’s your frigging “miracle economy with the lowest unemployment rate in decades”. It’s just total bullshit. This is what Trump is bragging up and he didn’t do anything to create it!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tjmccue/2018/08/31/57-million-u-s-workers-are-part-of-the-gig-economy/#24b752637118

These are not “interim” jobs for most. It’s what they can get. It’s what they have and many of them work more than one “job” to get enough money to survive and eat more than ramen in a third floor cold water apartment in some bad part of town.
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And no one but Bernie Sanders is addressing this issue.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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hotrodharley said:
One of the biggest bones of contention in this trade war is the direct support the Chinese government gives to some Chinese businesses. We supposedly want a divide between government and businesses. Har de har har har. This coming from a government that audits low income tax returns far more than they do upper income returns. The same government that over the years has written legislation and tax codes that allow incredibly huge and very profitable corporations to operate not only without paying any taxes here but actually receiving cash directly or using future tax credits. Hello? Oh but all this has been established using the cherished principles of “capitalism”.
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But wait- America legalized corruption so that makes everything okay!

o_O
 
hotrodharley

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“Trump has left the door open for reconciliation with plans to meet President Xi on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Japan next month.

But Chinese state media have ramped up the rhetoric.

A Xinhua commentary Thursday called the U.S. government “selfish and arrogant.”

“The U.S. is defying international rules, abandoning cooperation agreements and harping on America first, American privilege and American exceptionalism,” it said.”

Take that to the stock market Tuesday. From Japan’s largest English language newspaper.


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/05/26/business/china-digs-protracted-trade-fight-u-s/#.XOr50KSIaaM
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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hotrodharley said:
“Trump has left the door open for reconciliation with plans to meet President Xi on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Japan next month.

But Chinese state media have ramped up the rhetoric.

A Xinhua commentary Thursday called the U.S. government “selfish and arrogant.”

“The U.S. is defying international rules, abandoning cooperation agreements and harping on America first, American privilege and American exceptionalism,” it said.”

Take that to the stock market Tuesday. From Japan’s largest English language newspaper.


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/05/26/business/china-digs-protracted-trade-fight-u-s/#.XOr50KSIaaM
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How is reporting the plain and simple truth 'ramping up the rhetoric' unless there's a vested interest in continuing the deception?
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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“Twenty-four Iowa farmers snagged less than $10, with 11 getting $5 or less.

Overall, the average payment to farmers is $7,236, based on the Washington, D.C., group's data.”

Corn farmers get a $.01 per bushel assistance check for lost sales. Winning!!!! Even at $7000 this sucks and yet the hayshakers hang with him. Poor dumb bastards.


https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/agriculture/2018/11/25/federal-trade-assistance-trickles-iowa-farmers-hurt-trade-war/2065652002/?fbclid=IwAR3f4ew-j1wm1lHkb6khLdT9U-PIf0kXKE5iknQov-aSY0xurS_qbr8VrPc
 
hotrodharley

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ttystikk said:
How is reporting the plain and simple truth 'ramping up the rhetoric' unless there's a vested interest in continuing the deception?
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I’m still waiting for verified source reports showing when and where in the country the Chinese landed first before heading to Wall Street and the Midwest and holding guns to the heads of the wealthy to force them over to China. Got anything?
 
hotrodharley

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Grandpapy said:
Never before have so many worked for so little.
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Last story I saw on the subject said that over 7,000,000 auto loans are in arrears over 90 days. 7 million cars to repossessed because how many people can come up with 3 months payments to bring the account current? Once repossessed they sure aren’t going to get it financed by anyone else.
 
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