fitch303
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Cops aren't clueless, I had one tell me to buy better than the mexican brick weed he took from me lol.
Disturbing Trend in Medical Marijuana Laws
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MacGuyver4.2.0
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Looks like they are trying to ram a number of bassackwards bills down our throats. 
Here's the one from tonights legislative meeting:
Colo. pot dispensaries welcome state regulation
Proposal would make it harder for recreational users to get medical pot
The Associated Press
updated 2:12 p.m. MT, Wed., Jan. 27, 2010
DENVER - Colorado lawmakers have an unlikely ally in their first attempt to curb the state's booming medical marijuana industry: owners of the some of the shops that sell pot.
Many dispensary owners say they're on board with regulations if they give them uniform guidelines and avert a more severe crackdown like one approved this week in Los Angeles. Hundreds of Los Angeles pot shops face closure after the City Council voted Tuesday to cap the number of dispensaries in the city at 70.
The Colorado proposal before a legislative committee Wednesday would make it more difficult for recreational pot users to become legal medical marijuana patients. It would bar doctors from working out of dispensaries, make it illegal for them to offer discounts to patients who agree to use a designated dispensary, and require follow-up doctor visits.
Some patients worry it will cost them hundreds of dollars on top of the $90 annual fee they pay to register as a medical marijuana user.
William Chengelis said he can't get his regular Veterans Administration doctors to sign off on medical marijuana and said buying pot illegally and paying the $100 fine would be cheaper than paying a private doctor for follow-up visits.
"I cannot afford this bill," Chengelis told lawmakers.
While some advocates see any regulations as a violation of the medical marijuana law passed by voters in 2000, many dispensaries say they welcome the certainty that more regulation would provide.
"We're saying we really can't operate without any rules," said Matt Brown, a medical marijuana patient and leader of a coalition of about 150 dispensaries and over 1,000 patients.
Erik Santos, who operates a dispensary out of an office building in a trendy part of Denver's downtown section, thinks it makes sense to limit large marijuana growers to industrial areas and keep dispensaries out of residential areas. He wants lawmakers to pass laws now before even more dispensaries open up and prevent those with possible criminal ties from giving the industry a bad name.
Another bill still in the works could set up more regulations on dispensaries and suppliers.
Colorado cities are also looking to lawmakers to pass regulations. Hundreds of dispensaries have popped up across the state in empty storefronts, office buildings and even a historic movie theater.
Some cities have passed moratoriums on pot shops as they figure out how to regulate them and wait for more guidance from the state. The Denver suburb of Centennial voted to ban dispensaries and close a shop that had already opened, but a court blocked that move.
"Everyone is waiting to see what happens this (legislative) session," said Mark Radtke, a lobbyist for the Colorado Municipal League.
Colorado already has some rules in place for medical marijuana dispensaries, including prohibiting dispensaries within 1,000 feet of schools, day cares and other dispensaries. Felons convicted within the last five years would be barred from running shops. Dispensary owners would have to be licensed, pass a criminal background check and pay a $2,000 application fee along with $3,000 a year to renew licenses.
The rules are set to take effect March 1, although they could change depending on what state lawmakers to decide to do.
Fear that dispensaries would attract crime has been raised by those concerned about the growth of dispensaries. But police in Denver are discounting that.
Police say medical marijuana dispensaries were robbed or burglarized at a lower rate than liquor stores or even banks last year. A memo reported by The Denver Post on Wednesday says they were hit at about the same rate as pharmacies.
Here's the one from tonights legislative meeting:
Colo. pot dispensaries welcome state regulation
Proposal would make it harder for recreational users to get medical pot
The Associated Press
updated 2:12 p.m. MT, Wed., Jan. 27, 2010
DENVER - Colorado lawmakers have an unlikely ally in their first attempt to curb the state's booming medical marijuana industry: owners of the some of the shops that sell pot.
Many dispensary owners say they're on board with regulations if they give them uniform guidelines and avert a more severe crackdown like one approved this week in Los Angeles. Hundreds of Los Angeles pot shops face closure after the City Council voted Tuesday to cap the number of dispensaries in the city at 70.
The Colorado proposal before a legislative committee Wednesday would make it more difficult for recreational pot users to become legal medical marijuana patients. It would bar doctors from working out of dispensaries, make it illegal for them to offer discounts to patients who agree to use a designated dispensary, and require follow-up doctor visits.
Some patients worry it will cost them hundreds of dollars on top of the $90 annual fee they pay to register as a medical marijuana user.
William Chengelis said he can't get his regular Veterans Administration doctors to sign off on medical marijuana and said buying pot illegally and paying the $100 fine would be cheaper than paying a private doctor for follow-up visits.
"I cannot afford this bill," Chengelis told lawmakers.
While some advocates see any regulations as a violation of the medical marijuana law passed by voters in 2000, many dispensaries say they welcome the certainty that more regulation would provide.
"We're saying we really can't operate without any rules," said Matt Brown, a medical marijuana patient and leader of a coalition of about 150 dispensaries and over 1,000 patients.
Erik Santos, who operates a dispensary out of an office building in a trendy part of Denver's downtown section, thinks it makes sense to limit large marijuana growers to industrial areas and keep dispensaries out of residential areas. He wants lawmakers to pass laws now before even more dispensaries open up and prevent those with possible criminal ties from giving the industry a bad name.
Another bill still in the works could set up more regulations on dispensaries and suppliers.
Colorado cities are also looking to lawmakers to pass regulations. Hundreds of dispensaries have popped up across the state in empty storefronts, office buildings and even a historic movie theater.
Some cities have passed moratoriums on pot shops as they figure out how to regulate them and wait for more guidance from the state. The Denver suburb of Centennial voted to ban dispensaries and close a shop that had already opened, but a court blocked that move.
"Everyone is waiting to see what happens this (legislative) session," said Mark Radtke, a lobbyist for the Colorado Municipal League.
Colorado already has some rules in place for medical marijuana dispensaries, including prohibiting dispensaries within 1,000 feet of schools, day cares and other dispensaries. Felons convicted within the last five years would be barred from running shops. Dispensary owners would have to be licensed, pass a criminal background check and pay a $2,000 application fee along with $3,000 a year to renew licenses.
The rules are set to take effect March 1, although they could change depending on what state lawmakers to decide to do.
Fear that dispensaries would attract crime has been raised by those concerned about the growth of dispensaries. But police in Denver are discounting that.
Police say medical marijuana dispensaries were robbed or burglarized at a lower rate than liquor stores or even banks last year. A memo reported by The Denver Post on Wednesday says they were hit at about the same rate as pharmacies.
uncledav
Member
You are 100% right. where is Hanabel Lector when you need Him ??
indyman
Active Member
That is a big prob i have been sayin that,look at l.a cali now wants to shut down 90%+ of they're coops and want only 74 out of 900+ that leads to price fixing and we the patient suffer,we pay more,the more shops the better it causes there to be a competitive market which in turn lowers prices and brings in better quality,Thats all i have to say, support ur selfs not money hungery gangsters that use there money and power to take ur rights away and make it there right and there right only,Fuck big money america and the fagzz runin it,this country was biult on hard work and small business not handed down wealth and power,the days of man having work hard to get to the top and prove his leadership is gone,AMERICA LAND OF THE FREE, TILL WE SOLD OUT. I LOVE AMERICA LETS TAKE IT BACK 1 CROP AT A TIME THATS HOW WE STARTED THIS COUNTRY AND THATS HOW WE WILL TAKE IT BACK, PEACE BRO!!!
indyman
Active Member
let california take the bull by the horns and we will lead this country in the legalizing of it if nov. bill passes all this shit going on now will stop u will go to local store and get some snacks and some dank and go on home with it just like a 6 pack of beer everybody relax and let the patients of cali start this revolution and ur state will see the money are gov is making and want there cut to just wait and see.!!!!
MacGuyver4.2.0
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Obama openly (on TV even) stated that the Federal government would NOT go after legitimate MMJ patients or thier caregivers. So WHY did the DEA JUST raid a local laboratory that did potency testing for dispensaries? Regular patients are next, mark my words. 
Medical-pot advocates riled over federal raid of Denver lab
Medical-pot advocates riled over federal raid of Denver lab
Federal drug-enforcement agents earlier this week seized medical-marijuana samples from a Denver lab that does potency testing for dispensaries, in what cannabis advocates say is an instance of continued official harassment of the medical-marijuana industry.
The raid at Full Spectrum Laboratories, just north of downtown Denver, occurred Wednesday, said Betty Aldworth, the lab's outreach director. She said agents took dozens of medical-marijuana samples either small pieces of plants or test tubes of "extraction fluid" but left the lab's equipment and did not arrest anyone.
Neither a Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman nor a U.S. attorney's office spokesman would confirm or deny that the raid took place.
The raid at Full Spectrum Laboratories, just north of downtown Denver, occurred Wednesday, said Betty Aldworth, the lab's outreach director. She said agents took dozens of medical-marijuana samples either small pieces of plants or test tubes of "extraction fluid" but left the lab's equipment and did not arrest anyone.
Neither a Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman nor a U.S. attorney's office spokesman would confirm or deny that the raid took place.
Documents that would reveal why federal authorities targeted the lab were not available Thursday.
"We cannot comment on ongoing federal investigations," DEA spokesman Mike Turner said.
Rob Corry, an attorney for the lab, also declined to comment.
Aldworth said lab employees are baffled as to why DEA agents would raid the lab. She said the lab is designated as a caregiver for several medical-marijuana patients in the state.
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced last year that federal authorities would not bother people operating in compliance with their state's medical-marijuana laws, but would continue to pursue anyone authorities believed were using the laws as cover for more nefarious activities.
"The advice that we received suggested we were doing everything we needed and more to be legal," Aldworth said.
The lab, which opened in November, conducts tests on different marijuana strains to determine their potency and help dispensaries provide dosing guidelines for patients.
"It seemed, based on their questioning, they thought we were doing other things here," Aldworth said.
Meanwhile on Thursday, lawyers for the city of Centennial and a dispensary the city ordered shuttered prepared for round two of their legal fight in an Arapahoe County courtroom.
In December, Judge Christopher Cross ruled that Centennial improperly cited federal law in shutting down the dispensary, CannaMart.
Since the ruling, though, Centennial has prevented CannaMart from reopening, arguing that its current location isn't zoned for a dispensary and that the city's moratorium on new dispensaries prevents it from moving elsewhere.
Centennial attorney Andrew Nathan said the city was acting in good faith. But CannaMart attorney Bob Hoban argued that those conditions effectively continued the ban, and he asked Cross to intervene. Cross declined, saying the zoning and moratorium issues weren't brought up in CannaMart's original lawsuit.
"If they choose a different reason for banning it . . . that's a different issue, and that's not before the court," Cross said.
CannaMart's attorneys then vowed to amend their lawsuit to include the new issues, setting up another clash in the ongoing battle.
"We cannot comment on ongoing federal investigations," DEA spokesman Mike Turner said.
Rob Corry, an attorney for the lab, also declined to comment.
Aldworth said lab employees are baffled as to why DEA agents would raid the lab. She said the lab is designated as a caregiver for several medical-marijuana patients in the state.
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced last year that federal authorities would not bother people operating in compliance with their state's medical-marijuana laws, but would continue to pursue anyone authorities believed were using the laws as cover for more nefarious activities.
"The advice that we received suggested we were doing everything we needed and more to be legal," Aldworth said.
The lab, which opened in November, conducts tests on different marijuana strains to determine their potency and help dispensaries provide dosing guidelines for patients.
"It seemed, based on their questioning, they thought we were doing other things here," Aldworth said.
Meanwhile on Thursday, lawyers for the city of Centennial and a dispensary the city ordered shuttered prepared for round two of their legal fight in an Arapahoe County courtroom.
In December, Judge Christopher Cross ruled that Centennial improperly cited federal law in shutting down the dispensary, CannaMart.
Since the ruling, though, Centennial has prevented CannaMart from reopening, arguing that its current location isn't zoned for a dispensary and that the city's moratorium on new dispensaries prevents it from moving elsewhere.
Centennial attorney Andrew Nathan said the city was acting in good faith. But CannaMart attorney Bob Hoban argued that those conditions effectively continued the ban, and he asked Cross to intervene. Cross declined, saying the zoning and moratorium issues weren't brought up in CannaMart's original lawsuit.
"If they choose a different reason for banning it . . . that's a different issue, and that's not before the court," Cross said.
CannaMart's attorneys then vowed to amend their lawsuit to include the new issues, setting up another clash in the ongoing battle.
EdGreyfox
Well-Known Member
Mac,
The DEA was probably just on a fishing expedition based on some agents wild hunch, but they'll never admit that. They'll pretend they had some secret "sources" that indicated to them that the lab was involved in something illegal.
As for Centennial, it makes me laugh. Got to love the way all the yuppies that live in that area don't want to have any less then respectable businesses in their city, but sure do like to use the products those businesses offer. I grew up in that part of town and lived on the edge of the tech center for years, and if those people don't think there is already a lot of MJ being used by their neighbors they're sorely mistaken.
The DEA was probably just on a fishing expedition based on some agents wild hunch, but they'll never admit that. They'll pretend they had some secret "sources" that indicated to them that the lab was involved in something illegal.
As for Centennial, it makes me laugh. Got to love the way all the yuppies that live in that area don't want to have any less then respectable businesses in their city, but sure do like to use the products those businesses offer. I grew up in that part of town and lived on the edge of the tech center for years, and if those people don't think there is already a lot of MJ being used by their neighbors they're sorely mistaken.