Deformed plants?

Kazuha

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I have 2 new plant that are deformed. One is a Nirvana regular free mystery seeds 1 week old. I am posting pictures of the other plants from the same package and age. They have all been planted and treated the same. Same light, dirt, water schedule, and in the same room. This plant sprouted like this, I didn't do anything to it. I thought it was just the first two leave that were going to be like this. But the new ones are coming out crazy too. The leaves are crinkled, round, uneven and the center vein is not in the center.
 

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sunni

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you need to put as much information as possible please

this photo gives us nothing to work with its like pin the tail on the donkey

what type of soil
are you feeding your plants nutes?
what type of lights
how much do you water
how close are lights to plant
what temp is the room the plants are in
 

Kazuha

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The next plant is a Nirvana blue mystic auto. They are two weeks old, two are large two are small. My problem is with the smaller one. The leaves on the first 5 finger sert has 4 fingers and it's curving. I have added the other 4 plant pictures too.

All the plants were planted in a mix of fox farm ocean forest, fox farm happy frog, and perlite. They were all started in jiffy pellets, the autos were put straight into their finishing 5 gallon pot after popping. The regular seeds were put into Dixie cups. The lights are hps 150 watts for the autos and 2 100 watt cfl's for seedlings. No nutrients for the seedlings and just started the autos on fox farm nutrients today 1/4 strength.
 

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sunni

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how hot is it in there?

just fyi never plant pants in a light colored pot or see through dixie cups roots need darkness
 

wiethe20

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Autos dont take nutrients like photos....those shouldn't need any food yet, all your plants....what's your RH? How have you been watering? Is their drainage holes? And I don't know if light exposure would do this to roots? So that's maybe your problem..I just always new roots need to be in the dark so never faced this challenge ...try and search something about lights and cannabis roots see watcha get
 

Kazuha

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The plant sprouted like this in a jiffy pellet, with no light touching the roots. I am not trying to figure out why it happened, because if it was something I did to it, it would have effected more than 1 out of 11 plants. I want to know if it's worth keeping? Has anyone had this happen to there plants? Is it because Nirvana seeds are cheap garbage? I know I should have asked these questions before. As far as the nutrients, I don't have questions about how to use them or if you use them on autos. I just started the nutrients today. The plant has be growing like this for a few days. Is it common for Nirvana's blue mystic autos to do this? Has anyone ever grow this plant before?
 

AGardener

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I have 2 new plant that are deformed. One is a Nirvana regular free mystery seeds 1 week old. I am posting pictures of the other plants from the same package and age. They have all been planted and treated the same. Same light, dirt, water schedule, and in the same room. This plant sprouted like this, I didn't do anything to it. I thought it was just the first two leave that were going to be like this. But the new ones are coming out crazy too. The leaves are crinkled, round, uneven and the center vein is not in the center.
pic 1 is growing like that because of a Zinc (Zn) deficiency.
You can fix this by: using an iron-zinc-manganese (Fe-Zn-Mn) micro mix to solve the deficiency. Zn sulfate (ZnSO4), chelated Zn or zinc oxide (ZnO) will also adjust the deficiency.

Good luck
 

Indacouch

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Overall they don't look to bad get those into some proper pots and make sure you are watering correctly and letting the soil dry you should be good
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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I have 2 new plant that are deformed. One is a Nirvana regular free mystery seeds 1 week old. I am posting pictures of the other plants from the same package and age. They have all been planted and treated the same. Same light, dirt, water schedule, and in the same room. This plant sprouted like this, I didn't do anything to it. I thought it was just the first two leave that were going to be like this. But the new ones are coming out crazy too. The leaves are crinkled, round, uneven and the center vein is not in the center.
I say let it go. Had one similar, like 4 leaves on some and just didn't look normal. Turned out to be the best smoke but, took a long time. Still turned out to be the best smoke ever.
 

Jimmy Sparkle

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It's called SHITTY genetics and I won't let anyone tell you otherwise. The seed breeders still havent got it down but they will tell you that they do. They will also let you believe that if you're plant isn't picture perfect its got to be something that YOU did because they are (of course ) perfect. I've personally have had better bagseed plants than any shit I've gotten from breeders. Your plant is to young to be zink deficient or deficient in anything really. Unless you are growing in straight sand or perlite this is not your problem. I've started many, many seeds in my lifetime. Seeds of all sorts for that matter. Some seedlings are weak from the start and those seeds are culled by farmers.This is no different. I currently have some nice looking seedlings in standby preparing for the big lights. All are growing beautifully except 3. They ALL get the exact same treatment and they are all grown in the same soil. Check it out. 1 popped open and when the first leaves opened they had deformed sun burnt looking spots. This was not from nutrients, light or water. Look at the 2 nd "shrimp" I call it. It sprouted and didn't do shit. The 3rd , look at those wonky ass leaves. If they were radishes I would pull them up and start over. But since they aren't , I'm going to just let them do whatever.
 

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GrowUrOwnDank

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It's called SHITTY genetics and I won't let anyone tell you otherwise. The seed breeders still havent got it down but they will tell you that they do. They will also let you believe that if you're plant isn't picture perfect its got to be something that YOU did because they are (of course ) perfect. I've personally have had better bagseed plants than any shit I've gotten from breeders. Your plant is to young to be zink deficient or deficient in anything really. Unless you are growing in straight sand or perlite this is not your problem. I've started many, many seeds in my lifetime. Seeds of all sorts for that matter. Some seedlings are weak from the start and those seeds are culled by farmers.This is no different. I currently have some nice looking seedlings in standby preparing for the big lights. All are growing beautifully except 3. They ALL get the exact same treatment and they are all grown in the same soil. Check it out. 1 popped open and when the first leaves opened they had deformed sun burnt looking spots. This was not from nutrients, light or water. Look at the 2 nd "shrimp" I call it. It sprouted and didn't do shit. The 3rd , look at those wonky ass leaves. If they were radishes I would pull them up and start over. But since they aren't , I'm going to just let them do whatever.
There is some very real in that. Not every seed you pop is going to be a prized specimen. Like not all animals are born perfect. Or humans. That's just life.

I once culled a top seller. It looked ok, but it was the runt from hell. After about a month I just decided it wasn't worth the effort. It was a single pick and mix so, I don't really blame the breeder or the strain. I had no others of this strain to compare it with. It was just my turn to draw the short straw so I simply let it go. If it were my only seed and I had no other options I would have grown it out. Every other journal I've seen on this gene the plants looked great. So. Stuff happens. My turn. I could probably bitch and maybe get a replacement. But that don't seem worth my time and efforts either. Moving on.

Your little runt. I had one of those too. The cotyledons didn't do right. It had like 1.5 and the .5 was all burnt up on the half tip. Then the first couple of true leaves looked retarded very similar to yours. Even the first fan leaves had like 2 and 4 leaves. It took maybe a month to get 4" high. I didn't have any more seeds so, I let it go. After about a month everything started looking normal. Eventually you couldn't tell it had ever been a runt. It probably took a month longer than it should have but, eventually it looked like what you would expect. It became a really beautiful normal looking plant. And the product and yield was fantastic. Actually to be expected from this reputable breeder, which I have fantastic results using them almost every time.

So I agree with you to a certain extent. I think your plant could do like mine. It looks very similar tho I remember mine looked worse. Or maybe it won't and should be culled. Never know until you try. Maybe it's not worth your time to try like that other I finally culled. Or you don't have space. We should also consider that is why some commercial farmers clone. It isolates the variables somewhat.

Anyway. Good stuff man. Life is like a box of chocolates. We're all just rolling the dice. Some luckier than others I suppose.
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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The next plant is a Nirvana blue mystic auto. They are two weeks old, two are large two are small. My problem is with the smaller one. The leaves on the first 5 finger sert has 4 fingers and it's curving. I have added the other 4 plant pictures too.

All the plants were planted in a mix of fox farm ocean forest, fox farm happy frog, and perlite. They were all started in jiffy pellets, the autos were put straight into their finishing 5 gallon pot after popping. The regular seeds were put into Dixie cups. The lights are hps 150 watts for the autos and 2 100 watt cfl's for seedlings. No nutrients for the seedlings and just started the autos on fox farm nutrients today 1/4 strength.
One other thing. I mostly grow autos myself. And one thing I have noticed is that the phenos can range fairly significantly. I haven't tried them all of course, but I have seen a lot of variation even from the same pack. Even from quality breeders. I would just accept that popping a seed isn't going to work out perfectly for you every time. Then decide to keep or cull based on your own circumstances. Then move on and keep on moving on. Don't let yourself get stuck dwelling on it. Accept that is just life bro. I think your fine. Good luck.
 

Jimmy Sparkle

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There is some very real in that. Not every seed you pop is going to be a prized specimen. Like not all animals are born perfect. Or humans. That's just life.

I once culled a top seller. It looked ok, but it was the runt from hell. After about a month I just decided it wasn't worth the effort. It was a single pick and mix so, I don't really blame the breeder or the strain. I had no others of this strain to compare it with. It was just my turn to draw the short straw so I simply let it go. If it were my only seed and I had no other options I would have grown it out. Every other journal I've seen on this gene the plants looked great. So. Stuff happens. My turn. I could probably bitch and maybe get a replacement. But that don't seem worth my time and efforts either. Moving on.

Your little runt. I had one of those too. The cotyledons didn't do right. It had like 1.5 and the .5 was all burnt up on the half tip. Then the first couple of true leaves looked retarded very similar to yours. Even the first fan leaves had like 2 and 4 leaves. It took maybe a month to get 4" high. I didn't have any more seeds so, I let it go. After about a month everything started looking normal. Eventually you couldn't tell it had ever been a runt. It probably took a month longer than it should have but, eventually it looked like what you would expect. It became a really beautiful normal looking plant. And the product and yield was fantastic. Actually to be expected from this reputable breeder, which I have fantastic results using them almost every time.

So I agree with you to a certain extent. I think your plant could do like mine. It looks very similar tho I remember mine looked worse. Or maybe it won't and should be culled. Never know until you try. Maybe it's not worth your time to try like that other I finally culled. Or you don't have space. We should also consider that is why some commercial farmers clone. It isolates the variables somewhat.

Anyway. Good stuff man. Life is like a box of chocolates. We're all just rolling the dice. Some luckier than others I suppose.
Yes, I have gotten good seed from reputable sources and I too am mostly happy. However, I think alot of people try to blame themselves and lots of people will blame them also for a seedling that takes a shit. Not true. You are correct in saying that my friend, you never do know what your gonna get.
 
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