Dead ants on my plants!!?

Unlimited One

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Hello RIU. A couple of days ago I was checking out my outdoor girls and I noticed a few dead ants on the top of the plant, on the leaves very close to the forming flower. It is one of the sweetest smelling plant that I have flowering right now, about three weeks in of flowering. I only saw the ants on one of the plants outside. It seemed like the ants were trying to get to the forming buds but never made it. Has anyone else had ants die on leaves like that? Or anyone know why? All comments/info/opinions appreciated, thank you!
 

Unlimited One

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Noticed a couple of white flies. I had spider mite problems in the very beggining of the veg stage but I managed to wipe them away and have not seen any so far, but today I also noticed clear spots on some leaves of not the ant plant but on another plant behind it. I will take pics and upload later today. Any Idea what the clear, shinny spots can be? I live in a pretty hot area, its been around the mid 80's to low 90's during the day, and about 60's at night since the beginning of summer, and the humidity is at an average of i'd say 30 to 50% so I dont think I can be mold or powdery mildew. Its also not humid heat, more like dry heat. Central Cali Bay area weather. Thanks for any and all replies.
 

HeartlandHank

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clear shiny spots could be aphid secretion. Im sure that can be a symptom of other things... but around here, this time of year, clear sticky spots on plants (and my fucking car every morning) is from aphids. Wooly aphids are tearing it up right now here. They love the heat and their populations explode during the hottest months. I would bet an aphid of some sort left that clear sticky business. The ants were probably getting on your plant to feed on the sugary secretion aphids leave in their trail. I should have said aphids bring ants. Other than using your plants to get to another location or setting up a colony in your root zone (container plants), the ants would not be there if there was not aphid secretion to feed on. Possibly they feed on some sort of sap in your area, and the clear stuff is sap, im not sure.

Outdoors aphids are not as big of a deal as indoors. If you do in fact have aphids, and you can spot them, you can just squash what you see with your hand. Try to manually remove as many as possible. If you had an overwhelming number, perhaps a pyrethrin spray. Pyrethrin, not the synthetics, the real pyrethrin... Everygreen, Monterray Takedown, Pyganic... No matter how many you kill though, if your area has them thick they will just keep coming back. Just hope your genetics are fairly resistant to them. Cooler weather is coming though and the populations will fall back.

Many aphids can go airborne. They stay on the leaves of many trees and can float in the air long enough to land on something they like. A few weeks back, you could walk under trees here and if you knew what you were looking for you could see them falling from the air like the tree was growing them.

Im not sure what is going down in the bay area right now... but right now we have wooly aphids. They look like a little white piece of fluff. Like cotton or some sort of buds falling from trees. With a closer look, they are aphids. They are actually pretty trippy. In the same way that a walking stick is. They look like something that crawled out of a swamp of toxic waste. Or maybe a creature from a Wes Anderson film.
 

Unlimited One

Active Member
clear shiny spots could be aphid secretion. Im sure that can be a symptom of other things... but around here, this time of year, clear sticky spots on plants (and my fucking car every morning) is from aphids. Wooly aphids are tearing it up right now here. They love the heat and their populations explode during the hottest months. I would bet an aphid of some sort left that clear sticky business. The ants were probably getting on your plant to feed on the sugary secretion aphids leave in their trail. I should have said aphids bring ants. Other than using your plants to get to another location or setting up a colony in your root zone (container plants), the ants would not be there if there was not aphid secretion to feed on. Possibly they feed on some sort of sap in your area, and the clear stuff is sap, im not sure.

Outdoors aphids are not as big of a deal as indoors. If you do in fact have aphids, and you can spot them, you can just squash what you see with your hand. Try to manually remove as many as possible. If you had an overwhelming number, perhaps a pyrethrin spray. Pyrethrin, not the synthetics, the real pyrethrin... Everygreen, Monterray Takedown, Pyganic... No matter how many you kill though, if your area has them thick they will just keep coming back. Just hope your genetics are fairly resistant to them. Cooler weather is coming though and the populations will fall back.

Many aphids can go airborne. They stay on the leaves of many trees and can float in the air long enough to land on something they like. A few weeks back, you could walk under trees here and if you knew what you were looking for you could see them falling from the air like the tree was growing them.

Im not sure what is going down in the bay area right now... but right now we have wooly aphids. They look like a little white piece of fluff. Like cotton or some sort of buds falling from trees. With a closer look, they are aphids. They are actually pretty trippy. In the same way that a walking stick is. They look like something that crawled out of a swamp of toxic waste. Or maybe a creature from a Wes Anderson film.
Thanks for all the info! I hope its nothing serious, but I checked out my indoor girls and found this crap on my northern lights girl. It looks similar to the plant that I was talking about, the outdoor one with the ants,but this one is inside and have not seen any ants, plus the northern lights is not flowering it is still vegging. Here is a pic of the shiny clear-ish/ silver spots.
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Unlimited One

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Did a little research and the shiny spots seem like it might be thrips that are causing it. I was wondering if the hot shots pest strips would do the trick. My veg room is a small 2' by 5' closet, so I dont know if its a good idea to place a strip inside. Please give me opinions or experiences had with the sstrips. Thank you
 

Unlimited One

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Looks like Im gonna try the hot shots pest strips. Dont really want to spray anything since the grow closet is inside my bedroom.
 

Unlimited One

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Will not be using hot shots strips. Read the back of the bag and it sounds like I should have a radio active suit on for handling this stuff. Did not realize how toxic it can be. I should know better, Did a research paper on Monsanto, evil behind Round-up last semester. No warnings or a heads up from no one? Good thing I like to read. Lol.
 
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