Crossing Malawi Gold, Strawberry Diesel, Banana Crack, Early Durban, Hindu Kush, Strawberry Stardawg

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    Finshaggy Well-Known Member

    Hindu Kush
    Strawberry Diesel
    Strawberry Stardawg
    Malawi Gold
    Banana Crack
    Early Durban

    Malawi Gold
    Early Durban
    Blue Mystic

    So here are the Mixes I will be creating, none of these will be final strains, but instead will be “lineages” that I will use to create strains from by either mixing them together or mixing in other strains, and then locking in the genetics. The only way these will become strains is if there is a very good one and I keep it as a Mother Plant and give out clones for free, so that all of them are the same and there is no genetic diversity due to not being locked in.

    Hindu Kush X Early Durban = Gandhi Kush

    Strawberry Diesel X Malawi Gold = Malawberry Diesel

    Banana Crack X Blue Mystic = Shiva’s Bananas

    Strawberry Stardawg X Early Durban = Durban Strawberry or Durban Stardawg (depending on how much Strawberry is retained)

    Malawi Gold X Early Durban = Malawi Durban Skunk

    Early Durban X Malawi Gold = African Gold

    I may also do Early Durban X Malawi Gold, just to be able to cross those 2 cross back or with other things to get a higher and higher THCv content.

    And that is if I just use 1 Branch from each plant and Pollenate that (then cover it with a ziplock bag), and don’t Pollenate multiple branches on a plant (2 at the most, then cover those with ziplock bags).

    But those are mixes that will most likely be made and seeds collected from, during this current harvest.

    Here is the goal with all of these strains-

    Gandhi Kush: Hash making, and Indica effects, mixed with THCv effects

    Malawberry Diesel: Terpenes (Flavors and Smells) and THCv

    Shiva’s Bananas: Terpenes and Bud Coloring/Hue

    Durban Stardawg: Terpenes and THCv

    Malawi Durban Skunk: Tepenes and THCv (this is likely to be the highest THCv Combo out of all of them)

    Strain Descriptions

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    Strain Descriptions

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    And I have not mentioned these on the Youtube video but I will post them here just for people who find this thread in the Future, I also have South African Kwazulu and Danky Kong Females, and I will reveal them in the videos whenever I pollinate.

    I will cross:

    South African Kwazulu X Early Durban = The Zulu-Anglo War

    Malawi Gold X Danky Kong = Malawi Kong

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    And this is crazy, but I can not find anyone on the internet growing Banana Crack, Strawberry Stardawg or Early Durban, and hardly anyone Growing Malawi Gold.

    And no one seems to be breeding Strawberry Diesel even though it is a pretty commonly grown strain. And I was looking for crosses and one is called "African Strawberry Diesel" and it has Senegal Haze crossed with a Strawberry strain. It's not actually Strawberry Diesel, but it is kind of an example of what I want to do. Except African Strawberry Diesel is only 1/4 African, all my strains will be at the very least 1/2 African, and they will have crazy THCv content once I get the other strain in there.

    There is another strain that I am going to mix in in about 2 grows.
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    A word that everyone should know. Every Natural Medicine, every Man-made Medicine, everything that enters your body and goes up to your brain or some other part of your body and does something, is usually an Alkaloid. THC is not officially an Alkaloid, as the official definition of Alkaloid is this:

    any of a class of nitrogenous organic compounds of plant origin that have pronounced physiological actions on humans

    And THC is not nitrogenous.



    But it has been theorized that THC exists in the plant in order to keep it from molding from water, and works something like the oil on a Duck’s feathers, because THC does not dissolve in water, and works exactly like oil, and dissolves into oil. THCv is theorized to have developed in strains in regions closer to the equator because of the UVB rays, similarly to Melanin in human skin; white people are more likely to get skin cancer because they do not have the Melanin protecting them, THCv is the exact same but for plants.

    And this is why Alkaloids all exist. Poisons in plants, Medicines in plants, Psychoactive substances in plants, these all exist for various reasons. And it has been shown that plants will produce more Alkaloids when exposed to harsh environments. For example, if a Hot Pepper plant has branches and leaves ripped off, and is somehow stabbed by nails a few times so that the nails grow in them, or if it has branches that bend and snap but don’t break; it will actually contain more Capsaicin (the spicy Alkaloid in Hot Peppers). This has been tested with Cacti which contain the same Alkaloid that the Peyote Cactus contains (Mescaline, San Pedro Cactus; a common garden variety of cactus that is 1 stalk or a few stalks with a big white flower). And it has been tested with Phalaris Grass/Canary Reed Grass, which contains DMT and 5-MeO-DMT. When these plants experience high stress, they produce more Alkaloids.

    And just for an example of a Medical Alkaloid (and this is how most Western Medicines are made), the plant Datura/Jimsonweed (a common garden plant with big white or purple flowers and thorny seed pods) contains various Tropane Alkaloids, such as Tropine. Tropine is an anti-Spasmatic, and the Datura plant is a representative of the Goddess Kali on this planet, and often times Sadhus will combine Datura and Cannabis buds, as well as Snake Venom and Cannabis buds. Tropine has been altered in the Western World and has become “Benztropine”, they simply added a Benzene ring to the Molecule, put a patent on it, and sell it as an anti-spasmatic.

    But I wanted to make these points for one reason. Not only is it possible to raise the Alkaloid content, and possibly THC content of plants, the fairly new Study known as Epigenetics proves that when plants are stressed, it can actually pass on genetic markers that make the next generation stronger.

    Here are a few examples of things that you can try:

    • Use a Razor blade to cut your plant in half, and it will grow more like 2 plants with 1 root system.

    • Stab a Nail or Thumbtacks through the stalk of your plant

    • Tie a Cinder block to the top of your outdoor plants a few weeks before Flower, and the bottom will act like a support beam, and the side branches will grow as if they are their own plants.
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    And if anyone does not know what THCv is, here is the best explanation of what it is that you will ever get in a quick read.

    First off, THCv is a Cannabinoid. Similar to THC, another Cannabinoid is Delta-9-THC, THCa, CBD, CBG, CBA, etc. THCv is the only Cannabinoid that has reverse effects on appetite. Instead of giving you munchies, it actually makes you not hungry. Examples of Strains that are Common that have THCv are Girl Scout Cookies and Durban Poison (Girl Scout Cookies is also half Durban Poison). Most THCv Strains get their THCv from Durban, and only 2 Popular Strains have been Bred specifically to have high THCv content, Willie Nelson and Doug’s Varin. THCv can also be used for Diabetes because it actually has an effect on Insulin.

    But the Highest THCv Strains in the World come from Africa, that is where Durban Poison is from (Durban, South Africa). And while most THCv Strains found in America and Europe are crossed with Durban (due to the South African connection to the British and the Dutch, hence Amsterdam), there are actually tons of African Strains that are all very Diverse Genetically, but all contain THCv. The theory behind this is that it is a Defense Mechanism from the Sun’s UVB rays, and you can actually increase THCv content by using UVB lights in your grow. Examples of African Strains are Malawi Gold, Durban Poison, Drakensberg landrace, Apando Mystic, Nigerian Hash Plant, Kilimanjaro, Senegal, Swazi, etc.

    An example of another type of plant is “Kush”, Kush plants come from the Hindu Kush Mountains and from India, and again are pretty popularly in use because of the Indian connection to Britain and the Dutch (and again hence Amsterdam). Kush strains are Indica Dominant, and the pure Kush strains are 100% Indica, meaning that they have no THCv but high THC content, and sometimes high CBD content.

    Similarly to Willie Nelson and Doug’s Varin, but in much larger numbers, Strains are being bred for their CBD content, and now there are strains with pretty much only CBD and very little THC. An example of this being done with THC would be White Widow; White Widow was the Highest THC Strain in the World when it was created and is a cross between Brazilian Landrace and Thai Landrace. Then White Russian was created by crossing White Widow with AK-47, and that became the Highest THC Strain in the world. And now every year just about there is a new strain that is higher in THC than ever before, and the same thing is happening with CBD. But that is not happening with THCv.

    Hardly anyone, if anyone right now, is Breeding Strains specifically to get Higher and Higher THCv content, but that is what I am doing. So these strains, and the strains that come from them will be some of the Highest THCv containing Strain in the World.
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    These are two 27 year old Monkeys, the one that was given less food than he needed every day is on the right.

    I personally had the idea of Epigenetic breeding before I even knew what Epigenetics was, and when I learned what Epigenetics was, it completely proved my theory; and my theory was also based on evidence. What gave me the idea for stress breeding was Bouncing Bear Botanicals. They had San Pedro Cactus in like 2006 or something that was labeled “SS” which stood for “Super Stressed”. And since the age of 14 I had started reading everything I possibly could about Alkaloids, so when I found out that their theory behind “SS” was that alkaloids were a defense mechanism, and many plants had been shown to have alkaloids appear in larger amounts when introduced to slicing, stabbing, burning, and other forms of “Super Stress”. Their’s were Cacti that had been grown in harsh conditions, and stabbed and slashed. And the possibility was that that would have caused it to have more Mescaline.

    Now THC is not exactly an Alkaloid, and no one knows if Stressing it will bring more out (so let’s find out). But UVB does bring out THCv, to protect from the UV rays. So there probably are ways to bring out more THC. And who cares if it brings out more in that particular generation, you can get the next Generation to be stronger, with higher THC content because of the stress of the parents. Epigenetics proves this.

    I remember an old grower who said he had heard about people who used to hammer a nail into the stalk of their plant to make it produce more THC. And then someone else told me that they had known an old grower who would take his plants just before flower, and tie a cinder block to the top and stretch it out, then the branches would grow upwards like 3-6 plants, kind of like SCROG.

    Most people breed plants by looking for “Vigor” and Vigor is usually a good sign that it is a good breeding plant? I actually will not water plants and let a bunch die; kind of a “only the strong survive” type test, and then only grow the ones that survive, because the other ones die. With the seedlings I started off with 1-7 seeds from each strain, and I now have 1 plant from each of those strains, because I let all the others die from underwatering, or being taken over by the other ones by being blocked from the light when their siblings got too big, or from the other ones taking over their Jiffy pack with their roots. So I don’t just look for Vigor, I look for Survivors.

    Because my goal in Breeding originally was this:
    I had come from Texas with 3,000 bagseeds or so from some bright green, Texas brick weed that was not bad except for that some energy had gone to making all the seeds. And I was using my Epigentic theory (before I knew about Epigenetics) in order to breed a “Ditch Weed strain” meaning that it was meant to be Johnny Appleseed-ed, and they would have good genetics for people to pull out of ditches, and people would not be mad to get pollen from a good Ditchweed. Basically just trying to make a strain that could survive anything, and basically make an American landrace.

    Now I am basically doing the same thing, but with better genetics. I am going to be giving out seeds and clones, and mixing various landrace strains, and finding the plants that are survivors and have the best flavors and smells and THCv content. It’s just that right now I am not as focused on the survivors, I am just breeding the plants for now, and will be focusing more on the survivor aspect in later grows, once I have a good strain. But I will always find the best plants by letting a few die.

    You know how you have probably had the thought that White people came from Cold, and then someone told you that it was more complicated than that, or just straight up told you you were wrong?

    According to Epigenetics, you weren’t “wrong”, but you weren’t getting the whole picture. Epigenetics says that the likely reason for White people, is more likely a mixture of factors, 1 not the Cold and the Snow like a White Rabbit using Camouflage, but White people’s skin is actually due to a lack of UVB rays; which could either be accounted to the Climate, or living in Caves (like how you can see through a Cave Fish’s skin, and they have no eyes). Then there is also the possible factor of Albinos coming from Africa (Albinos are still taboo in many African tribes) and mixing with the Cave/Cold people, which is called “Recombination” of genetic material. For example, if one of the 2 sets of Darwin’s Finches made their way to the mainland, then on the mainland 2 groups were made because of a Mountain range that separated 2 groups of the 1 set for like 100,000 years; then at the end of that 100,000 years that new 3 species goes back to the island and breeds with the first one; Recombination. Then there is also the factor of things like Sickle Cell and Lactose Intolerance in higher rates in non-White genetics; the Sickle Cell is a protection from Malaria (and White people don’t have that protection), but Lactose Tolerance could be from living on Dairy in the Caves. Cheese and all that is just rotten milk and lasts a long time.

    And all these factors had small effects on White DNA, making White people.

    A more short term example is a test they have done with Mice, as well as the Monkey test where one Monkey was given less food than it needed over 27 years and it was much more vital (fuller hair, standing taller, etc) than the one that had gotten all the food it needed during the 27 years. In the Mouse experiment they took a mouse and had her live in a room with an electric floor, and they would put a lemon scent in the room, and shock her randomly. Then she got pregnant and when she had babies, every time they smelled lemons they would freak out like they were being shocked.

    There are tons of experiments that have been done, and this is a completely accepted Science. And it’s not Human Science, or Mouse Science, or Monkey Science, it’s Genetic Science; so it applies to anything with DNA.

    And just an example of how something like Lactose Intolerance would be turned to Lactose Tolerance. Everyone in a society that can’t survive on cheese because their body won’t take another animal’s rotten milk, dies, and everyone left is the new Genetic forefathers of those people. There may be many things that used to be poison to some humans, no one knows, because everyone that was allergic enough to make things like Broccoli or Beef poison to them, are all pretty much dead if they existed. There are a Million mutations that Humans may have gone through that are actually gone now, we just don’t know because it wasn’t the right mutation at the right time. Or the people with the mutation to accept it are the only ones left. Same thing happened with Ebola and the Plague.

    Just an example of what someone could do:

    If you literally infested a room with spider mites on purpose, then grow plants in that room for years, and breed only the ones that it seemed like the Spider Mites were ignoring more than others. Then eventually you might have a Spider Mite resistant Strain. There have already been mold and fungal resistant strains such as Holland’s Hope, created for outdoor growing in Cold, Wet Climates.

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    And I think people are really sleeping on the Early Durban, it is a Diamond in the Rough and no one uses it. Try to find 10 people online talking about growing "Early Durban" personally. But Early Durban is actually just Durban Poison X Skunk #1, and they used an Early Skunk, so they got a THCv plant (African strains are 14 weeks usually) to flower in 8. And Skunk was a good option because while it's THCv content is lower than Durban, it is present. So that was a great option for bringing THCv into a Dispensary type strain (Skunk #1).

    And out of all the things you could mix Skunk with, and there have been many, and you can also include Cheese mixes because it is just a Skunk cut, this is probably the best mix to start with. I would have made this mix myself if it wasn't available to buy.

    And I am going to mix that with Malawi. So that should be really interesting. And once I mix the 3rd Strain in that I am not mentioning yet, it will be like a perfect mix of THCv. And I will also eventually mix the Strain I lock in for THCv with other THCv strains, like Girl Scout Cookies, which doesn't have much THCv, but being mixed with a plant bred to produce THCv, it could bring it out more. Same with Cherry Pie, and tons of other Durban crosses and Skunk crosses, and even Cheese itself.

    But basically, I can't believe that no one is using Early Durban yet. And really all these strains are rare. Go on Google and try to find someone growing Malawi Gold, or Early Durban, or Banana Crack. Not many people, if anyone, is.

    And I have a both a Female Malawi and Durban, and a Male Malawi and Durban. So I think I am going to cross both of them with each other, just so I can test both lineages.

    Early Durban X Malawi
    Malawi X Early Durban

    (you put the name of the female plant first)

    And then I can cross those with things like Strawberry Diesel X Malawi and Strawberry Stardawg X Durban, and one of the lineages, for example, would be

    (Malawi X Early Durban)
    - Malawi, Landrace -(Durban Poisoon X Skunk #1)
    (Strawberry Diesel X Malawi)
    -NYC Diesel X Strawberry -Malawi, Landrace

    Then cross that with the other one, but with Durban X Malawi and Strawberry Stardawg Durban.

    Meaning that pretty much all of their Genetics are THCv genetics at that point, coming from all different places, with the Diesel and Strawberry mixed in as 1/4 of its Genetics. Then I can mix in the 3rd Strain, and cross the result with one of those earlier mixes and new strains.

    And I will dot hat with all of them. All of these plants will have more than 50% THCv Genetics, primarily being African based.

    Then while I am doing that, I am also crossing Banana Crack X Blue Mystic. Banana Crack has no THCv except from its about 1/4 skunk Heritage, and Blue Mystic has absolutely no THCv as far as I am aware. But what I am going to do with this cross, is create Stain that is just like a Terpene Bomb, and not just any Terpenes, but things like Strawberry, Blueberry and Banana. I will probably make a Clone of the Strawberry Diesel and add it in later, and I will get Honey Bananas from Elemental Seeds, and maybe a few others over time.

    Then once the THCv strain is made, I will cross the new High THCv strain with this flavor Strain, and it should be amazing. Because the THCv strains are already being mixed with the Strawberry, so they will have flavors also.

    And the Hindu Kush will be the parent of a THCv kush strain, which is actually really rare, because Kushes are Indicas and don't usually have any THCv. So that will be an interesting line. I am basically mixing the Purest of the Pure Sativas (African Strains) with the Purest of the Pure Indica.
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    Dominant & Recessive Traits

    Some traits are “dominant” and some are “recessive”. This means that your plants can sometimes be carrying “hidden” traits which won’t show up unless you breed together two plants that both carry a copy of the hidden gene.

    So for example, you could take two plants that grow green buds, but some of their offspring could produce pink buds. This means that the parents were carrying genes that can make pink buds and this recessive “pink” trait was brought out in their offspring.

    Ultra-Quick Rundown of Mendelian Genetics & Inheritance

    Knowing a little bit about genetics and inheritance will give you a huge advantage in your breeding program.

    The first thing you need to know is that all plants (and animals) get two version of each gene, one from each of their parents. The interaction between the two versions of a gene can have a huge effect on your plant.

    Mendelian genetics examines how plants and animals show different phenotypes depending on their genes.

    So lets start by looking at dominant and recessive genes. Certain genes have complete dominance, which means they always "take over" if the plant has even one copy of the gene. Recessive genes will only show up in the phenotype if the plant got two copies of the same recessive gene from each of its parents.

    The figures below show examples of Mendelian inheritance. This is super-simplified, but could help you get a better understanding of dominant and recessive genes.

    Complete Dominance - Let's say that cannabis plants can have a "red" or "white" version of a gene that controls bud color. The red version is completely dominant, and the white version is recessive. That means that (with these genes) the plant can only shows buds that are either red or white. It doesn't "mix" them.

    Let me give you an example with a diagram. "R" is the dominant gene in the diagram below. What that means is if a plant carries any copy of the "R" (red) gene than the buds will be red. The buds will only be white if the plant gets two copies of the "W" (white) gene. Let's look at what happens over 3 generations if a plant with two "R" genes is bred with a plant that has two "W" genes.

    Mendelian Inheritance Example - Complete Dominance


    (1) Parent generation
    (2) F1 generation
    (3) F2 generation

    You can see that the first generation (F1) above would produce only red flowers since all the offspring would get at least one copy of the "R" gene. But if you crossed those F1 plants together, you would get about 3 reds to every 1 white since you'd start getting plants that received two copies of the "W" gene.

    But in many cases, genetics are not that simple. Not all genes follow the dominant-recessive pattern. Often it's not a case of genes being only "on" or "off." They may interact with each other to form new combinations. And to add to the confusion, certain traits are produced by the interaction of dozens or even hundreds of genes.

    Incomplete Dominance - Let's look at an example where the genes have incomplete dominance over each other. In these cases neither version of a gene is "dominant." Instead they partially affect each other.

    So what does that look like in practice? The next diagram shows an example of incomplete dominance.

    Just like the above example, we start with two plants, one with two version of "R" (buds turn red), and the other with two "W" genes (buds turn white).

    But this time both genes display "incomplete" dominance - it's not that the offspring will show just one version or the other, but actually a mix of the two.

    This time, when a plant gets one copy of "R" and one copy of "W," the flowers will actually turn pink.

    Neither version of the gene is completely dominant, so they influence each other creating a "mix" of the two versions of the gene.

    Mendelian Inheritance Example - Incomplete Dominance


    (1) Parent generation
    (2) F1 generation
    (3) F2 generation

    In this case, the first generation above would produce only pink flowers since all offspring would get one version of each gene. But if you crossed those F1 plants together, you would get a 25% chance of getting white or red, and a 50% chance of getting pink flowers.

    But so much more can be affected by genes than just the color of cannabis buds. Smell, taste, mental effects and more are all affected greatly by the genetics of a plant.

    One of the best ways to discover interesting hidden or recessive genes in your gene pool is to first cross your starting plants, and then cross their offspring together or "backcross" with their parents to see if new traits appear.

    Once you’ve identified a trait you’d like to keep, then you can start crossing that plant with other members of its “family” until you’ve figured out which plants you need to breed together for their offspring to always show that particular trait.

    Over time, growers can develop a whole “suite” of new traits that can be consistently bred from their genetic stock.

    You may enjoy learning more about genetic inheritance. A great tool to help you visualize dominant and recessive traits is the Punnett Square (shown above) to help you predict how a particular plant cross might turn out. There are other inheritance factors, such as non-medelian inheritance and epigenetics, that can also affect how your plants grow.

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    Double-pair mating (DPM) is a mating (crossing) design used in plant breeding. Each individual is mated with two others.

    In Fig. 1 a connected variant of DPM is shown. DPM is an efficient mating design in balanced breeding programmes, where equal contribution from each breeding population member is desired.[1] With DPM the number of new families created is equal to the number of individuals mated. DPM allows to efficiently utilise positive assortative mating for more efficient use of the breeding population members for deployment to seed orchards.[2]In comparison with single pair mating, DPM has the advantages that the genes from the individual are transmitted to next generation even if one of the crosses fails; that safer estimates of breeding values of the parents get possible (useful for seed orchards, where tested trees are preferred); and that genes from different ancestors have a better chance to combine.

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    Ok, so I was thinking about making a post about Grafting, then I thought "No, that's not really breeding related, and showing pictures/video of a plant with multiple plants growing on it could be confusing for people reading a breeding thread in the future.

    Then having that thought led to "Well, you could Graft a bunch of plants on one plant and Pollinate that whole plant, and get a bunch of different Genetics"... but why not just grow multiple plants?

    Then I thought, "Maybe you could actually Graft a bunch of Males on to one plant"... but that just makes it confusing as to DNA...

    Then I thought, "Maybe you could Graft Female Buds, from Multiple plants, onto a Male Plant"...

    Has anyone ever done this. Has anyone ever Grafted Female branches from Multiple Plants to a Male Plant, so that you could just put the Male plant in another tent, let it Pollinate, let it Flower, and collect seeds... All from one plant, that isn't a Hermie.

    Since there are Hermies, this is kind of like the difference between a Hermaphrodite (born both) and Caitlin Jenner and other Transitional and Transitioned people, except that it should actually be able to Pollinate "itself" (the Grafted branches).

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    I am talking to someone in text that I am helping with their first grow, and I thought I would post some information on Overwatering/Over Watering in case anyone has never experienced Overwatering, because I only ever had a plant outdoors in Texas; so when I came to Colorado I Overwatered on my first grow, it didn't kill anything, but I figured out what Overwatering was. I was also doing tests like using all my Marijuana ashes as Nutrients for my soil and other things like that, but Overwatering is what I am going to talk about here.

    So, first, there are 2 types of wilting. 1 type of Wilting is the kind that means the plant does need water. In this kind of wilting the leaves will seem to be completely hanging, like dry tissue off the branches. When this happens it does not mean your plant is dead, if the leaves are Green it is fine and it just need water and will perk right back up. For most people, this is their biggest fear with plants. Because most people have an experience where they grew some kind of house plant, and they left for a week or 2 weeks and when they got back it was dead. So most people have this ingrained in their mind as their biggest fear. And if you just forget about your plants for 4 days or a week, sure, this might happen. But if you are looking at your plants every day or every other day, then this will not happen to you.

    What you do need to worry about is Overwatering. So let's say you decide that you aren't going to let your plants dry out, because you have had an experience where that happened with a random houseplant, and this is NOT just some random house plant, right? So this time you are going to make sure that doesn't happen. So you water every day. After a few days, or even on the first day, they seem to be wilting, so you water again. But they are still wilting, so you wait to see if they can soak up the water, and water again a few hours later and they are still wilting. So you wait until the next day, and you water again in the morning. And at this point they aren't growing, they might even be getting diseased, and you don't know what you did because you thought the only thing that could happen was not enough water.

    This is overwatering. The "Wilting" you see when you do this is actually more like what plants do when they are rained on, they are just weighted down by water. When you Overwater once, and you see this wilting, and you don't water for 5 days or more one time and see the REAL wilting, you will know the difference. The Water Weighted Wilting is like a curled claw, like bear claws, this is not actual wilting, again it is like what happens when it rains.

    So do not Over Water. Even with seedlings you don't want to water more than every other day, and sometimes less than that, unless you notice visibly that they need water.

    When you see a plant that visibly looks like it needs water, and it didn't look like that the day before, you are fine, just water it. That is actually a good indicator of when to water.

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    Also, once I am done with this grow and get started into the next one, I will buy another strain and I will start making videos and everything about it.

    What I am doing currently is breeding Malawi, which is said to be the absolute most Psychoactive Sativa by some, meaning it is probably higher in THCv than strains like Durban Poison.

    So what I am doing with the Malawi is Pollinating it with an Early Durban, which is a cross of Durban X Skunk #1. If you look at that Genetic chart, what this should do is draw those Durban THCv Genetics out of the Durban X Skunk #1, plus Skunk #1 itself has THCv Genetics. So if you look at that post that has the Genetic Chart, what I am doing is bringing out the THCv more than ever has happened naturally, because I am selecting for it.

    Then I am also doing the opposite, I will be Pollinating the Early Durban with the Malawi, so this offers 2 different routes, where in 1 the Father is a Malawi, and in 1 the Mother is a Malawi.

    Then I will cross the Malawi and the Early Durban Males with the Strawberry Diesel and the Strawberry Stardawg respectively, and then maybe cross those 2 crosses with each other.

    Then say once I make all those 4 crosses, and cross each pair with their closely related pair, then breed those 2 strains that are made from breeding the 2 pairs, and breed those 2 strains into 1 strain. I will have created something that we have never seen before.

    Then that other strain, I will be mixing that other strain in, and once I explain what it is I will also explain the strains that have been made with it. And at that point everyone is going to want to start making THCv strains.

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    remember when you admitted to getting a 14 year old child drunk and having sex with her?
    Dendrophilly and dangledo like this.

    Finshaggy Well-Known Member

    I may also do it like

    (Malawi X Early Durban) X (Early Durban X Strawberry Stardawg)

    (Early Durban X Malawi) X (Malawi X Strawberry Diesel)

    Then cross those 2 strains to make 1 strain to cross with the other strain.

    And then there is also the Early Durban X Hindu Kush making Gandhi Kush, which can be used to cross with the other strain to create a THCv Kush strain.

    Then I am crossing the Banana Crack with the Blue Mystic, that isn't going to be a THCv cross, but it has Banana OG genetics, and Blueberry Genetics, so I will see what that does, and maybe recross it with Banana Crack again, and also probably Elemental Seeds Honey Bananas. Then once that is just a crazy Terpene bomb I with cross it with the THCv strain.

    Finshaggy Well-Known Member

    And the Early Durban is really going to make this whole thing amazing.

    First off, while Durban itself is a high THCv strain, and has structure and trichomb production that allowed it to become popular around the world, but not as popular as Skunk. Skunk pretty much changed the entire World of Marijuana in the 70s-90s by being a THCv strain that has good nugs. Plus Durban itself takes 14 Weeks to Flower, I think that is the thing that keeps most people away from African strains that are available now. People look at Strains online and first off they hardly look at landrace strains, but they are looking for Yield Size, and THC content. That is all almost anyone really cares about at all when looking for seeds. And when you see "14 Week Flower time" a lot of people don't want to wait that long,especially since it has been illegal and people have been growing Primarily in closets since 1971 and the Controlled Substances Act.

    What the Early Durban has done is bring the Durban Flowering time from 14 Weeks to 8 Weeks, like any regular Strain. But somehow no one has been growing it. If you Google "Early Durban" in quotes right now, you will read it is "One of the most popular outdoor strains" and "One of the most resilient strains", but no one is saying "I grew it" or "I smoked it".

    And the Early Durban will be crossed with the Malawi and the Malawi with the Early Durban. Then the Early Durban will also be crossed with the Strawberry Stardawg.

    And by the end of it, doing the:

    (Malawi X Early Durban) X (Early Durban X Malawi)
    (Strawberry Diesel X Malawi) X (Strawberry Stardawg X Early Durban)

    The ratio will be about

    6/16 Malawi
    3/16 Durban
    3/16 Skunk
    4/16 Strawberry Holy Smoke Seeds mixes (which I have seen for sale for $60 an 8th, and read about people buying for $60 an 8th)

    Then I will mix in the other THCv strain.

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