Covid vaccine not so safe? Video of nurse passing out.

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DoubleAtotheRON

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
im still curious what it's supposed to mean?...how does a low flu rate mean anything in relation to covid?
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Nothing really. I was just stating that claimed effectiveness is not accurate. I feel like they told people a long time ago that Flu vax was practically 100%, but looking at that CDC report, it's clearly not after decades of making a Flu vax. They are claiming that Covid vax (while not 100% affective) is less affective than they are claiming after seeing the amount of "breakthrough" cases.
 
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Roger A. Shrubber said:
what do you mean better chance of not getting it again?
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/delta-variant-what-kind-of-immunity-offers-the-highest-protection

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/hybrid-immunity-people-covid-still-get-vaccinated-rcna1974

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2021/9/14/which-offers-the-best-protection-a-covid-infection-or-vaccines

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-natural-immunity.html

i could link 20 more stories that say the same thing...but you'll just rationalize it till you can look at yourself in the mirror and not feel any shame.

and precisely what side effects are you talking about? do you see daily stories of the horrors of vaccination? do you see any kind of stories about side effects anywhere except white trash racist misinformation websites? a few people had bad reactions, less than have a reaction to the flu virus every year. three people died, from blood clots and one from a rare blood disease...three out of millions...but you'll call up vaers and say thousands have died, no matter that you've already been shown that that simply isn't true. you'll make it true in your mind, because again, then, you can look at yourself with no shame...
do not look for absolution here...we all did our part to stop this disease, while you and people like you did nothing, in fact, you impeded progress.
no one here is going to pat you on the shoulder and tell you it's alright, you're choice is more important than the lives of those who died because they were infected by you or someone like you when you had the virus...
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I'm Double vaccinated. As was a colleague who recently died of the Chinese Communist Party virus AKA Covid 19, his funeral is on the 22nd Oct '21.
A better chance of not contracting the virus does not mean no chance. Double vaccinated people will still get and carry the virus, and they will still die of it.
 
DoubleAtotheRON

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This Covid deal is not going to go away I promise you. It's going to be a yearly thing like the Flu. People still get the Flu after a Flu shot, and this isn't going to be any different.
 
dudeoflife

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What is this braindead, misinformed, ignorant & stupid shit?

This is why the world thinks Americans are so stupid, and this thread is only perpetuating that.

The US is the only place you can get a vaccine in your car for free, no appointment, no wait, while other countries' citizens clamor for the hope of getting one- unless rich.

If your inbred, unvaccinated ass dies from Covid, you died because you believe everything you see on the internet, and that serves you right. You have no excuse for this. See above in bold.
 
DoubleAtotheRON

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dudeoflife said:
Covid is not the flu. You've had over two years to understand this point. It is NOT - repeat - NOT even worth comparing. Stop spreading misinformation.
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Ok!.. calm down man!... I already said Im good with it. That's the good thing about America, is we have Freedom of choice (not really). But!, if you want a vax, get one.. if you don't, then don't. We need less people anyways. (insert sarcasm here)
 
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Roger.... Thinking about all this, IF (and I never would) I lived in a highly populated area, I might change my mind. But there are times when we don't leave the Compound for days at a time. Paige went 18 days once, and never left our little 512,000 sq ft. We buy bulk stuff online, and have more minimal exposure than 99.9% of the population... Im guessing. But yeah, if I lived in NY, or Chicago, etc... It may be something I would have to weigh heavy on.
 
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redhawk429

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
why wouldn't they? they've never given a damn about the safety of their people, they all come second to the welfare of the state. if china can maneuver itself into a better position during this thing, they would be insane not to. not saying i'm happy about it, but they're world operators, one of the big three powers, and they're much less concerned about the health and welfare of their workers, so full steam ahead, there are only 1.4 billion of them, if a few thousand, or even a few hundred thousand drop dead, no problem, we got more....
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I agree it is logical to take advantage of your competitors that are disadvantaged for what ever reason it is just a little suspicious that the virus that caused that disadvantage originated in China and has benefitted them greatly.
 
DoubleAtotheRON

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dudeoflife said:
Haha. Big fan of Darwin.

Fair enough.

Well, except the for that simple fact that if the majority of Americans were to mask up actually cooperate and not whine about freedom, the numbers would be much more favorable than they are today,
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Who knows. I see so much conflicting information from WHO/CDC etc. they'll post different numbers of cases/deaths on one site, and different ones on another. Im really one of these "don't believe anything you hear, and half of what you see" type of people. I have friends across the World and stay in contact with them. Funny thing is the difference in what thier media tells them, and what our media tells us. It's roughly the same story, but they put thier own twist on things. But hey.. it's thier job to shock and awe you to death. The news business is a business after all.
 
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DoubleAtotheRON said:
Roger.... Thinking about all this, IF (and I never would) I lived in a highly populated area, I might change my mind. But there are times when we don't leave the Compound for days at a time. Paige went 18 days once, and never left our little 512,000 sq ft. We buy bulk stuff online, and have more minimal exposure than 99.9% of the population... Im guessing. But yeah, if I lived in NY, or Chicago, etc... It may be something I would have to weigh heavy on.
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dudeoflife

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DoubleAtotheRON said:
Who knows. I see so much conflicting information from WHO/CDC etc. they'll post different numbers of cases/deaths on one site, and different ones on another. Im really one of these "don't believe anything you hear, and half of what you see" type of people. I have friends across the World and stay in contact with them. Funny thing is the difference in what thier media tells them, and what our media tells us. It's roughly the same story, but they put thier own twist on things.
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I definitely understand your point of view.

Believe me- I'm pissed at everyone and every gov't entity just about.

This is almost two years of pent up frustration, almost two years of not taking my kids out to eat at a restaurant. I miss the old life. It sucks.

The CDC has REALLY fucked up and largely responsible for this -- the mixed messages all throughout this pandemic -- "Need to/Don't need to wash hands", "Need to/Don't need to mask up indoors/outdoors", "The vaccine is/is not dangerous", "You need/don't need a booster".

That alone has set the stage for SO MUCH misinformation that we see out there. And people make up their minds pretty early - depending on when and how they get the information.

And it takes a LOT of new information to change minds, whether the initial info is correct or not.

TLDR;
Basically, we're pretty much fucked and this disease is gonna be around for a while.
 
DoubleAtotheRON

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dudeoflife said:
I definitely understand your point of view.

Believe me- I'm pissed at everyone and every gov't entity just about.

This is almost two years of pent up frustration, almost two years of not taking my kids out to eat at a restaurant. I miss the old life. It sucks.

The CDC has REALLY fucked up and largely responsible for this -- the mixed messages all throughout this pandemic -- "Need to/Don't need to wash hands", "Need to/Don't need to mask up indoors/outdoors", "The vaccine is/is not dangerous", "You need/don't need a booster".

That alone has set the stage for SO MUCH misinformation that we see out there. And people make up their minds pretty early - depending on when and how they get the information.

And it takes a LOT of new information to change minds, whether the initial info is correct or not.

TLDR;
Basically, we're pretty much fucked and this disease is gonna be around for a while.
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Well said sir!
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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redhawk429 said:
I'm Double vaccinated. As was a colleague who recently died of the Chinese Communist Party virus AKA Covid 19, his funeral is on the 22nd Oct '21.
A better chance of not contracting the virus does not mean no chance. Double vaccinated people will still get and carry the virus, and they will still die of it.
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yeah...and? i never said you couldn't get it if you were vaccinated, you just have a much lower chance, and a much better chance of not requiring hospitalization..
 
DoubleAtotheRON

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dudeoflife said:
I definitely understand your point of view.

Believe me- I'm pissed at everyone and every gov't entity just about.

This is almost two years of pent up frustration, almost two years of not taking my kids out to eat at a restaurant. I miss the old life. It sucks.

The CDC has REALLY fucked up and largely responsible for this -- the mixed messages all throughout this pandemic -- "Need to/Don't need to wash hands", "Need to/Don't need to mask up indoors/outdoors", "The vaccine is/is not dangerous", "You need/don't need a booster".

That alone has set the stage for SO MUCH misinformation that we see out there. And people make up their minds pretty early - depending on when and how they get the information.

And it takes a LOT of new information to change minds, whether the initial info is correct or not.

TLDR;
Basically, we're pretty much fucked and this disease is gonna be around for a while.
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Kinda like the egg ordeal from the FDA...
1999: DO NOT EAT EGGS!! THEY ARE FILLED WITH CHOLESTEROL THAT WILL CLOG YOUR ARTERIES AND GIVE YOU A HEART ATTACK!!!
2005: EAT MORE EGGS IN YOUR DIET! THEY ARE FULL OF QUALITY PROTEIN THAT'S GOOD FOR YOUR OVERALL HEALTH AND FITTNESS!!
 
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