Couple Of Cloning Questions...

Alright well i got a couple questions hopefully someone can answer lol. first can you take a clone place it straight into 12/12 to sex it or does it need roots first?.. since the clones are taken from a fairly mature plant can i mist them with fox farm grow big like i do the normal plants? third will misting it with grow big be useless untill it has roots?.. fourth its in a bubble machine can i put grow big in the water or anything in the water to help? well for now thats all i can think of.. Thanks

Yeah, you can put a cutting in 12/12 and it will revert to flowering, and will root at the same time. Better/faster to let the cutting grow a few roots before initiating flowering though. This can be done in a couple of days under ideal conditions. If you have a healthy mother you shouldn't have to foliar feed cuttings, and if you do, wait until you see yellowing of the leaves or other signs of deficiency. Use 1/4 strength, it should be plenty. Also make sure to rinse your cuttings by spraying them with fresh water after they have dried after foliar feeding to wash any salts off the leaves. Again, you can use a diluted nutrient solution to foliar feed or can add it to your resevoir at 1/4 strength but only after a couple days in fresh water and they seem like they need it. Healthy mothers/clean conditions=healthy clones

thanks for the great info. i just thought of another question im using a 24" wide spectrum plant and aquraium light for the clones it was the only one walmart had and it didnt say what kelvin rating it is.. it says its good for growth and flowering.. will this light work for me? thanks..

Should work for a few clones, I don't know if I would veg and flower under it. Buy a four foot fluorescent and put 1 warm/soft white and 1 cool white four foot bulb in it and you can probably get a decent return. I buy mine from Walmart for under $20, fixture and 4 bulbs since they come in packs of two. Just buy 2 fixtures @ $8.88 each, I think.

alright ya this setup is just for my clone box. i got a 4 foot 2 tube floru with a cool one and a warm one like you said the room is lined in mylar along with the top of my clone box and i have a few cfl's along with that 4 foot fluro.. got another question.. can i place my mother under a single 23 watt daylight cfl and expect her to grow to get a couple clones every 2-3 weeks or should i use a couple cfls for the mom. right now she is probablly 2-3 feet tall..

Healthy mothers=healthy clones. Give her as much light as you can.

alright sounds like a plan lol

I was wondering if anyone could walk me through the process of start to finish on how to do clones, what to use, how to build the box they should be in, what kind of light, how much water and when, etc.....

tumuchtman said:

I was wondering if anyone could walk me through the process of start to finish on how to do clones, what to use, how to build the box they should be in, what kind of light, how much water and when, etc.....

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I got this info from a very reputable source. Hope this helps:

For more experienced gardeners, aerocloners are terrific. While easy to setup, if problems occur, novice gardeners risk losing a batch of cuttings instead of a few if they can't quickly diagnose and treat symptoms.

Any form of fluorescent lighting is best for cuttings. While HID's will work, they can be a bit intense for these young plants. Remember, they need to grow down before they can shoot up.

For an easy and simple setup, you'll need a dome $6.99, a tray $1.99, spray bottle $3.99, starter plugs $6.99-$22.99, cloning gel $9.99-$24.99, and cloning solution $9.99-$24.99. All of these products will last for multiple cloning sessions. (prices are from my local hydro store)

Mix one gallon of water with cloning solution. Soak starter medium a minimum of 30 minutes before taking cuttings. Avoid standing water in your cutting tray.

Take a cap from a 20oz bottle and fill it about 1/3 of the way with rooting gel. Isolating the gel you're using today from the gel you'll use later greatly reduces the chances of bacterial formation that can render the gel useless.

Next, take your cutting. You want a cutting approximately 3-5 inches tall. Ideally, you should cut just below a shoot at a 45 degree angle. Trim the shoot, dunk cut end in gel, and place gelled end with shoot stump into soaked cube or plug. Cover tray with dome and keep vents closed, creating a humid incubator of sorts for your young cuttings.

When the cutting is taken, the plant is faced with a difficult decision. When under light, the big leaves at the top of the cutting are demanding nutrients to grow. However, this is also the time when it is trying to send nutrients to the cut end for root development.

Trimming back the larger leaves in addition to spraying water on the remaining leaves once a day eases this burden and allows the plant to focus more energy (nutrients) on root development. Following this procedure usually results in less drooping and quicker rooting.

And this:

Once they've found a variety they enjoy, many gardeners elect to take exact genetic replicas in the form of clones/cuttings to secure future harvests of similar quality. Some plants are much easier than others to clone and so experimentation is highly recommended.

Generally speaking, most plants have higher success rates when cloned during their growth phase. If you are attempting to clone a plant that produces fruits and/or flowers, either take cuttings before they enter flowering or simply set aside a mother plant that will remain in your vegetative area for clone production. Typically, you are looking for shoots with 1-3 leaf sets that are approximately 3-6 inches tall.

The cheapest and easiest way to take cuttings and still have success requires a plant tray/flat, a plastic dome, fluorescent lighting, starter cubes (rockwool/starter plugs), cloning gel, and rooting solution. You can purchase all of these new for approximately $100. In the winter, you will also want a heating mat, $28.

Next, prepare your cutting station. Mix your rooting solution with water and then pre-soak your starter cubes with the mixture. Put your fluorescent lights approximately 3 inches above the top of the plastic dome which sits on tray. Put your lights on a timer for 18 hours on, 6 hours off. Place a portion of rooting gel into a separate container to keep any bacteria out of your main container. A 20oz bottle cap works great.

Cut your 3-6" shoot at a 45 degree angle with either sharp scissors or a razor blade and immediately stick the cut end in the rooting gel. Next, place the gel end of the cutting into the pre-soaked starter cube and place onto tray under dome. If there are more than two large leaves, cut back to two. Large leaves redirect nutrients away from root formation. Repeat this process until you have the desired number of clones.

We highly recommend Jump Start rooting solution. You can pre-soak your cubes in a Jump Start mixture and also mix as a foliar spray. Spraying your clones with this mix once a day with result in faster root development. Depending on the plant your are cloning, you can typically see roots anywhere from 10-21 days.

Advanced growers are using aerocloners, an aeroponic cloning method that has been shown to show roots in as little as 7-8 days. This method requires a little more care and investment. Please contact us at 573-474-4769 if you would like more information on this method.

Also see pp. 257-262 in the Cannabible

What I use to do is get a styrofoam cooler at the liquor store and a 50 pack of grow plugs. (only 45 will fit) This works great with a fluorescent light! Cut notches where the handels are so you can put the the light on top of the cooler. Then put the lid over the light. This will help keep in moisture. It works realy well since the walls of the cooler are white it reflects a lot of light. Mist once daily and in about a week you will have roots!

I use to do a lot of traveling up and down the state. At the auto part store you can but a power converter for about $15. Now your clones are ready for that 10 hour drive!

Cooler: $5.00
Grow plugs: $12.00
Cloning gel: $20.00

If you already have the light then you can make 45 clones for less than $40.00!

NOTE: You won't need a heating mat for this. The fluorescent light gives off very little heat. With the lid cracked open it will hold the perfect amount of heat and moisture! (its insulated)

Blunted1 said:

What I use to do is get a styrofoam cooler at the liquor store and a 50 pack of grow plugs. (only 45 will fit) This works great with a fluorescent light! Cut notches where the handels are so you can put the the light on top of the cooler. Then put the lid over the light. This will help keep in moisture. It works realy well since the walls of the cooler are white it reflects a lot of light. Mist once daily and in about a week you will have roots!

I use to do a lot of traveling up and down the state. At the auto part store you can but a power converter for about $15. Now your clones are ready for that 10 hour drive!

Cooler: $5.00
Grow plugs: $12.00
Cloning gel: $20.00

If you already have the light then you can make 45 clones for less than $40.00!

NOTE: You won't need a heating mat for this. The fluorescent light gives off very little heat. With the lid cracked open it will hold the perfect amount of heat and moisture! (its insulated)

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o.k. Not to be a bitch, but why the fuck would you want to bring your marijuana cuttings with you on a fucking 10 hour drive? Hope you have current plates, and good luck explaining yourself if you get pulled over.

o.k. Not to be a bitch, but why the fuck would you want to bring your marijuana cuttings with you on a fucking 10 hour drive? Hope you have current plates, and good luck explaining yourself if you get pulled over.

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Uhm... more importantly were they in back, buckled-up in a car seat?! Safety first with your babies.

sohi said:

Uhm... more importantly were they in back, buckled-up in a car seat?! Safety first with your babies.

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lol or you could get one of those baby on board" bumber stickers...or a "clones on board"

Thanks for the response man I appreciate it. I'm going to try this on Saturday so Ill let you know how it goes....

porchmonkey4life said:

o.k. Not to be a bitch, but why the fuck would you want to bring your marijuana cuttings with you on a fucking 10 hour drive? Hope you have current plates, and good luck explaining yourself if you get pulled over.

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Why not? I pick up certain strains I want from breeders or clubs. In my opinion its safer than having seeds flow through a Federal business. (the post office) I make a nice trip out of it too! And if I do get pulled over I show the PIG my prescription.

If I just took the cuttings and they haven't rooted they can't consider that a plant. Either way I'm safe, and so are my babies!

If you do gorilla growing your going to have to drive with your plants...Whats the difference?

I guess I don't know about all that...just be careful and don't do anything stupid. Good thing you have a prescription-any advice on getting one of those for myself? If you don't mind, what's your prescription for??

You need to have a pre-existing condition that has been documented by your doctor. Back problems, migrain, arthritis, anxiety........... Most doctors don't want to put their reputation on the line to give you a prescription for herb. There are very few that will do this for you. Find one on the NORML web site. When you go to your appointment bring your records and you shouldn't have any problems.

Seems like almost impossible. I doubt I'd get a prescription just for psychological issues. My disorder (BPD) doesn't even have many prescription meds, and even the psychotherapy for it is hard to come by. But I know that when I smoke weed, I don't think about how much I hate other people and myself, and I don't have destructive urges.

You know thinking like that will give you a migrain! Better go to the doctor and tell him!

See, the problem with the medical system is we are already treating our ailments on our own. So when you go to the doctor to ask for a prescription they think there is nothing wrong with you.