Constable saw my plants after break in

schuylaar

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The Fifth Amendment reads, in part, "No person shall be... compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...." These amendments provide the foundation for the rights that protect all U.S. Citizens from intrusive law enforcement practices. If an officer violates your rights then any evidence discovered as a result of that violation must be suppressed from the evidence at trial. This is accomplished by filing a motion to suppress with the trial judge. Even if an officer obtained a warrant prior to searching, if that warrant is defective or not supported by probable cause, then the evidence must be suppressed. Often times, after the fruits of an illegal detention, interrogation or search are suppressed, the government is left with very little evidence and the charges are dismissed.
1. Don't Leave Contraband in Plain View
Although law enforcement officers must obtain a warrant before they can conduct a privacy-invading search, any illicit material that can be plainly seen by any person from a non-intrusive vantage point is subject to confiscation. An arrest and a valid warrant to search the rest of the area is likely to ensue. A "roach" in the ashtray, a pipe or baggie on the coffee table, or a joint being smoked in public are common mistakes which all too-frequently lead to arrests.


2. Never Consent
Many individuals arrested on marijuana charges could have avoided that arrest by exercising their Fourth Amendment rights. If a law enforcement officer asks for your permission to search, it is usually because: (1) there is not enough evidence to obtain a search warrant; or (2) the officer does not feel like going through the hassle of obtaining a warrant. Law enforcement officers are trained to intimidate people into consenting to searches. If you do consent, you waive your constitutional protection and the officers may search and seize items without further authorization. If officers find contraband, they will arrest you.
If you do not consent to a search, the officer must either release you or detain you and attempt to get a warrant. The fact that you refuse to consent does not give the officer grounds to obtain a warrant or further detain you.
An officer can obtain a search warrant only from a judge or magistrate and only upon a showing of "probable cause." Probable cause requires an officer to articulate information that would cause a reasonable person to believe that a crime has been or is being committed and that evidence of that involvement can be found within the object of the search.
There are exceptions to the search warrant requirement which permit an officer to search an area without a warrant or consent under certain circumstances. The important thing for you to remember is never to consent to a search or talk with an officer if you want to preserve your rights.
If an officer asks to search you or an area belonging to you or over which you are authorized to control, you should respond:
"I do not consent to a search of my [person, baggage, purse, luggage, vehicle, house, blood, etc.] I do not consent to this contact and do not want to answer any questions. If I am not under arrest, I would like to go now (or be left alone)."

So there you go, he coulda fried your ass for cultivation and intent to distribute. You have him access to your home and if he sees contraband a warrant is not needed!
I included a line to be used if ever hassled by police. This is your constitutional right to peacefully resist a unlawful search and arrest.
You owe that cop a donut and a thank you!
tell me..is it plain view when you're standing in the doorway (cracked open) for a cop to stand on his tippy toes and try to look around the sides of me to see inside my home?

that's what good cop was doing and i guarantee you if i had something within his sight he would have used that as probable cause..
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
He might be waiting for you to grow those seedlings out to full and come back in a couple months and get a real bust. Plants and roots, its all weight to them. If he busted you then do you really think it would be a big bust to them, a bunch of small vegged plants.. Hes waiting for you to grow them babys out full so he can say he busted someone with 10 pounds street value at 50,000$. Catch my drift. Cut down and move shop it really isn't worth it my friend. Good Luck.
i did throw them away however, if they were waiting for seedlings to grow out they're too late.
 

redeyedfrog

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If you are going to grow its best to understand your constitutional rights and be smart enough to know when to pack up and go.
if you get robbed shut up and live with it, if you fight with your husband/ wife loudly don't grow period.
if you grows shut your fu$&@)! Mouth don't tella soul. They are very simple rules, andif you live in pinellas county Florida do not drive your car into the parking lot of a hydro shop, park a block away and walk in, you'll enjoy the exercise.
Im in Australia but grew up in Tampa st Pete and the cops are truly vicious, my dad still grows there and he buys his gear online.
again loose lips sink ships guys and gals it's not rocket science
 

schuylaar

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Yes it is mate and he will lie and say he was suspicious of a odor. Whether he was or not
to the best of my knowledge, your not allowed to use "suspicious odor"..

EDIT: i even asked the cop what he was doing..then he stopped trying to look inside:lol:
 

pSi007

Active Member
Hey Sch, I hope I can interject without offense to anyone. The "suspicious odor", is a witness testimony and everyone has the right to declare a witness to a potential crime.

Medical cannabis which has NOT been atomized and smoked is not considered a serious health violation and is not considered a harmful substance unless the smell is overwhelming to the senses. I think the biggest protocol to follow regarding cannabis possession and usage is responsibility. It may be safer than alcohol and cigs but smoke lingers... The ingestion phase can offend, always take notice to foul smoke 100x more than a stinky bag. :)
 

vostok

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In Russia we deal with things differently, bottom line is move in with your girl as you rent another place as the grow room, teel know one, but is obvious you were betrayed by close friend
 

redeyedfrog

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If they can clearly smell marijuana smoke and it's coming from your place when you open the door it's more than enough probable cause to obtain a warrant, but not enough to search on the spot
 
If they can clearly smell marijuana smoke and it's coming from your place when you open the door it's more than enough probable cause to obtain a warrant, but not enough to search on the spot
exactly. He may want you to think he didn't see or was doing you a kindness, but mayhaps he shows up again in 3 months, knocks on the door and get a probable cause from a "whiff" of something he smells; or smelled 3 months ago.
 
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