Comparing two setups

Flowki

Flowki

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I would like opinions if this vert setup would be better than the standard horizontal setup shown. Please leave out comparison to the circular vert layouts and focus on these two shown.



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The above vert setup technically has surface area of 12sqF






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This is the horizontal layout covering 6sqr foot of canopy.

The vert setup takes up some 3foot more floor space in length but it allows an extra foot in plant height while also standing to double the light coverage. Or is this wrong.
 
Flowki

Flowki

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Is the questions not clear or nobody has an answer?. To elaborate, is it possible to scrog out the vert layout shown with four 3x3foot nets for better results than horizontal lst/scrog in a 6x3 canopy
 
nomofatum

nomofatum

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WTF are you asking vert questions if you only have 3 ft to work in? That is why you get no answers.

If there were a dislike button I would have hit it on all of verticalgrow's one word with emoticon answers though.

Doing a vert setup is flat out stupid in that short of a space. If you only have 3-4ft ceilings, go with SOG or SCROG if you must have fewer plants. Use more less intense light sources so the plants can get closer (more bud space) without burning. That means T5 or LEDs.

Also, when height is limited, get shorter wider pots, or get larger grow bags and roll the sides down.
 
Flowki

Flowki

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omg guys sorry for not being pro i mean if i was i wud not need ask questions ami rite

homeyz no u cant do vert with 3 foot plants get the 201 rizle my sniz g uuuunit



Thnx for the the reply. Hopefully we can put the immature hostility to rest now?.


If you can scrog or lst a horizontal 3x3 foot area how can you not scrog a 3x3 vert area?. I'm not being cocky, it's a genuine question. Max head height is a little more, for some wiggle room to play with.
 
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nomofatum

nomofatum

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I got a headache trying to read that crap. I don't understand Ebonics very well, can we stick with English?

In plain and clear words, tell us what dimensions you are working with and exactly where you expect he SOG/SCROG surface to be pointing.

Are you trying to say you want a SOG/SCROG that points outward instead of upward?
 
Flowki

Flowki

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nomofatum said:
I got a headache trying to read that crap. I don't understand Ebonics very well, can we stick with English?

In plain and clear words, tell us what dimensions you are working with and exactly where you expect he SOG/SCROG surface to be pointing.

Are you trying to say you want a SOG/SCROG that points outward instead of upward?
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Two plants that make up a vertical 3ft^2 scrog pointing toward the vertically hung light, continued in rows as shown above. Sorry, I thought that part was obvious. I simply want to know if that lay out is possible and more optimal than the horizontal lay out (thinking that increasing surface area does not automatically equate to more yield).

I am also trying to save you or anybody else the time of getting into room and setup details by asking to simply compare the two setups within the space confinements specified. I know this vertical layout I have asked about is less efficient than a circular vert layout for example, but that was and is still not the question I asked.

nomofatum said:
If there were a dislike button I would have hit it on all of verticalgrow's one word with emoticon answers though.
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I put him on ignore but ironically not much to block.
 
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mommasmoke

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U don't get it ur leaving to much info out even with the pictures there are to many factors left out how strong of a light is the vertical dimensions from top of pot or floor to ceiling but that drawing that my 5 yr old son can draw isn't going to cut it that's why the only answers u are getting are carcastic cause what u are tryn to ask is unanswerable ijs stop being lazy and type ur words don't take the easy way out and expect us to know what ur thinking
 
m4s73r

m4s73r

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Here let me make it a little more simple for you. Vertical setup doesnt require hoods. So its cheaper. Also. In the horizontal set up you wont get that many plants. You have too many in the pic too close together. At best in a 3x9 In a good sized pot, your only going to do 3 plants with a light for each one.

either way, you have to be able to get to the plants. So where is the door on this drawing?

Personally, in a 3x9x3 id do a 12/12 from rooted clones in a single no till bed and a auto drip system with LED's.
 
Flowki

Flowki

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I'm leaving info out because the small details are not something you need to know or are obvious, like box fans under the lights. The question, please correct me if I'm wrong was as simple as I could possibly make it. Read the OP again, look very carefully at the question.

Or go ahead, complicate things with your unstoppable needs to stamp your own ''well i would do this'' on it.. with your pre defined perfect conditions to back up your correct idea prior to basking in your superiority over another.
 
kiwipaulie

kiwipaulie

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Flowki said:
I'm leaving info out because the small details are not something you need to know or are obvious, like box fans under the lights. The question, please correct me if I'm wrong was as simple as I could possibly make it. Read the OP again, look very carefully at the question.

Or go ahead, complicate things with your unstoppable needs to stamp your own ''well i would do this'' on it.. with your pre defined perfect conditions to back up your correct idea prior to basking in your superiority over another.
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You come to a website asking for info and then say you're not prepared to give all the details of your grow. Some little things you are doing, may actually be impacting negatively.

Anyhow. Good luck on your growing adventures :)
 
Flowki

Flowki

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kiwipaulie said:
You come to a website asking for info and then say you're not prepared to give all the details
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When I called my local mechanic to ask what tires are best for winter months, he did not refuse an answer because I withheld the color of my fluffy dice. He likes dice.

It isn't a far fetched comparison.
 
m4s73r

m4s73r

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Well someone is a fucking tool and incurs my ire. So my ignorant friend. Cannibs isnt fucking tires, first off. And no, the answer is both your idea fucking suck and are poorly thought out. Its like someone whos never grown before acting like they know something. Excuse us for letting that bullshit slide and try and help you out. MY MOTHERFUCKING BAD.
Here's a thought, buy a light, get some seeds, grow something and when your shits all jacked up you can come back and maybe learn something.

"just answer the question, which of my idea suck fucking less".
 
kiwipaulie

kiwipaulie

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Flowki said:
When I called my local mechanic to ask what tires are best for winter months, he did not refuse an answer because I withheld the color of my fluffy dice. He likes dice.

It isn't a far fetched comparison.
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That's a pretty stupid comparison, as that question to a mechanic would open up more question for example where you planned to be using your car and the conditions it will be in. If he doesn't, then he is a shit mechanic.
 
Flowki

Flowki

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kiwipaulie said:
That's a pretty stupid comparison, as that question to a mechanic would open up more question for example where you planned to be using your car and the conditions it will be in. If he doesn't, then he is a shit mechanic.
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He knew the details as he lives in the same area, his professionalism meant a direct answer to a direct question. I'm getting the feeling that's the problem here.

If asked how to top a plant then why start querying about light type, pot size, soil and ph range. You'd either assume I've got that all figured out or if you suspect I don't, kindly point something out while actually answering the question asked. Optionally, don't point it out and only answer the question or else do the right thing and don't post.

Is their somebody who can avoid joining the lynch mod, knows what they are talking about and can answer the question directly?. I've been as polite as possible and would appreciate a polite response in either direction of the question.
 
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