Colorado, taxes, and the BM

leaffan

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This is an interesting read on what's going on in Colorado...

Colorado is missing $21.5 million in pot taxes.
Voters legalized retail marijuana (pot for everyone, not just medical patients) in 2012. And they were told the state wouldpull in $33.5 million from two new taxes in the first six months of 2014. It turns out, the projections were way off. Here's why.

Pot smokers are still buying on the black market: The state thought more people would migrate out of the black market. But only 60% of people who want pot in Colorado this year will buy it through legal channels, according to an estimate from the Marijuana Policy Group.

One big reason: Legal pot costs a lot more than illegal pot -- mostly because of taxes and fees.

Legal retail marijuana is taxed more than 27%, so it's easily cheaper on the black market.

And there's more than one way smokers are scoring pot without paying taxes.

Some are likely procuring it under the table from medical marijuana patients who buy it on the up-and-up and then resell it illegally -- depriving the state of tax revenue.

Plus, any Coloradan over 21 can grow up to six plants for personal use. If they are selling it on the black market, that's even more tax revenue the state's missing out on.

More are buying medical marijuana: Medical marijuana is taxed far less than recreational pot, to the tune of 2.9%. On average one ounce of medical marijuana costs $200, while the price of an ounce sold for recreational use is $220, but prices vary widely.

And while Coloradans must visit a doctor to get a medical marijuana card, that currently costs just $15. About 23% of the estimated marijuana users in Colorado (or 2% of the state population) have medical cards, according to the Marijuana Policy Group.

The state won't say how many more people got cards since retail pot was legalized, but the number is growing, according to state economist Larson Silbaugh.

Lawmakers were too optimistic in their revenue forecasts: State law requires the government to refund taxpayers if it collects more than expected.

Wanting to avoid returning money collected from retail marijuana sales, lawmakers made "rosier" projections, state lawmaker Jonathan Singer said recently.

To be fair, Colorado is in uncharted territory as the first state to legalize the drug for recreational purposes, and it's only been six months.

While lawmakers are examining the the tax structure, "it's too early to be worried," said state Rep. Dan Pabon.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/02/news/economy/marijuana-taxes-colorado/
 

CalyxCrusher

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HAH $15 to register. I'm speechless. Talk about emphasizing the crooked behavior in our system when it comes to becoming registered. And at just 2.9% tax for MMJ versus 27% for recreational, I hope we adopt a taxation system once we go legal that adopts the same measures in regards to the taxation of the 2 individual markets.
 

reasonevangelist

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"told you so..."

Trying to make it about money, was the WRONG approach.

This is about RIGHTS.

I am ENTITLED to my CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED Pursuit of Happiness (which includes cannabis), as long as i do not harm another or their property!

I can't believe the greedy tax-lords are bitching because they didn't realize most people can't (or won't) afford $20/g on a regular basis.

Essentially, all they did was trade one "black market" for another. The "white market" is just as much a criminal racket as the "black market." Maybe more!
 

Jackal69

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add money ..... sprinkle with greed ...... equals corrupt business that is worse than the black market, they legally can get away with ripping ppl off
 

MaryMaryMary

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60% of the market ain't bad for less than a year. This time last year they were receiving 0% of the market. They seriously expected to eliminate the black market entirely with 27% tax? Yeah ok.
yeah that's what i'm saying, when I read it was 60% i'm like uhh that's already majority of the market you have there lol
 

The Hippy

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They tried to control the " Peoples Plant " ....there's yur problem Vern....sooner or later the LP's here will learn this too....the hard way.....by loosing all their money to their greed....love it..........and I laughed and laughed and laughed
 

CalyxCrusher

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They tried to control the " Peoples Plant " ....there's yur problem Vern....sooner or later the LP's here will learn this too....the hard way.....by loosing all their money to their greed....love it..........and I laughed and laughed and laughed
An expert was asked his opinion on the matter, to which he had this to offer about their situation:

 

Diabolical666

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CNN,FOX, NBC, ABC is a terrible source for truth on shit. especially when they try to come off like the tax dollars were squandered away and they just actually projected wrong. FFS!
 

gb123

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"""""looks like its got a sssshhhorrrrbrbrbbrbrbbrbbrbrbrbr in it ..""""""

:lol: . That has always made me laugh.
 

CannaReview

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So if Colorado made 21Mil in legal weed taxes with 5 million people in the state how the fuck did the Canadian LP/Gov project Billions in revenue from 34 million Canadian?
 

UncleBuck

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i went into a dispensary for the first time ever yesterday in downtown denver.

they had 6 jars out, and 5 of them were worse than my worst harvest ever. all of them at $20 a gram, $60 an eighth.

that's not taxes causing that price, nor is it the regulatory compliance.

i just laughed on my way out and thanked them for making sure i will always have clients.
 
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