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visajoe1

visajoe1

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sounds like the same argument design as global warming. just saying. ( i.e. im right, you're wrong, its not open for debate). save the insults, it makes you look foolish. denying known and proven treatments to prevent diseases that kill or injure people because, in your words, "It's not possible to debunk it you idiot, it's not possible to prove that vaccines don't contribute to Autism." is pretty lame.

the nutshell of the vaccine argument, is their COULD be a risk. ok, great. what in life has zero risk? they (same scientific community) say cell phones cause cancer too, lol

not saying you cant believe any of that. just keep it to yourself and refrain from spreading nonsense in public as fact.
 
visajoe1

visajoe1

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Dude, life has variation. Big, small, light, dark, strong, weak, smart, stupid, etc. And sickly. That will never change. So, not every case is a f'n emergency. Since vaccines, all of the instances of everything you are pointing out is down. Yes, autism spectrum diagnosis is up recently, which begs the question why.

There is many more factors involved than just vaccines. So, for anyone to pin the tail on that donkey for a trend that is only a few decades old right now, doesnt pass the "smell test." If it was that cut and dry, we wouldnt be discussing it, right?

We dont argue the earth is flat or not. Unless you're Kryie Irving, rofl
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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visajoe1 said:
sounds like the same argument design as global warming. just saying. ( i.e. im right, you're wrong, its not open for debate). save the insults, it makes you look foolish. denying known and proven treatments to prevent diseases that kill or injure people because, in your words, "It's not possible to debunk it you idiot, it's not possible to prove that vaccines don't contribute to Autism." is pretty lame.

the nutshell of the vaccine argument, is their COULD be a risk. ok, great. what in life has zero risk? they (same scientific community) say cell phones cause cancer too, lol

not saying you cant believe any of that. just keep it to yourself and refrain from spreading nonsense in public as fact.
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It's all fun and games until the vaccine ruins your own life like it has to mine. So I respectfully disagree with your thoughts and opinion and the research you have posted. Because it's bullshit and I wake everyday and am reminded of it .
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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visajoe1 said:
sounds like the same argument design as global warming. just saying. ( i.e. im right, you're wrong, its not open for debate). save the insults, it makes you look foolish. denying known and proven treatments to prevent diseases that kill or injure people because, in your words, "It's not possible to debunk it you idiot, it's not possible to prove that vaccines don't contribute to Autism." is pretty lame.

the nutshell of the vaccine argument, is their COULD be a risk. ok, great. what in life has zero risk? they (same scientific community) say cell phones cause cancer too, lol

not saying you cant believe any of that. just keep it to yourself and refrain from spreading nonsense in public as fact.
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I'm not saying I'M right and you're wrong because this is my opinion, I'm saying it is right because this is based on fact.
I form my opinion based on said fact and not my own emotions on the subject, because it would be intellectually dishonest of me to do so.

Do you even logic?



There are no proven and tested vaccines, not a single one.
That's why you need top ups, because they don't work as intended.
The Polio vaccine actually killed more people than it has helped.

Polio cases dropped due to better health care, living standards and sanitation before the Polio vaccines were even invented.
This is a fact that your emotion and personal opinion will never change.
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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visajoe1 said:
So, for anyone to pin the tail on that donkey for a trend that is only a few decades old right now, doesnt pass the "smell test."
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Yet your government has a compensation program in place which is enshrined in law that has and does pay out millions of dollars to affected familys?
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Like I said go back and read my posts properly and take the time to understand them (especially the original one on Polio).

Then go look for the objective points made.

I didn't think it necessary to link every single citation and source as I would imagine that rationally thinking adults would take it as a given that I don't just make this shit up.
(I did the majority of the leg work for you, I'm not handing you it on a plate too)

Especially when it comes to the Polio vaccines.

There are far too many points in that original Polio vaccine post for me to make those points up.

Polio vaccine causing HIV and CJD are prime examples.
 
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visajoe1

visajoe1

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i question everything and everyone, dont take it personal guys. so, then, what do you guys suggest to solve the problems vaccines do?
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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visajoe1 said:
they (same scientific community) say cell phones cause cancer too, lol
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No they don't, ignorant people who don't understand the different types of radiation and media scare story's claim cell phones cause cancer.

The radiation emitted from mobile/cell phones is 'non-ionizing', non-ionizing means that it can't break chemical bonds and it can't cause mutation to the DNA molecules in our cells.

Non-ionizing raditation can't cause cancer, mobile/cell phones do not cause cancer.
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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If you your kid gets Polio and dies, touch shit that's life your kid dies of Polio, have another kid.

However if your kid gets Polio and survives (highly likely given the statistics) then congratulations, your kid is now immune to Polio.

This is how it works.
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Vast majority of Americans say the benefits outweigh the risks?

ROTFLMAO!

That's not objective it's the opinion of the vast majority of Americans.
Opinion that is spurned on by lobbyists and the pharmaceutical giants.
 
visajoe1

visajoe1

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The Yorkshireman said:
If you your kid gets Polio and dies, touch shit that's life your kid dies of Polio, have another kid.

However if your kid gets Polio and survives (highly likely given the statistics) then congratulations, your kid is now immune to Polio.

This is how it works.
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Again, feel free to do that with your child. Not knocking you. Just stop spewing your nonsense to others that its safer to not take proven steps to prevent catastrophic illness. Thats all I'm saying to you, specifically.

to the anti-vaccine "movement" i say the same, and good luck.
 
visajoe1

visajoe1

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The Yorkshireman said:
Vast majority of Americans say the benefits outweigh the risks?

ROTFLMAO!

That's not objective it's the opinion of the vast majority of Americans.
Opinion that is spurned on by lobbyists and the pharmaceutical giants.
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like i said. same argument design as global warming.

its a hot day. global warming!
its a rainy day. global warming!
its a cold day. global warming!

this is also known as self fulfilling prophecy.
 
visajoe1

visajoe1

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The Yorkshireman said:
Vast majority of Americans say the benefits outweigh the risks?

ROTFLMAO!

That's not objective it's the opinion of the vast majority of Americans.
Opinion that is spurned on by lobbyists and the pharmaceutical giants.
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you're funny. so, what is your opinion about the CBO report on trumpcare then? equally false, right? Because its a government agency spurned on by lobbyists...which would make you a trump supporter then? see what i did there 8-)

your arguments, sir, are based on emotion. not mine.
 
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