@Cascadian,,, label stuff,, ppfft.. I wrote the book on OCD.. LOL.. genetics?,, so your saying take the biggest and best of both male and female, before try and make my own seeds,, might be a bit tuff,, I only got12 beans, put 6 in the dirt last night,, I own my own house,, got lots of space to make another grow..... can I string a male along for months at 18/6 with no problems?