Clones on 12/12

Quick question guys, my plant is telling me to flower her (white hairs flowin') but I just took some clones and I am in the process of rooting them. Since my mama plant and the clones are on the same timer I dont know if I am able to put the clones on 12/12 timer with there mama or if it will be bad for my little clones...any advice?

They will all flower - clones included if put on 12/12

but you want to get some sort of a root structure going on before you start flowering the clones. So just wait till you've developed some good roots out of the clones. If you jump the gun then you're going to end up with a low yield.

22urbo said:

but you want to get some sort of a root structure going on before you start flowering the clones. So just wait till you've developed some good roots out of the clones. If you jump the gun then you're going to end up with a low yield.

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Im not trying to jump any guns, but you guys are right I should keep them on what light cycle before they have rooted?

Just keep them on the same light cycle as your mum until they have roots. I use perlite for cloning so I can't really tell you how to take care of your clones. I just make sure they have a significantly well established root ball (or system) before I transplant into soil. I took a few sativa clones I had and threw them into flower after they rooted and they're growing nicely again. I'm expecting some small buds on them within a week or so from now.

One thing I thought would be a good idea would be to veg out your mum until you think she's big enough, then take a few cuts and root em. Then you could flower your mum and let the clones veg out for a few weeks, then cut from them and flower them. I dunno just my 2 cents when it comes to a perpetual harvest without making too much work for yourself.

Darrens said:

Just keep them on the same light cycle as your mum until they have roots. I use perlite for cloning so I can't really tell you how to take care of your clones. I just make sure they have a significantly well established root ball (or system) before I transplant into soil. I took a few sativa clones I had and threw them into flower after they rooted and they're growing nicely again. I'm expecting some small buds on them within a week or so from now.

One thing I thought would be a good idea would be to veg out your mum until you think she's big enough, then take a few cuts and root em. Then you could flower your mum and let the clones veg out for a few weeks, then cut from them and flower them. I dunno just my 2 cents when it comes to a perpetual harvest without making too much work for yourself.

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Ya cloning is pretty scary because thats some buds you could have lost if you mess up. I had two small clones I tried before this set of clones and they died. Hopefully these clones will be ok because the mum is real nice...she seems to grow faster when I take clones from her...can this be true?

I can't give you a for sure set in stone answer to that. But to my knowledge, plants seem to shock after the first wave of cuttings you take. Then after that it almost seems that they're expecting it. I've cut 4-6 clones from a plant, and even 2 days later the other branches are growing out significantly.

Don't worry about not having success your first try. I had anticipated my harvests to be around now, if I would've had the success I was banking on the first week of December with cloning. Man was I largely mistaken. I was seriously about to just give up on cloning and sell all of my equipment to buddies because I was so frustrated with the consistency of my failure when it came to taking clones. Make sure you don't bank on things always working out, because that's when unexpected "emergencies" or problems will arise.

It's all about finding what works best for you just so you can get your feet wet and get a grip on your operation, if it is indeed an "operation". I tried water cloning, rockwool, rapid rooters, peat plugs, soil, etc. etc. I finally said you know what I'm just gonna try some perlite in some beer pong cups and so I tried it out, blah blah, and then 10 days later I check and there's little roots from the bottom of my cutting, man was that a happy day.

I have had 100% success since I started perlite cloning about 2.5-3 weeks ago (knock on wood please, haha). It's all about giving it enough time to establish a root system. If your cuts are taking longer than 2-3 weeks to root, you should probably start trying to fine tune it to get the best results, that is, if you're already getting close to 100% rooting, you should try to cut down on the time period it takes to establish those roots. I've gone to perlite and I don't plan on going back to anything else since. Different methods work for different people, just don't waste too much time on the same method if you aren't getting consistent results. It took me almost 2 full months to finally get good results. Don't give up, keep trying, you'll get it eventually.

Darrens said:

I can't give you a for sure set in stone answer to that. But to my knowledge, plants seem to shock after the first wave of cuttings you take. Then after that it almost seems that they're expecting it. I've cut 4-6 clones from a plant, and even 2 days later the other branches are growing out significantly.

Don't worry about not having success your first try. I had anticipated my harvests to be around now, if I would've had the success I was banking on the first week of December with cloning. Man was I largely mistaken. I was seriously about to just give up on cloning and sell all of my equipment to buddies because I was so frustrated with the consistency of my failure when it came to taking clones. Make sure you don't bank on things always working out, because that's when unexpected "emergencies" or problems will arise.

It's all about finding what works best for you just so you can get your feet wet and get a grip on your operation, if it is indeed an "operation". I tried water cloning, rockwool, rapid rooters, peat plugs, soil, etc. etc. I finally said you know what I'm just gonna try some perlite in some beer pong cups and so I tried it out, blah blah, and then 10 days later I check and there's little roots from the bottom of my cutting, man was that a happy day.

I have had 100% success since I started perlite cloning about 2.5-3 weeks ago (knock on wood please, haha). It's all about giving it enough time to establish a root system. If your cuts are taking longer than 2-3 weeks to root, you should probably start trying to fine tune it to get the best results, that is, if you're already getting close to 100% rooting, you should try to cut down on the time period it takes to establish those roots. I've gone to perlite and I don't plan on going back to anything else since. Different methods work for different people, just don't waste too much time on the same method if you aren't getting consistent results. It took me almost 2 full months to finally get good results. Don't give up, keep trying, you'll get it eventually.

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So what the perlite technique, would you like to give me a quick overview?

Definitely. As some people describe it (cloning), keep it stupid simple (KISS). I don't like to put more in then what I have to, and I found that the hard way, my overstocking on crap and spending wayyy too much money.

Essentially what I do is take a Solo Baric cup (I think that's what the blue and red cups that people use for beer pong are called), like a 16 oz cup. I poke some holes in the bottom of it, and now I even slice off the top inch of the cup (the lip area and a little more), just so I use less perlite. I think fill it with some perlite, and lightly water it, don't drown it, just a little bit of water, I've even used a spray bottle and it worked. I used a Rapid Rooters tray without the rooters insert in it, and then one of those heating pads and a Mondi Humidity dome (all this crap I bought when I was trying to do rapid rooter cloning and was convinced it was the best method, maybe for some but definitely not for me). What you'll do is fill the cups with perlite like i said, water em slightly, then take your cuts from the mother plant. I found that dipping it in water for like at least 20 seconds works nicely, then I will take a sharp knife or razor and lightly scrape off some of the stem near where I cut the clone. Don't go overboard with that though, I also have put a slight cut down the center of the stem starting where I actually made the cut, this doesn't have to be extreme, just a slight bit. I got that idea from Al B Fuct, and it seems to work. Then I'll redip it in the water for a second, and I have been using Schultz Take Root (you can buy it in Walmart or Ace Hardware, I had ordered it from Ace because walmart was out of it in December when I needed it.) Just dip it in the Schultz Take Root powder enough so that where you scraped the stem is covered. Then I use the other end of a Sharpee to stab a hole in the perlite large enough to put the cutting into. Then I'll just like push the perlite around to make sure the cutting is firmly seated in there and what not. Then I label the cup on the side and put a date on it, put it in the tray, spritz the cuts maybe once with some water, and then I replace the humidity dome on there. The holes on the bottom of the cups are so you can water the tray you put the cups in and then the holes allow water to pass thru and the perlite absorbs(?) it.

There are all kinds of different methods to doing the perlite cloning I just found this method worked for me since I had all the crap I needed to follow through with it. Some people don't use rooting hormone, I prefer to just because it's given me success so far so why stop if it works. I've had all the clones I've taken so far root on me 100% in the perlite, within a time frame of 7-14 days maybe a little longer. But don't give up on it.

One other thing, some people use pH'd water or distilled water. I saw on another tutorial for perlite cloning to just use tap water, and so that's what I've been using. Seems to work for me so far.

Best bet is to try several cloning techniques simultaneously that way you can see which one works fastest, most reliably, etc.

Let me know if you have any other questions and hopefully my description is clear enough to understand, as I'm not baked right now. Haha.

Well I have just used rockwool in a humidity dome (used rooting gel during the cutting) and as you saw in the other post I wrote they are looking strait so ill keep with the updates..