China declares the war is on, and troops deployed to Mexican border

Fogdog said:

Guess what?

I have no idea what or who you are talking about.

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Of course you don't you call yourself Fogdog.....

ChefKimbo said:

Of course you don't you call yourself Fogdog.....

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LOL

Point taken

Let me guess. You are saying that the people who are fleeing violence in Central America are entitled to legal entry into the US because they live in the lands arbitrarily named after a Portuguese sailor?

I'm not arguing against giving asylum to people who leave Central America because they are threatened with murder by MS13, I'm just wondering if you feel that everybody living in the Americas -- north and south are entitled to legal status in the US.

Fogdog said:

I'm against calling Bernie a progressive when all he's done after 12 years as Senator is get a few solar water heaters installed on fed buildings. Senators hold a powerful office but you are happy with a few solar water heaters. You call that progress. I think we should hold our Senators to higher standards than that.

What solutions has Sanders ever managed to bring into law?

His healthcare plan that you ballyhooed didn't go anywhere either. Then again, it was a poorly written bill. I don't call that progress either.

Do you think progressive is just a label? I think it should mean somebody who makes progress.

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Thats not fair. Bernie is very supportive of the second amendment. He islo very rich, and getting richer, seemingly at public expense, which is always a progressive value.

And finally, he pays a lot of lip service to feigning support for minority rights, while underming legislation that would accomplish it..

How dare you say he isn't progressive.

greg nr said:

Thats not fair. Bernie is very supportive of the second amendment. He islo very rich, and getting richer, seemingly at public expense, which is always a progressive value.

And finally, he pays a lot of lip service to feigning support for minority rights, while underming legislation that would accomplish it..

How dare you say he isn't progressive.

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Just call me fog unfair dog

Abiqua said:

Hmmm...China imports nearly 37% of their soybeans from us, Brazil cannot supply that demand if China cuts it and Argentina, 3rd in the world in production, has a huge shortage going on this harvest season. You cant scale farms ups quick enough...
We grow enough food to export, China doesnt, that fact alone proves what brainless hyperbole, some are offering here.
Tariffs have all been mainly on fluff items.

Most of accounts here I am guessing are of individuals fronting little ticky tacky grow related companies, that are going to have their subsidized ride ended.

Lol

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So, Trump can't get Putin (exxon) nor the Saudi's to cut Oil to China?

Last one with Oil wins!

Fogdog said:

Thank for the lecture on what nobody asked.

Tariffs are soundly rebuked as tools for balancing trade. You didn't ask but I figured you'd want to know.

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Balancing trade Lol....375 billion reasons why your wrong, i mean Wong.

Abiqua said:

Balancing trade Lol....375 billion reasons why your wrong, i mean Wong.

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the trade deficit is worse under trump than it ever was under obama or clinton

Anyone ever consider that tRUmp is under orders from his boss Putin to wreck the American economy?

captainmorgan said:

Anyone ever consider that tRUmp is under orders from his boss Putin to wreck the American economy?

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yep

not only that, the entire GOP has been compromised too. every single one of them quietly blackmailed into submission.

captainmorgan said:

Anyone ever consider that tRUmp is under orders from his boss Putin to wreck the American economy?

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Putin was an impressionable young man when Russia and China stopped their war and joined to focus on the west.

Lesson learned for the US, foxholes work.

Fogdog said:

I'm against calling Bernie a progressive when all he's done after 12 years as Senator is get a few solar water heaters installed on fed buildings. Senators hold a powerful office but you are happy with a few solar water heaters. You call that progress. I think we should hold our Senators to higher standards than that.

What solutions has Sanders ever managed to bring into law?

His healthcare plan that you ballyhooed didn't go anywhere either. Then again, it was a poorly written bill. I don't call that progress either.

Do you think progressive is just a label? I think it should mean somebody who makes progress.

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You aren't for anyone who makes progress.

Just constantly against.

It's rather telling.

greg nr said:

Thats not fair. Bernie is very supportive of the second amendment. He islo very rich, and getting richer, seemingly at public expense, which is always a progressive value.

And finally, he pays a lot of lip service to feigning support for minority rights, while underming legislation that would accomplish it..

How dare you say he isn't progressive.

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Very rich?! You must be joking.

Who are you for?

ttystikk said:

You aren't for anyone who makes progress.

Just constantly against.

It's rather telling.

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12 years in the senate and all to show for it are some solar water heaters on fed buildings. That's a pretty low standard. Compare water heates to the establishment of the ACA and steering the economy through Bush's recession. Compare defending the ACA and Medicaid from the GOP ax as progress over Bernie's water heaters.

Fogdog said:

12 years in the senate and all to show for it are some solar water heaters on fed buildings. That's a pretty low standard. Compare water heates to the establishment of the ACA and steering the economy through Bush's recession. Compare defending the ACA and Medicaid from the GOP ax as progress over Bernie's water heaters.

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Still hating.

You'll get ulcers.

What are you so afraid of?

ttystikk said:

Still hating.

You'll get ulcers.

What are you so afraid of?

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It's you who are obsessing and demanding people decide NOW, almost 2 1/2 years ahead of the election. What's wrong with waiting until the debates are over and we have time to get to know the field. Oh, I get it, you are afraid that the people won't choose Bernie. Well it's up to Bernie to convince the majority of Democrats to vote for him. His performance yesterday in Mississippi bodes ill for him if that's the case. He's a very divisive leader.

You know, if there is a large sweep of Democratic wins in the fall, Bernie's "Democrats are failing" speech is going to need a tune up.

How about if he promises a solar water heater for 30% of all households? He needs to add some things to his pitch along with other free stuff he's been promising all along. Like the Ronco sales pitch, "but wait there's more!:

Fogdog said:

It's you who are obsessing and demanding people decide NOW, almost 2 1/2 years ahead of the election. What's wrong with waiting until the debates are over and we have time to get to know the field. Oh, I get it, you are afraid that the people won't choose Bernie. Well it's up to Bernie to convince the majority of Democrats to vote for him. His performance yesterday in Mississippi bode ill for him. He's a very divisive leader.

You know, if there is a large sweep of Democratic wins in the fall, Bernie's "Democrats are failing" speech is going to need a tune up.

How about if he promises a solar water heater for 30% of all households? He needs to add some things to his pitch along with other free stuff he's been promising all along. Like the Ronco sales pitch, "but wait there's more!:

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Meltdown much? Lol

ttystikk said:

Meltdown much? Lol

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Not at all.

I'm willing to wait a couple of years before making up my mind about my choice of a candidate. It's you who is obsessing on choosing Bernie now. Your fear is palpable.

How about quoting another meaningless opinion poll. Maybe that will settle your nerves.

Fogdog said:

Not at all.

I'm willing to wait a couple of years before making up my mind about my choice of a candidate. It's you who is obsessing on choosing Bernie now. Your fear is palpable.

How about quoting another meaningless opinion poll. Maybe that will settle your nerves.

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I'm not sure how many times I have to repeat for your senility that I'll vote for anyone who shows themselves to be a better choice than Bernie.

ttystikk said:

I'm not sure how many times I have to repeat for your senility that I'll vote for anyone who shows themselves to be a better choice than Bernie.

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That's a broad field.

captainmorgan said:

Anyone ever consider that tRUmp is under orders from his boss Putin to wreck the American economy?

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Far out y'all are easy to fool, you're more insane than ever. Fucking cuck.